Originally Posted by tofur
hey guys!
Brand new here, I'm a beginner lucid dreamer with only 1 fully lucid dream under my belt. What drove me to register and post this was the method by which that lonesome magnificent LD came to be for me. I had been doing vipassana meditation for a week or 2 for at least 45 minutes a day leading up to it, and became spontaneously lucid with no intention of LD'ing at all. Didn't even know LD's were possible.
Now more specifically what I was doing was Shinzen Youngs "5 ways to know yourself". He has a free ebook explaining it all you can read at "shinzen.org" under 'articles'. Anyway, the second way is the way of the physical senses, and it's pretty much exactly what ADA seems to be. You focus out, on different senses, and on all of them at the same time. I wasn't even doing this way all the time, I spent a good chunk of time focusing inwardly.
this is the first paragraph on the second way:
"In this approach, the basic idea is to anchor yourself in the present moment by focusing on external sight, external sound and physical (i.e., non-emotional) body sensations. This is based on a practice commonly given to new monks in Zen temples, allowing them to remain in a meditative state while effectively performing their daily tasks." "It is a sustained and systematic apparatus designed to permanently increase your base level of concentration, sensory clarity and equanimity.
The ultimate aim is to experience oneness with the outside world."
he goes on to describe how you can go from focusing on just one sense to floating between all of them:
"When you work individually, you increase concentration, clarity, and equanimity in just one element for a while. Because you’re working with just that one element at a time, it may be relatively easy to do. After doing that, when you back up and work with all of the elements, the whole system is likely to function in a smoother, more effective, and more satisfying manner because each element has been tuned up individually."
So I'm going to keep up the meditation and just continue the awareness through the day ADA style as much as possible, with some mantras/intention setting thrown in. I'm going to do WBTB paired with SSILD as well (seems like basically the same thing but in a cycle format tweaked for immediate induction), dream journal (I've been doing that for a little bit now, took Laberges advice and focused on dream recall first in the LD journey, have like 20 dreams recorded) and see what happens. I'll report back with success.
Great stuff and Welcome to Dreamviews!!
Yeah, ADA is basically just compiled information written in a way that speaks to Lucid Dreamers. Buddhist Monks have been doing things very similar to ADA for years and years. This technique, basically, just cuts out some of the spiritual parts of their practices and focuses more on enhancing the recreational dreaming experience, recall, and awareness in both worlds (dream world and waking life). Reading and getting into the many practices of those Monks can only help with your dreaming experience. I'm glad to see you are enjoying the practice so far. Just stay positive and keep it going. Those lucid dreams will start popping up all over the place !
Yeah, Laberge nailed it when it comes to practicing recall first. Building dream recall is one of the most important aspects for beginners and veterans alike. Not only does recall help you remember more dreams/details/etc, but it can actually create lucidity all on its own. I can't imagine how many times, when I first started LDing, that something cool would happen in a non-lucid dream and I'd think, "I got to remember to write this down when I wake up." BOOM! I'd become lucid from this thought alone. So, keep that journal flowing and be sure to keep us all updated on your progress. You never know when your successes and failures could help out a fellow forum lurker. Experience is GOLD when it comes to lucid dreaming. Best of luck to you!
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