Pyrokinesis: Possible or impossible?

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Originally Posted by Will1

The theory of scientific method has nothing to do with this topic. This topic has nothing to do with proving it real, therefore scientific method wouldn't be utilized, correct?

We're ignorant? Your the one saying this infinite universe is limited in possibilities, while that's already proven false.

Also

Juggalo, its apparent these are close minded people, I pity them. Xei gives half-assed responses because he can't reply to my original arguement, Snoop jumped in the middle talking about scientific theory which isn't relevant to this thread, and I'm not going to waste time helping the helpless.

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I couldn't agree more. Back to the original subject maybe? Cos I, for one, am tired of this.

In dreams it's posible! I tried throwing a fireball at some guy, it hardly burned his hair

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Originally Posted by mowglycdb

In dreams it's posible! I tried throwing a fireball at some guy, it hardly burned his hair

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Good point. In a dream, absolutely anything is possible, and just a mere thought away. However, my original question was about whether it's possible within waking reality or not. :P

Mowglycdb, what are your thoughts on that?

you mean like creating fire out of nothing? or setting something on fire? maybe if you get 1000 people experienced in psi and qigong masters they could unite energy into one point to set a paper on fire????

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Originally Posted by Will1

Source?

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Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

Clearly you have nothing to back you up on.

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Mr. Masaru Emoto has yet to make his water crystal magic happen under controlled conditions. Look it up, there's nothing. It's his mere word against the collective work of many many physicists and other scientists.

Yes, I mean precisely that. However, it's not entirely out of 'nothing'. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it is only borrowed. Therefore, it is essential for pyrokinesis, as it's heat energy we require initially to spark a flame.

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Originally Posted by mowglycdb

maybe if you get 1000 people experienced in psi and qigong masters they could unite energy into one point to set a paper on fire????

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As simple as that sounds, I hadn't considered that before. Group-work? Maybe it could certainly speed up the process.

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Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

Ah, but Will1 shares the same views as me, so why would I?

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Intellectual honesty? Oh never mind.

In case you weren't aware Will, the things I asked you to cite were not in that website. So now you're going to adjust your position, right?

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Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

Mr. Masaru Emoto has yet to make his water crystal magic happen under controlled conditions. Look it up, there's nothing. It's his mere word against the collective work of many many physicists and other scientists.

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Fair point, however that subject was a major side-track from the original, and has now come to a close. If you want to discuss that, please set up your own thread in relation to that.

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Originally Posted by Xei

Intellectual honesty? Oh never mind.

In case you weren't aware Will, the things I asked you to cite were not in that website. So now you're going to adjust your position, right?

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I believe this is at an end. Pyrokinesis, or nothing. That whole debate was unnecessary, and time wasting.

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Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

Yes, I mean precisely that. However, it's not entirely out of 'nothing'. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it is only borrowed. Therefore, it is essential for pyrokinesis, as it's heat energy we require initially to spark a flame.



As simple as that sounds, I hadn't considered that before. Group-work? Maybe it could certainly speed up the process.

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Yes I believe that raising my own physical tempeture a bit is posible, when I channel reiki my hands get quite hotter, but I don't know if combined forces would make it hotter than that you know?

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Originally Posted by Xei

Intellectual honesty? Oh never mind.

In case you weren't aware Will, the things I asked you to cite were not in that website. So now you're going to adjust your position, right?

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I would, but I'm bored with the conversation due to you taking cheap shots like few worded posts used to provoke flame wars between all of us.

*Yawn*

If you insist, what is not on the website I provided?

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Originally Posted by mowglycdb

Yes I believe that raising my own physical tempeture a bit is posible, when I channel reiki my hands get quite hotter, but I don't know if combined forces would make it hotter than that you know?

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I guess the only way we'll know (or get a step closer) is to conduct an experiment with many experienced individuals.

I believe there was an experiment done with a thousand people where they focused on a tree and set it on fire, but its just something I've heard so I haven't done any research on it.

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Originally Posted by Will1

I would, but I'm bored with the conversation due to you taking cheap shots like few worded posts used to provoke flame wars between all of us.

*Yawn*

If you insist, what is not on the website I provided?

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The fact that you consider quoting the exact same thing you said to me as 'flaming' should really make you stop and reconsider. Of course, you're not going to, but it should.

To answer your question, just reread my original post?

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Originally Posted by Will1

The theory of scientific method has nothing to do with this topic. This topic has nothing to do with proving it real, therefore scientific method wouldn't be utilized, correct?

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Nope. What's possible and what's not is defined by what knowledge we have about the world. The most efficient and reliable way of attaining and building on knowledge is the scientific method (source: History of the world - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), so it is indeed very relevant to the thread.

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Originally Posted by Will1

I would, but I'm bored with the conversation due to you taking cheap shots like few worded posts used to provoke flame wars between all of us.

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taking cheap shots

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provoke flame wars between all of us

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Originally Posted by Will1

Juggalo, its apparent these are close minded people, I pity them.

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Red herring with irony, my favourite.

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Originally Posted by Will1

I believe there was an experiment done with a thousand people where they focused on a tree and set it on fire, but its just something I've heard so I haven't done any research on it.

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Where did you hear that? Sounds intriguing.

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Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

Nope. What's possible and what's not is defined by what knowledge we have about the world. The most efficient and reliable way of attaining and building on knowledge is the scientific method (source: History of the world - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), so it is indeed very relevant to the thread.

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We're not proving it ourselves, so we won't be using it. Unless your conducting a study for all of us? If so, thanks a bunch! If not, just shut up because your typing style is boring me, you jumped in the middle of something ending, and your not contributing to anything but flame.

Kthnx.

Please don't tell people to shut up, and don't say somebody is flaming when they clearly aren't. If you think somebody is going over the top then PM a moderator.

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Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

Where did you hear that? Sounds intriguing.

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I'll try to find it (It'll take me a sec.)

Can't find it, I suppose it was a rumor. (Although I did find this if it sparks any interest.)

ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101229204030AAVjtHo

Still don't like how I can't post links :whyohwhy:

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Originally Posted by Will1

We're not proving it ourselves, so we won't be using it. Unless your conducting a study for all of us? If so, thanks a bunch! If not, just shut up because your typing style is boring me, you jumped in the middle of something ending, and your not contributing to anything but flame.

Kthnx.

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You asked if it's possible, as far as we know it's not and it has already been shown why the use of a scientific mindset is justified. There's no need to get mad at people disagreeing with you.

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Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

You asked if it's possible, as far as we know it's not and it has already been shown why the use of a scientific mindset is justified. There's no need to get mad at people disagreeing with you.

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Perhaps I was a bit mean, apologies.

But I'm afraid we'll have to move from that argument, its wasting precious time, lets be a bit more productive in our posts.
I realize we're doing nothing but needlessly harming each other, we are all equal humans and deserve respect.

Although try to see it like this: We are all equal humans, and one side of humans think one thing and another think something else.
Are either of them 'crazy'? No, they simply don't understand each other.

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You actually believe all humans are equal? :facepalm:
This is obviously not true because some people can perform Telekinesis while others can't.

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Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

You actually believe all humans are equal? :facepalm:
This is obviously not true because some people can perform Telekinesis while others can't.

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Equality in a different sense, I think he means.

What other sense is there? Please explain because I'm not sure I understand.

Oh, and my contribution to the thread: pyrokinesis is impossible.