Thread: Queen Zukin's Dream Journal

End of Day 16

It looks as though 11pm-4am is my new trouble zone, it's still not very difficult but it exists. Both 2am and 6am naps went as expected.

I went to the beach today between my 10am nap and my 2pm nap. Something that I've been noticing more often is more frequent amnesia after waking...About 2/3 of the naps I woke up from I forgot that I even took. If anyone has any suggestions about that I would really love to hear them.

My 6pm nap was the WTF-er for today. I wanted to try to WILD into a dream. I didn't last very long and eventually lost consciousness anyways but when I woke up I was no longer in my bed. I was sitting in the diningroom in an upturned chair in the middle of the room. I had knives in my right hand and paper towel's in my left. I had no idea how I got there...

I was able to dream at my 10pm nap. I dreamed that I was at my grandmother's house. I was working outside and trying to watch my dog because next to us was a military zone. My dog catches sight of a peacock and corners it. He takes a bite into its wing and I try to free the peacock.

Right now it's really tempting to go back to monophasic sleep, which is silly because I'm so far out in the trial. I'm probably just feeling extra tired because of the 'wtf-oversleep' I had today. Today was ok, I was a little more tired than I was yesterday.

"My 6pm nap was the WTF-er for today. I wanted to try to WILD into a dream. I didn't last very long and eventually lost consciousness anyways but when I woke up I was no longer in my bed. I was sitting in the diningroom in an upturned chair in the middle of the room. I had knives in my right hand and paper towel's in my left. I had no idea how I got there..."

Ok, I don't want to sound like a worrywart again, but, do you mind if the next time you try this I'm over? I have two reasons.

1. I want to make sure that knife doesn't end up in yourself somehow.

2. I want to videotape this, lol. Wtf happened? A knife in one hand and paper towels in the other? Sounds like a great day. ;D

~Joe

My body does pretty accurate job in mantaining the current schedule. Easy four naps during the day, then it's get a bit harder in the night, but I make it to both naps, only to fall asleep again for a 7th nap and an oversleep. Then the very next nap seems always be the only REM I remember. It's like 1,5h core + 6 naps.. Not quite Uberman, I'd rather call it Lamerman.

I'm going for a last push to make the final adjustment in next few days. I know I have the means to get through the sleep deprivation symptoms at nights, but I just have been lacking the discipline and willpower to make it. I guess I thought I could stop using them after the first week.

I'm thinking about going to Everyman. The midnight - 4am block is fucking murder. Maybe if I can adapt to everyman then I'll eventually cut out the core sleep if I want. I'll post back later with my new nap times.

So for now I plan to have my core at Midnight - 3am, with 20 minute naps at 8am, 1pm, and 6pm. I'm still thinking about going back to monophasic, trying to adapt has been so stressful. The main thing I don't to give up is that chunk of time around 7am - noon. I've never been an early riser so being able to be up that early has been such an acheivement to me.

I'd like some feedback...try to stay on uberman, attempt everyman (should be easy going from uberman to everyman), or go monophasic?

Well you've tried long enough imo, going monophasic certainly isn't bad option to reset the rhytms and clear all the sleep-dep. But if you think you can pull off adjusting to everyman, go for it by all means. You could try adjusting to Everyman for few days and then re-evaluate how you feel.

Yep I've decided to do everyman for the next few days. If I am able to adapt I'm probably going to make this my permanent schedule. When I was still doing uberman I was planning on switching to everyman near the end of the summer anyways.

Ok, you know me, you know my opinions on this whole altering sleep thing.

But if there's nothing I hate worse it's a quitter. Don't go back to monophasic sleeping until you've stuck it to yourself that you are in control of yourself.(does that even make sense? I don't know...)

Stick with it as long as you want to, and when you're finally done, and you can say "Ok, I've done it, I've tried it, I've got my opinions on it. All of the experience is complete, and I am done with this," and mean it, then I'd think it is a fine time to take a good long nap.

Just wait until I get back from camp before you let yourself go monophasic again, ok?

~Joe

Originally Posted by XT-421

Ok, you know me, you know my opinions on this whole altering sleep thing.

But if there's nothing I hate worse it's a quitter. Don't go back to monophasic sleeping until you've stuck it to yourself that you are in control of yourself.(does that even make sense? I don't know...)

Stick with it as long as you want to, and when you're finally done, and you can say "Ok, I've done it, I've tried it, I've got my opinions on it. All of the experience is complete, and I am done with this," and mean it, then I'd think it is a fine time to take a good long nap.

Just wait until I get back from camp before you let yourself go monophasic again, ok?

~Joe

I've already told you that I'm going to do Everyman, not monophasic. I've learned a lot from Uberman: self discipline, what a micronap feels like, what it feels like to dream while awake, that bizarre feeling the instant you accidentally lose consciousness, how to feel like shit 24/7 and still be forced to find the motivation to keep going, and how cruel some people can be. I'm mostly converting to Everyman as an investment on my sanity at this point, the adaptation phase is extremely psychologically painful. If I'm going to attempt Uberman again I need to do it on a clean slate - 17 days in and not adapted is not a good sign. I think if I tried it again I could probably get it right, but I really need to wait awhile.

On a less serious note, I was talking to my mother about polyphasic sleeping. She sleeps about 6 hours a night, and has about an hour and a half long nap midday. I told her that she was a biphasic sleeper, and she responded "I am not a biphasic sleeper!"

Mmm having that core nap last night felt so nice! When I woke up I was of course real sleepy, but it was a different kind of sleepiness than I was used to. It was like a 'drunk with sleep' sleepiness. This kind of sleepiness actually felt real nice, because I was used to the sleep-deprived tiredness. I know I had some dreams but I didn't write them down.

I accidentally woke up at about 17 minutes into my nap and then fell back asleep again, so I remembered 2 dreams.

Swinging Thing

In my first dream some people had made a contraption that was like a giant shopping cart swinging in the air. The purpose was to ride in it. I got in the giant metal cage and it swung around fast. I accidentally fell asleep inside the giant swinging shopping cart and awoke in another dream. In the dream I was crawling through a really large pipe, and I knew that I was dreaming. I looked at the end of the pipe and hoped that nothing scary was waiting for me on the other side. One of my friends appeared and greeted me.

Scavenger Hunt

In my other dream, I was at school. I was wearing a green top, a green skirt, and a gray jacket. A guy was hitting on me and I found this scene very strange so I attempted to do a reality check but before I could a giant monster truck ripped through the back wall and nailed some innocent kid. We were all standing around looking at what happened and the kid that got hit manages to get out from underneath the truck without a scratch. Some students take pictures. I turned around and the classroom no longer existed. Instead there was a large stream/tiny river running through a muddy landscape. A teacher from my freshmen year was there, and she was telling us that we were going to do a scavenger hunt. The scavenger hunt lead us to odd places, like inside lockers and in other teacher's rooms. In one of the hints I was in the elementary school and a little girl with crazy hair was talking to me. She helped me find the locker I was looking for. Inside the locker was a few jackets of mine and some taco shells.

Like I expected, I adapted pretty quickly to the Everyman schedule. The only time I'm sleepy is an hour before my core nap and an hour after it. I'm not going to update my dream journal like I used to on a bulk day basis, rather I'm going to update it whenever I remember a dream. One of the things I've noticed since switching to Everyman is that I no longer get HH before I fall asleep. When I was doing Uberman I would get very heavy HH, now I get almost none. Also, my sleep amnesia seems to be completely gone !

4 Wheeler Rollercoaster

I was at Cedar Point waiting for my friend to meet me there. A lot of people were rushing by, and I recognized a lot of people that I knew. I sat on a cement staircase waiting for my friend. A guy was offering rides in his roller coaster but I didn't feel like doing anything yet.

I eventually decided to walk around the park, and enough walking lead me to my grandparent's house. My grandfather was outside with his 4 wheeler. A group of people were standing around and he was showing them his rollercoaster rides. I stood with the group for a few minutes before I realized that I was missing one of my naps!

I ran inside the house to find somewhere to sleep and found my bedroom. I stood there for a minute, and thought this is very strange...How did I get here? I did a reality check and at first I had 5 fingers but then they morphed into 8. I stood there for a moment thinking about how cool it was that I had a separate body on the physical plane. I looked at my hands to try to stabilize the dream a bit more, and looked away. I looked back at my hands and looked away again but I was becoming captivated by my hands. Deep detail was forming around me.

I woke up and noticed that I had only been sleeping for 15 minutes of my 25 minute nap.

I gave up the attampt after another oversleep, especially considering the manner of it: I just convinced myself somehow that is'ts okay to go to sleep now, and I was so tired that it worked. I'm going to re-attempt at some point during fall. It just was so clear to me that I wasn't succeeding with the amount of oversleeps I had.

Originally Posted by Jakro

I gave up the attampt after another oversleep, especially considering the manner of it: I just convinced myself somehow that is'ts okay to go to sleep now, and I was so tired that it worked. I'm going to re-attempt at some point during fall. It just was so clear to me that I wasn't succeeding with the amount of oversleeps I had.

That's sad to hear, but I definitely understand. I might try again next summer.

Crazy Bus

I was in a bus that went through crazy parts of the city. The people in the bus were really jacked up. There was a guy who was suicidal and kept leaving his belongings on the bus, and another guy who after he got out stood in front of the bus so it couldn't proceed. The bus had to take a shortcut through someone's lawn. I remember something about a railroad too.

I'll probably re-attempt in month or so. I know you're supposed to take a couple of months break between attempts but I still don't feel like putting it too much back as adaptation gets harder later the year it is. I'll be timing it so that I have someone there to help me through the adaptation. On the other hand, part of me wants to re-attempt now that I don't feel tired.. (I slept 14 hours straight after I decided to give up).

Originally Posted by Jakro

I'll probably re-attempt in month or so. I know you're supposed to take a couple of months break between attempts but I still don't feel like putting it too much back as adaptation gets harder later the year it is. I'll be timing it so that I have someone there to help me through the adaptation. On the other hand, part of me wants to re-attempt now that I don't feel tired.. (I slept 14 hours straight after I decided to give up).

Good luck and remember to keep me posted. I'm still doing Everyman, it's nice because my mind already adapted to having REM in a 25 minute nap but I think I might make my naps shorter because I think on the 25 minute mark my brain is about to go into slow-wave again. I plan on taking a video camera and filming when I sleep so I can see when I go into REM (why not? ).

Depolarization

I was in college and I was driving through a parking lot. A giant blue sign said DEPOLARIZATION and pointed to the far end of the parking lot. I had the easiest schedule, to the point where I was considering adding more classes. There were a lot of wild animals running through campus like sheep and shit. I'm feeling kind of lazy so I'm not going to go into great depth like normal but my best friend got mad at me for some reason, and then I went for a walk and saw bunnies.

Spies on a Bus

My wife and I (I was a man in the dream) were spies. I don't remember too much of this dream other than one of the last scenes, where a bus came. We were trying to fit a mega load of people on the bus and it wasn't working. It was for a scene in a movie that we were trying to shoot. I also remember something about slowing down time. That was pretty cool.

Alright, I finally caught up.

I'm not entirely familiar with everyman. Is it less demanding than uberman?

I also remember something about slowing down time. That was pretty cool.

Awesome! I've had 2 of these dreams pretty recently. It was all after I watched this Japanese movie, Returner.

Originally Posted by XeL

Alright, I finally caught up.

I'm not entirely familiar with everyman. Is it less demanding than uberman?



Awesome! I've had 2 of these dreams pretty recently. It was all after I watched this Japanese movie, Returner.

Yes, it's a lot less demanding and a lot easier on my schedule seeing as I don't have to take a nap every 4 hours. The only issue is that it's still not entirely compatible with monophasers. I'm going on a trip with my friends in about a week and I don't know how I'm going to be able to stay on Everyman without waking them up at 3am every morning and trying to get all of my naps in.

Not in my car!

I was with Shane Dawson and we were making a movie, lol. I talked to my sister for a while about something, and went downstairs and talked to my mom. We were having a shortage of food and she burned a tray of something. I told mom that I was going out.

[missing time]

I'm in the car with my friend who I know online. He says that he wants to go and pick up some weed. We drive to a strip of businesses. On the sidewalk of the casino were either a lot of prostitutes or just advertising for their business. They would ask you about coming inside the casino and give you a little token. But this wasn't the casino that we were to be visiting. He drove further down the road and we were in an outdoor casino. He was playing a game where you roll a di and have to get the right number. He told me that he needed to pretend like his family was playing with him. I'm uninterested.

Two large porcupines come stumbling down the hill next to us. Everyone turns around and looks at them. The two porcupines start screaming before turning into little children. The manager rushes to the two little children and instead of him ushering them out of the casino area, he teaches them to gamble.

After he got the weed, his dad got in the car with us. His dad said that he needed to pick up some beer (in the dream beer was really illegal or something) and I was strongly against it seeing as I already had weed in the car.

I keep forgetting to post back here! I've found that I'm continuously waking up about 15-17 minutes through my nap and remembering a dream. I didn't write down the dream I had this time so I forgot it, but I'll probably remember it later in the day. After my 1pm nap today I'm thinking about reducing my naps to 18 minutes and seeing if anything changes.

I have some bad news though. I will most likely have to end my polyphasic sleep schedule either August 1st or about a week after that. On August first I'm going on a trip with my friends and we will have to share a hotel room. I doubt that they will enjoy being woken at 3am . A little more than a week later after August 1st I'm getting my wisdom teeth removed...I'd prefer to sleep away the pain rather than stay awake during it. However I'm probably never going to be a true monophaser again. I'll probably be slightly everyman or biphasic.

I'll try to make another update later today if I remember that dream I had.

This is getting really strange. I never feel tired anymore. I'm tempted to always skip my naps because I'm not tired enough to take them (but if I try I can fall asleep). I'm not really remembering dreams from my naps anymore, so I took my video camera and recorded one of my naps so I could see when I went into REM. I didn't. I can see why I might not have attained REM though. My nap was pushed off an hour and I ate a big meal before it, so it could have an effect. I'll do another test tomorrow to verify.

My dream from my core nap isn't clear. I only remember a lot of girls screaming at the top of their lungs.

Hmm I dreamed during my 8am nap.

Big Ass Bass

I was in the basement and I looked out my window. Through the snowfall I saw a tornado! Eeeek! Later after the tornado was gone I went outside and the yard was flooded. My mom and my dog were sitting next to a large puddle. I came over there and sat next to them, and saw what they were looking at. In the water was a really large bass. I touched my fingers to the water and the bass came and stuck its mouth out. It opened its mouth and revealed a full set of razor sharp teeth!

Queen Ann's Lace

I was staying in a cabin with a girl and a boy about my age. The guy didn't really care what we were doing, he just minded his own business and listened to music. The girl was eccentric and liked to shower with her clothes on.

The next day we went for a walk outside in the fields. There were many different types of wildflowers and many different color variations of Queen Ann's Lace. I decided that I was going to make a bouquet of Queen Ann's Lace. I would have 3 if each different color. So far there was orange, purple, yellow, and white.

We stopped at the edge of the path and the girl asked me if I saw anyone inside the house across the busy street. The windows were tinted but I didn't think I saw anyone. She told me that we were going to go on another trail, but this one was slightly more dangerous. To get to the trail we had to hide inside a small building until the coast was clear.

We kept walking down the roadless path until we reached a large white shed covered in vines. She opened the door and we walked inside. There was a long hall and many doors on each side. At the far end of the hall was the door out. She told me that a family lived here. She said that I needed to stay inside the shed while she made sure that the coast was clear.

She left the large shed and I heard the family in the room next to me. The light shone a fluorescent blue as I waited for her to return. My phone rang. On the other end was the shadey voice of a man. He said something like this - 'This is what you get for hiding in the shed.' I didn't understand what he meant at first but then I sort of realized. The shed was paid and owned by a company and people were illegally living in it.

I turned back around and a few of the doors were open. The place was a mess.

"I need to clean up real badly," a man says.

"I'm pretty good at cleaning, I'll do it for you," I offer.

"I wouldn't have anything to pay you with but a few pennies," The man replies.

I get another phone call, and it's an agency that wants me to design a stepchart for a new DDR song. I go back to the cabin and finish it up.

A few days later in the dream I am mailed a CD. The CD contains my stepchart and the song formatted to the DDR screen so that I can test the flow. The song is harder than I intended it to be.

Well apparently, my friend from another forum got in an accident and was in a wheelchair. He also needed to test the song. He uploaded a video of him passing the DDR song with an 88%...What?! He's in a wheelchair for christ's sake and I can't even pass it!

While I'm testing the video game, ads appear occasionally. One of the ads had a man in a pub drinking beer. He was on a polyphasic schedule and trying to stay awake. I thought it was interesting how they had ads about that now.

The doorbell rang and I greeted my visitor. He told me that he was going to take me home from the cabin. He was a guy I knew that never really talked to me much because he was shy.

We got in the car. It was morning and dew was still on the windows. He told me that he saw my friend's video but he thought that I still did a good job. He dropped me off at my house and walked me to the door. I told him about the polyphasic ad I saw on the television.

"Oh really? That's cool but I'm really not into that anymore," He said cooly. Wait...Jakro? I was going to ask him who he was but he was already walking away...

It's Already Halloween?

I was getting a costume together for Halloween, and in the end I was a cat. My costume was pretty sucky and I didn't even get a chance to do my makeup. Later I was wondering how it was Halloween already, and how I'm getting a bit too old for this and also that I didn't have anyone to go with.