Thread: Senses Initiated Lucid Dream (SSILD)

Originally Posted by daban

Yea this happens to me too with this technique, I just sometimes wake up in sp and get dragged into a dream from almost awake state. It's pretty amazing. These dreams are much more vivid and im much more aware in them compared to normal DILDs

It's usual for me to awake in SP when i'm practising LD more actively, so for me it's not because of this technique

But as i noticed SSILD helps me get to sleep faster after WBTB ^^

When doing SSILD last night, once again, I felt a strangely relaxing sensation. Like I didn't want to move. Ever. I managed to do about 4 cycles before I fell asleep. It was interesting though; I took a lot more time than I thought I did (20-30 seconds) on each rep. After about the second cycle I heard this strange "patter" noise in my ears. It was far away, and I could barely hear it, but it was there.

No lucids, though. Maybe I just can't remember them because of my suddenly failing recall?

I don't remember experiencing anything that can be called sleep paralysis either. Crossing over was a strong tingling sensation that ran through my body, almost like passing through a forcefield of sorts. A rather pleasant way to begin, though I wish I could keep it going.

Ok I tried this in a half-arsed way after my 4:30 alarm went off and I recorded a dream. I found it a bit difficult to fall back to sleep but when I did, I had one of the longest dreams I've ever recorded and I became lucid near the end! Before doing this technique I had only one brief DILD. I'm not sure if this succes was down to my improving recall as a result of MasterMind's walking journal technique or this. Judging by the apparent high success rate of this and the that I became lucid for no apparent reason, I doubt this is placebo. I'm going to continue to use this method and analyse the results before making any conclusions.

Originally Posted by Sydney

When doing SSILD last night, once again, I felt a strangely relaxing sensation. Like I didn't want to move. Ever. I managed to do about 4 cycles before I fell asleep. It was interesting though; I took a lot more time than I thought I did (20-30 seconds) on each rep. After about the second cycle I heard this strange "patter" noise in my ears. It was far away, and I could barely hear it, but it was there.

No lucids, though. Maybe I just can't remember them because of my suddenly failing recall?

When you do notice distinct sensations, such as seeing colors or hearing things, you should pause the exercise and focus on mentally increasing the sensations.

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

When you do notice distinct sensations, such as seeing colors or hearing things, you should pause the exercise and focus on mentally increasing the sensations.

Okay, I'll do that.

No success last night though. I did question reality in one of my dreams, but it failed for some reason. :/

I had no success today either... my thoughts were interrupting me too many times, i couldn't focus on SSILD for some reason... I also woke up a little earlier for WBTB, which probably had to do with the failure :/

Ok tried this again last night. It didn't work but thats likely because I couldn't sleep last night for some odd reason (not related to the SSILD attempt). I'll give it another bash tonight.

My last few attempts I have been falling asleep too quickly after waking up (sometimes because of poor prior sleep) so I know I need to stay up a little longer before beginning the technique. If I normally sleep on my side, would it be a good idea to go through the cycles lying on my back and then turn over on my side to fall asleep quickly?

Originally Posted by DinoSawr

My last few attempts I have been falling asleep too quickly after waking up (sometimes because of poor prior sleep) so I know I need to stay up a little longer before beginning the technique. If I normally sleep on my side, would it be a good idea to go through the cycles lying on my back and then turn over on my side to fall asleep quickly?

I've had that problem too now in 3 days. I'm too tired due to exercise and stuff so I'm just too tired to go up in the night or notice my wakeups after dreams.
And yea it seems like a very good idea to do the technique on your back to then roll over and sleep if your too tired. I will do that too.

Originally Posted by DinoSawr

My last few attempts I have been falling asleep too quickly after waking up (sometimes because of poor prior sleep) so I know I need to stay up a little longer before beginning the technique. If I normally sleep on my side, would it be a good idea to go through the cycles lying on my back and then turn over on my side to fall asleep quickly?

I've had that problem too now in 3 days. I'm too tired due to exercise and stuff so I'm just too tired to go up in the night or notice my wakeups after dreams.
And yea it seems like a very good idea to do the technique on your back to then roll over and sleep if your too tired. I will do that too.

Update:

I did this technique after sleeping for 8 hours and definitely felt the sensations. I went into the trance a little bit as well, forgetting what I was doing and then remembering. Unfortunately, I was a little bit too awake and couldn't fall asleep as fast as I wanted to, but nevertheless I had a short lucid dream later on!

It lasted for only a few seconds because I freaked myself out, (a detailed account can be found here) but I still think it was the SSILD technique that did that for me. Thank you so much, CosmicIron!

Still unable to get some success! It seems like I'm doing the technique okay.

For all the people that have succeeded; for how many hours did you sleep before getting up for WBTB?

Originally Posted by Sydney

Still unable to get some success! It seems like I'm doing the technique okay.

For all the people that have succeeded; for how many hours did you sleep before getting up for WBTB?

I simply do it each time i wake up during the night. from 4-7 hours.

@Sydney
It varies, but since I usually wake naturally at around 3-4:30am It's usually about 6-7 hours sleep. Like you however I have been having little success. We just need to keep at it!

Originally Posted by Sea07

We just need to keep at it!

Definetly.

Originally Posted by Sydney

Still unable to get some success! It seems like I'm doing the technique okay.

For all the people that have succeeded; for how many hours did you sleep before getting up for WBTB?

Sydney, please provide a detailed description on your routine so I can help you diagnose.

Ugh... i was doing SSILD after WBTB today... i did it like 20 times in a row and i couldn't fall asleep at all.. needless to say i didn't get an LD

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

Sydney, please provide a detailed description on your routine so I can help you diagnose.

Haha sorry CosmicIron.
It goes something like this:

I wake up for my WBTB after sleeping for about 5 hours and 30 minutes. I get up, use the restroom, and then get back in bed. All of this happens in about 2 minutes.
I do the technique, but it seems like I take 25 - 35 seconds on each rep (sight, hear, feel) because my mind keeps wandering and I need to start over, or I'm not real sure how long it has been on that rep. Eventually I do about 3 - 4 cycles and then try to fall asleep.

And sometimes I find myself doing the same rep over and over again.

That's pretty much how it goes every night.

Originally Posted by Sydney

Haha sorry CosmicIron.
It goes something like this:

I wake up for my WBTB after sleeping for about 5 hours and 30 minutes. I get up, use the restroom, and then get back in bed. All of this happens in about 2 minutes.
I do the technique, but it seems like I take 25 - 35 seconds on each rep (sight, hear, feel) because my mind keeps wandering and I need to start over, or I'm not real sure how long it has been on that rep. Eventually I do about 3 - 4 cycles and then try to fall asleep.

And sometimes I find myself doing the same rep over and over again.

That's pretty much how it goes every night.

Hows your recall? perhaps your forgetting the dreams and event from the night?
I would try going to bed earlier to notice every awakening and so on.

nothing happened, I've tried this technique for the last 4 days.

I have few questions

1. do I have to get up, for several minutes then doing the techinique?
2. or, can I do this techinique as soon as I wake up, without opening my eyes? (I supposed to combine your technique to DEILD, but I failed again and again.
3. any advice for people like me, who can fall assleep within second. ( I can only do your repetitons techinique only for 2 times) then I totally forget your technique begin wandering and fall assleep?

I've decided to try this technique, as I took a year out of lucid dreaming and thought I'd get back into it again MILD works well for me but I thought I'd give this a try since it seems to have a lot of positive feedback.

Last night I woke up after around 3-4 hours sleep (woke up naturally). I went to the toilet and then back to bed straight away. I got comfy and started to do the cycles, but after around one my body started tensing up. I know exactly what the trance feels like cause I've been there before while MILDing (I got a lot of FAs during my MILDs, I now realise that it could be because of this) and I know I can reach it easily, however I kept having to stop and stretch to release the tension. After awhile this woke me up too much to do the cycles properly, so I just went to sleep normally.

I'll try again tonight, I'm not annoyed from one failure. I think this would work well for me as I can reach the trance state quickly and I've had experience with it before. Tonight I'll set an alarm for around 5.5 hours (this was my optimum MILD time) and stretch well before I go to bed...

It would be awesome to know how this works, I'd like to hear more theories on it

Originally Posted by Sydney

Haha sorry CosmicIron.
It goes something like this:

I wake up for my WBTB after sleeping for about 5 hours and 30 minutes. I get up, use the restroom, and then get back in bed. All of this happens in about 2 minutes.
I do the technique, but it seems like I take 25 - 35 seconds on each rep (sight, hear, feel) because my mind keeps wandering and I need to start over, or I'm not real sure how long it has been on that rep. Eventually I do about 3 - 4 cycles and then try to fall asleep.

And sometimes I find myself doing the same rep over and over again.

That's pretty much how it goes every night.

It appears to me that you may need to stay awake a bit longer. Try staying awake for 10 minutes next time so at least the first couple of repetitions can be done without interruption. After that you can allow your mind to wander and enter the trance.

THIS KILLED OUT MY DRY SPELL..
had an amazing ,very very long lucid