Random Voice Prompt (RVP) Induction Technique - Beta

**Venryx** · 02-15-2017 03:50 PM

Attempt (long sleep, uninterrupted): full lucid

Dream entry: 2017-02-15 5:51 -- Kobayashi foot, cartoon character, coworker names, false awakening experiment - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Relevant part of log:

Spoiler for :

The final "Hukif" voice prompt was after I awoke, as I'd already done a confirmed reality-check.

Which means the last voice prompt, two minutes prior, had been the one saying "peter pan", which is one of the three names the dream character gave me for my friend's list of coworkers!

Now what's interesting is that his including peter pan in that list did not break the flow of his sentence -- at least not enough for me to notice at the time. This means my subconscious (or whatever you call it) managed to integrate an external term without me noticing -- it just mixed it in.

It's interesting because it provides a rare example where the subconscious provided a response, but we actually know exactly what caused it! I find this cool, and wonder if we could harness the integration phenomenon for something. (well, dream incubation for one, though that's less important once you learn to teleport reliably)

Anyway, a nice first night with my S+ monitoring code in place.
Did you notice that it correctly knew I was in rem before the moment with the peter pan prompt where I knew I was dreaming? Looking further back in the logs, it estimated rem-onset as being about five minutes earlier; the sleep-stage "7" means rem-sleep. I should actually update the logging code to include the name version as well, for convenience.
Anyway -- its first real-time test, and it nailed it.

Success rates:
Long sleep: 22/28(+14 interrupted) (12 weak, 10 full)
Post-sleep nap: 19/22 (2 weak, 17 full)
Isolated nap: 4/6 (2 weak, 2 full)

**Venryx** · 02-16-2017 07:09 PM

Attempt (long sleep, uninterrupted): full lucid

This one was quite long and satisfying. I was able to treat the dream world more persistently than I normally do, essentially going on an adventure instead of just trying a few things before it faded. (I only remember fragments at this point due to falling back asleep and then getting interrupted for an hour, though)

It eventually faded to a false-awakening, which I woke myself from out of habit. (need to break that habit, and learn to more consistently "jump back in", despite the shock of finding myself still in-dream)

Success rates:
Long sleep: 23/29(+14 interrupted) (12 weak, 11 full)
Post-sleep nap: 19/22 (2 weak, 17 full)
Isolated nap: 4/6 (2 weak, 2 full)

**Venryx** · 02-16-2017 11:53 PM

Attempt (post-sleep nap): failure

I blame my headache.

Success rates:
Long sleep: 23/29(+14 interrupted) (12 weak, 11 full)
Post-sleep nap: 19/23 (2 weak, 17 full)
Isolated nap: 4/6 (2 weak, 2 full)

**Venryx** · 02-18-2017 07:53 PM

This approach has worked pretty well for me, however, I am always on the lookout for new potential, and thus am switching focus onto the next avenue that has opened: detection of REM using the S+ sleep tracker, followed by brief awakenings, to facilitate many DEILD attempts each night.

As mentioned above, the Lucid Link app now connects with the S+ sleep tracker, and lets you script your own responses to the sleep-stage change events. I currently have this set up to start audio prompts after 3 minutes into REM-sleep, and repeat every 2 minutes (yes, it's quite frequent; I'll probably slow it down once I've finished the early evaluation). The volume is set to be loud enough to wake me, but not too loud to make falling back asleep difficult.

I did my first full attempt last night, and gained a lucid from it -- briefly bubbling into waking awareness, then letting myself fall back into the dream I'd just exited from.

Anyway, it's set up on my tablet now, so I'm going to be giving it a try for a few weeks, just like I did for this technique. I'll post my success rates every night, just like here, so we can see directly how the two compare.

Here's the thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...y-testing.html

Anyway, hopefully I'll get some good success out of this! I believe it has a good basis in theory (in part because it lets you have many attempts each night, by ensuring you're engaged with at least some prompts each night), but we'll have to see if, in practice, it has any complications that end up breaking that simple foundation.

Wish me luck!