Thread: Finger Induced Lucid Dream (fild)

I seem to do it for a few minutes but not fall asleep. Is moving to turn off the alarm waking me up too much? Anyone try a CAN-FILD? It might work well.

Seems to me that if i try it three or so times and it doesn't work and im still awake i can always attempt a WILD

I tried it last night, but it didn't work I, too, had a crappy sleep.

Originally Posted by horsey101

Is moving to turn off the alarm waking me up too much? Anyone try a CAN-FILD? It might work well.

I think that as long as the 'turn off' button is fairly easy to press while half-asleep, it is ok. A few nights ago, I woke up in the middle of the night, sat up and looked at the clock, and succeded a FILD. However if turning off the alarm wakes you up too much, then a CANFILD may work, but where to get an automatic turn-off alarm...?

In regard to how to move the fingers, I just sort of flex them really slightly one after another. i think the best way to do a FILD is not to get caught up in procedure (although it is very simple) and just do what feels right for you.
Last night I did a FILD, and really soon after I was randomly lying on my side in a new position, and I had a sort of OBE ish experience (but it was probably just a dream). I felt my hand like separating from my physical hand, there were these weird vibrations as I pulled with a lot of effort. I pulled my torso and head up also, and looked down at the bed to see if I could see my physical body, but it was really dark in my room so I couldnt really tell... then I thought "mmmeh I don't know if I'm actually dreaming.." and at that point I forget what happened.

I tried to FILD but fell asleep

This sounds like a great method. I'll give it a go tonight. (I'm just a beginner and haven't found any technique which works yet, however, I shan't give up!)
I often wake up at 4:30 am (or within 20 minutes of 4:30) to go to the toilet. Does getting up and going to the toilet wake me up too much? Or could I still try it then?
I would try an alarm clock but I have school...and I don't think my sister would be too impressed with me waking her up at all hours of the morning...
Also, when people say they feel like they are entering a lucid dream...what does that feel like? I've often read HI...but I am yet to be familiar with the acronyms which are used so excessively on this website If someone could translate that'd be awesome!

Looks like this should work for me. I wake up naturally at around 3 am every night for some odd reason. Hopefully I'll get a proper LD tonight. Wish me luck!

@Flamingozilla Theres actually a dictionary thing on this site I think it's in the tutorial section. I'll try to get a link

i cant stay awake more than a couple seconds of doing that without going to sleep. what should i do?

Hypnagogic imagery. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia#Sights
Read the tutorial section to understand the abbreviations used. The site is very confusing for a beginner unless you read up on them.

I keep waking up at almost the right time then try to go back to sleep saying "I'm not tired enough to try a FILD yet. Just wait a moment till you're tired".

One moment later

Zzzzzz.....

Originally Posted by mattbrox

I keep waking up at almost the right time then try to go back to sleep saying "I'm not tired enough to try a FILD yet. Just wait a moment till you're tired".

One moment later

Zzzzzz.....

How true....

I tried this method a few hours ago (it's morning over here right now), and I didn't become lucid. Not very surprising because it's the first time I'm using this method.

But I think I was really close to attaining lucidity this time! After 10 seconds of FILD'ing I felt something like a shockwave of energy rushing through my body and I heard a white noise that was getting louder and louder! So I didn't move and thought about nothing, and suddenly the feeling and sound disappeared. I did an RC to see if this was a FA, but the RC failed and I was wide awake again...

I think I did an RC to early and should continue with FILD even after the feeling disappeared. This is a very effective technique and I'll definitly try this again tomorrow!

Do you experience SP in this? Like, the hallucinations?

I never reached the state in which hallucinations occur, and it varies from person to person. So people don't experience hallucinations at all.
This was the first time I tried FILD, but I never had any hallucinations using WILD (I only heard loud noise, like white noise or a plane flying by at really low altitude).

If you're afraid of hallucinations (I'm afraid of them too), try to do FILD or WILD in the early morning, when the sun is already shining, and remember everything you see is just a creation of your own mind. The hallucinations can't harm you, so relax and think about how fascinating the human mind is.

Can someone explain the difference between FILD and DEILD? From what I understand in DEILD you just lie still and enter a LD anyway, so what is the point in needing to move your fingers if just laying still gets you into a lucid? Unless I'm missing something?

DEILD is a wilder ride. What I mean by that is that you usually get a lot more sensations, which are either fun or scary depending on your point of view.

Originally Posted by LRT

DEILD is a wilder ride. What I mean by that is that you usually get a lot more sensations, which are either fun or scary depending on your point of view.

I see. I've experienced a DEILD a couple of times. I don't think I've had a FILD before although I have tried to. I just don't see why we need to move our fingers to get us into a lucid dream. It seems just the same as a DEILD except for the finger movements-and these seem unnecessary when DEILD works without movement. (Not trying to put a downer on the technique or anything) Just trying to understand. So is it just a way to bypass the sensations? Which one is quicker, DEILD or FILD?

FILD is a great technique for people who are afraid of sensations like hallucinations, free-fall feelings and stuff like that.
I'm a beginner and used FILD two times so far. The first attempt almost succeeded, but the second one was a direct hit! I had my first 'real and longlasting' LD using this method!
The only sensations I experienced was a white-noise like sound, and pulsing energy waves through my body. I didn't have any hallucinations or stuff like that.

'This morning, I woke up at 8.25 & I decided to get some more sleep because I felt pretty tired. I thought about LD'ing, and when I closed my eyes suddenly an enormous energy rushed through my body! I was really conscious at that moment, and afraid of hallucinations/sounds I started FILD'ing to make the wild ride a bit less wild. While using FILD the enormous energy rush came in 'waves', and after a few of those energy waves I opened my eyes. I was lying in my bed, and my room looked normal... But it felt different, and I did a nose-pinch RC... I was definitly dreaming!'

More about this experience can be found here: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...33#post1464333

Argh, lucky, I wish FILD would work for me. But of course, the easy stuff never works for me -.-

I can't FILD i will just fall asleep within seconds

Since the only time I tried this technique it worked, I'm going to attempt it again tonight.

My alarm went off about 3.5 hours after I fell asleep. I accidentally hit the snooze button, but I tried the technique anyway even though I was anticipating my alarm ringing 9 minutes later. It didn't work the first time. When I woke up again I tried it but it didn't work. I'm pretty sure I didn't wake up in REM sleep though. I woke up pretty aware and I didn't recall any dreams.