Thread: Extremely long or infinite LDs

You guys can say what you want--it's not 'false memories' it's just skewed perception. Obviously it's not TRUE, but it FEELS that way because your perception of time is messed up.

I'd also like to point out that this happens ALL THE TIME in REAL LIFE. Have you ever sat around doing nothing after a test or something in school? Five minutes can feel like hours. It's just activating the change with a suggestion.

I heard a dr of LDs managed to have a 2 year one... I also found out that the guitarist from the Mars Volta, his best friend went into a coma and ended up going insane after a long time of LDs and ran off the building... RIP. Televators in his memory.

Went insane from LDs? Did he think he was in an LD when he jumped?

Originally Posted by Kabloom

I heard a dr of LDs managed to have a 2 year one... I also found out that the guitarist from the Mars Volta, his best friend went into a coma and ended up going insane after a long time of LDs and ran off the building... RIP. Televators in his memory.

Oh my God. Please tell me you have a source we can look to to understand what happened. *hits up Wikipedia*

EDIT: Did a little searching, but with little to no details. Was the friend's name Jeremy, or possibly Jimmy? Please point us at something that gives more details.... I've never heard of LDing causing problems before, so I NEED to know if this might invalidate my statements that LDing is perfectly harmless.

EDIT2: I looked up info on the singer, not the guitarist. XD Well, I found this on the band's Wikipedia page:

"...De-Loused [in the Comatorium] was a unified work of speculative fiction telling the first-person story of someone in a drug-induced coma, battling the evil side of his mind. Though lyrically obscure, The Mars Volta stated in interviews that the album's protagonist is based on their late friend Julio Venegas, or "Cerpin Taxt", who was in a coma for several years. When he woke up, he jumped from the Mesa Street overpass onto Interstate-10 in El Paso during afternoon rush-hour traffic. Venegas' death was also referenced in the At the Drive-In song "Ebroglio" from their album Acrobatic Tenement."

Julio Venegas' Wikipedia page redirects to the album's 'Pedia page, which offers no further details on the person himself. Also, no mention of lucid dreams here, just that he was in a coma for several years.

I've found some people online commenting on a song's meaning saying that he was in ESP, nothing about lucid dreams. Here's a reiteration of the Wikipedia details. And, lastly, here's the storybook version of De-Loused at the Comatorium. I've skimmed it, and yet I see nothing of lucid dreams, just those visions he had.

I'm not convinced Kabloom either meant "LDs" or just didn't know it wasn't.

*shuts off the alarm*

Ok... Urm... 0.o I guess my brother lied lmao...

Been googling and I have found some interesting stuff. I don't know how reliable the source is but it's sure good for decent conversation.

"Subject: 1.5. How long do dreams last?

A. REM sleep periods, and therefore dreams, last typically in the range of 5 to 45 minutes (cf. section 6). Often, the subjective time spent in a dream is much longer. One possible explanation for this time-stretch effect is that dreams are combined from pieces (see preceding paragraph) that have their own different setting in time. You first dream of something that occurred a year ago, then - following - of something that occurred just recently, mix them up a bit and are left with the remembrance of a dream that lasted a year.

But experiments suggest that dreamed actions run in "real time" - what you do in your dream takes exactly this time to dream. With external influences like the radio running in the morning, you have both the real time in which you hear something and - sometimes - the feeling that it lasted considerably longer. Anyway, time is one of the perceptions that are heavily distorted in dreams."

source: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/dreams-faq/part1/

Could it be possible that when people are having these dreams that last for weeks and even months their mind is only filling in the gaps? No offence to LiveInTheDream but, I don't know anyone who could fill out conversations and detail as well as you did in the description of that dream. I think that you may have just had some separate dreams that lasted for a while and your mind filled in the blanks with the major details of the dream.

One man Robert Monroe claimed to have a lucid dream that lasted 100 years. There is no way this can be proven.
I'm not saying he lied but the thing is, it's how long you feel that it was rather then how long you have actually spent in the dream.
If it is possible why the hell would you even want a 100 year lucid dream? Imagine how disoriented you'd be when you finally woke up.

I agree. The very longest I'd like to be in a LD is a week, MAYBE a month.

I've got a little info from Dr. Stephen LaBerge on lucid dreams tending to last as long to the oneironaut as their dreaming experience takes to others watching them sleep, as opposed to regular dreams which can vary in perceived/actual length.

In "Lucid Dreaming" by Stephen LaBerge, Ph.D., pages 75-78 are dedicated to "Dream Time", in which LaBerge concludes that, from a study they (him and his colleagues) conducted with a woman named "Beverly," "estimated time in dreams seems very nearly equal to clock time - at least for lucid dreams." (p.77, LaBerge) He went on to explain why things happening in lucid dreams aren't instantaneous, that our brains do have a finite amount of time required to process information, even the answers to obvious questions, and therefore our dreaming minds must take time to process our wishes.

Thought you'd all like to know a little bit on that. There's more in the book to support his case, as well as more information on experiments they'd conducted with lucid dreaming, but I'd rather not type more up at the moment.