Thread: Senses Initiated Lucid Dream (SSILD)

I think SSILD make me more aware in my dreams ... "Energy Flows Where Attention Goes"

I had a LD this morning too and my dreams were Vivid.
When I'm in my dream I just know that something is strange (this morning I was walking very slowly, and yesterday I saw something strange and I've done a reality check...)

Without SSILD I know that everything is strange but only when I wake up ^^

I had my 3rd LD this morning *O*

I went to bed about 1:00 am anddid the SSILD before sleeping, cause it makes me sleep faster, usually I take more time thinking about random things.
I woke up about 6:00 am after a dream, tried to perform SSILD but slept, I think I slept 3 times trying to make a SSILD :O

About 9:00 o'clock I became lucid in a FA with no aparent reason, I didn't knew it was a FA, but I was lucid enough to lie on my bed and try a WILD (yes, during the FA :x). In few seconds I was in SP and going inside a dream. I'll put a better description of the dream in my DJ.

SSILD ROCKS !

I have to add that I'm praticing ADA, RCs during the day, and I always do the MILD too

Originally Posted by Rubens

I had my 3rd LD this morning *O*

I went to bed about 1:00 am anddid the SSILD before sleeping, cause it makes me sleep faster, usually I take more time thinking about random things.
I woke up about 6:00 am after a dream, tried to perform SSILD but slept, I think I slept 3 times trying to make a SSILD :O

About 9:00 o'clock I became lucid in a FA with no aparent reason, I didn't knew it was a FA, but I was lucid enough to lie on my bed and try a WILD (yes, during the FA :x). In few seconds I was in SP and going inside a dream. I'll put a better description of the dream in my DJ.

SSILD ROCKS !

I have to add that I'm praticing ADA, RCs during the day, and I always do the MILD too

SSILD seems particularly good at producing FAs, and sometimes super-realistic FAs. Thus it is a good idea to always do an RC or some form of WILD upon waking up... just like what you did

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

SSILD seems particularly good at producing FAs, and sometimes super-realistic FAs. Thus it is a good idea to always do an RC or some form of WILD upon waking up... just like what you did

Yep, I never had FAs before praticing LD(at least never noticed I had), it's very crazy. But i'm learning to handle them
The crazy part of SSILD I saw is that we become lucid with no reason, as you said. I was lucid but don't remember of doing an RC :O

I almost had a lucid dream again from this technique, but my mind didn't fully realize the fact that I was dreaming. I considered it for a second, but the whole "Oh snap" phase never occurred where I would be completely lucid.

I only managed to do 2 cycles of the technique, and I entered the trance once or twice. I suppose I need to pull myself back a little bit more each time I catch myself drifting off?

I never entered a trance from doing this technique, I do it and usually fall asleep, or after doing the 4-5 cycles I stop and try to sleep.
For example, I did the technique 6:00 and had the dream 8:30

I've never had/remembered a FA and I want to experience one (for future reference) and I especially want to have an OBE. One question though. I've never had an OBE and only one LD, So is an OBE like a LD? What's the difference?

For what I learned, a OBE is basically a LD that you are in your room, your house or walking trough a world that looks a lot like the real world.

Some people believe that they are really in the real world, but I don't belive that :S

Try SSILD in the middle of the night and you may experience one xD, I had my first in the first time of SSILD (even I wasn't lucid in it).

I just had a LD using this technique too. My process is:

1) Drink PLENTY of water
2) Go to sleep quickly after drinking water
3) Wake up to use the bathroom
4) Record last dream in Dream Journal
5) Go on the internet for 15-20 minutes to ensure a small level of awakness
6) Lie flat on my back, arms at my side, and eyes closed.
7) Do four cycles
8) Roll over to most comfortable sleeping position
9) Do four more cycles
10) Sleep

Granted, there are usually three things that prevent me from successfully completing the process often. The first being not waking up in the first place. The second being too tired after waking up to remember to even try (I just use the bathroom and flop back down on my bed and instantly pass out when this happens). The third being falling asleep while doing the cycles (this one happens the least). If these three things didn't happen and I did the process every night I feel as though I would be having LD's multiple times a week.

Originally Posted by JeanLucGodard

I just had a LD using this technique too. My process is:

1) Drink PLENTY of water
2) Go to sleep quickly after drinking water
3) Wake up to use the bathroom
4) Record last dream in Dream Journal
5) Go on the internet for 15-20 minutes to ensure a small level of awakness
6) Lie flat on my back, arms at my side, and eyes closed.
7) Do four cycles
8) Roll over to most comfortable sleeping position
9) Do four more cycles
10) Sleep

Granted, there are usually three things that prevent me from successfully completing the process often. The first being not waking up in the first place. The second being too tired after waking up to remember to even try (I just use the bathroom and flop back down on my bed and instantly pass out when this happens). The third being falling asleep while doing the cycles (this one happens the least). If these three things didn't happen and I did the process every night I feel as though I would be having LD's multiple times a week.

Sounds like a good plan! I may try this tonight too.

Oh and, do you ever get too awake after your on the internet? Because of the lights, etc.? Sometimes I just get on for a couple of minutes, then I'm unable to go back to sleep.

If I'm on for longer than 30 minutes its possible, but since I stay on less than that it isn't. I might not return to sleep quickly but at most its probably 15 minutes ,which is from what I hear, average.

Originally Posted by Windhover@

I claimed that SSILD is not placebo back in the thread, but yes... I think it's placebo, at least, half, IMO.

Has anyone checked out the Chinese forum the guy's talking about to see if the success stories are actually genuine? Anyone could come on this forum and claim they've developed a great technique on a forum in a language that nobody on the forum actually speaks.

I tried this technique this night and I got my fifth Lucid Dream. After a few cycles, my mind drifted away, but I couldn't sleep immediatly. But after I fell asleep, I became lucid out of the blue and had a Lucid Dream, which was quite longer than my LDs before. I also have an good dream recall today.
But I got a question. During this cycles, I suddenly had a strange feeling, as if somebody would throw a ball or a pillow right in my face. Does anyone know, what this was?

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

Has anyone checked out the Chinese forum the guy's talking about to see if the success stories are actually genuine? Anyone could come on this forum and claim they've developed a great technique on a forum in a language that nobody on the forum actually speaks.

If you want you can check out this URL which collects the first-time success cases happened in the last 8 months or so (actually much less because the Zchinese search engine omits several months of data, ridiculously). There are about 250 cases in that thread. If we count the overall success cases then the number can go easily beyond thousands. In fact, one of my students recorded over 200 LDs in less than 8 months

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1481417265

Originally Posted by Sydney

Sounds like a good plan! I may try this tonight too.

Oh and, do you ever get too awake after your on the internet? Because of the lights, etc.? Sometimes I just get on for a couple of minutes, then I'm unable to go back to sleep.

Yesterdaynight I decided to surf on my iphone on my wbtb for like 5-10 minutes.
Never again, ever. I didnt fall asleep and I was up all morning until school. Got 5 hours sleep. xD

Originally Posted by BooHoo

I tried this technique this night and I got my fifth Lucid Dream. After a few cycles, my mind drifted away, but I couldn't sleep immediatly. But after I fell asleep, I became lucid out of the blue and had a Lucid Dream, which was quite longer than my LDs before. I also have an good dream recall today.
But I got a question. During this cycles, I suddenly had a strange feeling, as if somebody would throw a ball or a pillow right in my face. Does anyone know, what this was?

Great !

Maybe it was a SP or a FA...

Originally Posted by daban

Yesterdaynight I decided to surf on my iphone on my wbtb for like 5-10 minutes.
Never again, ever. I didnt fall asleep and I was up all morning until school. Got 5 hours sleep. xD

Yeah, that's what I did sort of. Hmm... I've always wondered what I could do during my WBTB that would allow me to be awake enough to remember to do the technique.. but be able to fall asleep easily. :/

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

If you want you can check out this URL which collects the first-time success cases happened in the last 8 months or so (actually much less because the Zchinese search engine omits several months of data, ridiculously). There are about 250 cases in that thread. If we count the overall success cases then the number can go easily beyond thousands. In fact, one of my students recorded over 200 LDs in less than 8 months

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I went to the site and Google Chrome automatically translated it for me. On the first post it translated something to "Do not water." I LOL'd.. I think this was supposed to be "Do not flame."

Originally Posted by Windhover@

Guys I've been praciticng SSILD for like 15 days and stopped because it didn't work after trying 3-4 times for some reason. I claimed that SSILD is not placebo back in the thread, but yes... I think it's placebo, at least, half, IMO. If SSILD works for you consistently then it's not placebo...because I think you found your technique that fits you, and I've already had my own technique before SSILD - didn't stick to it for long time though - I started to use SSILD because I thought it was the solution for WILD during night...but then I had a dryspell -.-
so don't rely on SSILD too much, I think. few days ago I didn't care about SSILD and then I got instant lucid strangely, and I started to use my own technique again and it's working well...



I'm having the same problem with you! I fall alseep too fast xD you can pm me to discuss with this, we can figure it out.
I don't really care about staying 10 min 30 min whatever the time we have to stay for WBTB - it's really annoying if you waste 30 min and just pass out. I stay up for just 2-5 seconds for WBTB. I think intent is the key

I would just like to say that I've been using this technique for about 4 weeks and I can say that every night that I sleep somewhat early and manage to get perfect amount of activity on my wbtb, I almost guaranteed get lucid with this technique in either dild or deild. It just gives me great awareness. The quality of my lucids arent so good but I dont think it has to do with the technique, I just need to practice more stabilisation and awareness.

This technique doesn't seem to work for me at all. Is it possible that I need to keep using the technique and it works in the long term? Or if I haven't had success after a week does it mean it will not work at all?

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

This technique doesn't seem to work for me at all. Is it possible that I need to keep using the technique and it works in the long term? Or if I haven't had success after a week does it mean it will not work at all?

Maybe if you can provide a detailed description on how you did the exercise I can help you diagnose

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

Maybe if you can provide a detailed description on how you did the exercise I can help you diagnose

I'm a diligent student - I'm sure I'm doing it properly as prescribed by you in your initial tutorial and in subsequent posts. I've also tweaked my approaches slightly; all of those tweaks I've experimented with have been described by you at some point in this thread. Is it time to give up or should I keep trying?

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

I'm a diligent student - I'm sure I'm doing it properly as prescribed by you in your initial tutorial and in subsequent posts. I've also tweaked my approaches slightly; all of those tweaks I've experimented with have been described by you at some point in this thread. Is it time to give up or should I keep trying?

I won't be able to answer your question until I know what exactly went wrong with your exercise. I understand that you are following it diligently, but you have to understand that despite the numerous efforts spent on creating the SSILD technique (as well as everything else out there), lucid dreaming is still more art than science...

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

This technique doesn't seem to work for me at all. Is it possible that I need to keep using the technique and it works in the long term? Or if I haven't had success after a week does it mean it will not work at all?

Lol Bobblehat ...
look at your signature "lucid dreaming is the hardest habit to make" if you believe that lucid dreaming is hard it will be for you ... it's like a placebo effect but in a negative way =) What you believe will be always true for you.

Try affirmations ... "lucid dreaming it's easy and natural for me" or when you do SSILD believe that it will work for you.

Pessimism is not the answer :p