Thread: Pyrokinesis: Possible or impossible?

Discuss.

Possible.

If telekinesis is possible, there is no reason pyrokinesis wouldn't be. Of course, it'll be on a lesser scale than how the movie's depict it.
I've been on multiple telekinesis forums, I even own an mp3 file with telekinesis subliminal messages on it. (The owner of a telekinesis website created it but then it shortly disappeared, fortunately I saved it before the site went down)

Pyrokinesis is just another form of telekinesis, motion creates heat - therefore, possible.

There's no reason to think that it is possible.

Originally Posted by xei

there's no reason to think that it is possible.

Originally Posted by will1

possible.

If telekinesis is possible, there is no reason pyrokinesis wouldn't be. Of course, it'll be on a lesser scale than how the movie's depict it.
I've been on multiple telekinesis forums, i even own an mp3 file with telekinesis subliminal messages on it. (the owner of a telekinesis website created it but then it shortly disappeared, fortunately i saved it before the site went down)

pyrokinesis is just another form of telekinesis, motion creates heat - therefore, possible.

burned.

Originally Posted by TraceFleeman

burned.

Not with pyrokinesis

If you firmly believe its not possible, I would like you to study it for ohh... Around a thousand years and explore 100% of the brain you only use <10% of, then get back to us and tell us its not possible.

Asian cultures have been using pyrokinesis for hundreds of years, they use it to generate heat with what they call "Chakra" into their hands when using therapeutic back massages.

Thank you, sir.

Originally Posted by Will1

and explore 100% of the brain you only use <10% of

myth myth myth myth

seriously, not true. we kind of use all of it at different times and with different intensity.

Originally Posted by dajo

myth myth myth myth

seriously, not true. we kind of use all of it at different times and with different intensity.

Hmm, I've just researched it a bit more - and it appears there is some myth to it.

There is a "myth to the myth", if you will, we use 100% of the parts of the brain we're using.
Which activate at different times, and if we were truly using 100% of all sections of your brain - we would all be geniuses. This is obviously not the case, we all know we're not operating at full capacity - common sense can tell us that.

So there is truth to it, and on top of that - there are sections of the brain we have not activated. Plus in our DNA, scientists currently believe 90% of what we thought was "junk matter" may actually hold more to it than we have ever thought.

Personally I think it is more than possible. Knowledge is infinite, which technically means anything is possible - you just require certain factors to be met previously.

The brain is still a total mystery, no question about it.

And I am relatively open to psi in general, I enjoy reading Dean Radin and Rupert Sheldrake about mind processes and their influence. But the 10%, for credibilities sake, should be abolished. It's just not true. The only other time I recently came across it was when the church of scientology handed me a paper with this "fact" as a basis of their "arguments".

10% of brain myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you believe that we only use 10% of our brains, read this and stop using it as part of your arguments. I am not trying to offend anyone, or start an argument about other aspects of why pyrokinesis does or does not make sense. I am just pointing out a fallacy in many of these arguments which should not be ignored. We cannot "unlock the potential" of 90% of our brains because we are already using close to 100% of our brains.

Comparing by (mass used)/(total mass) with the brain makes about as much sense as telling people that their computers only use 30% of their components because the rest is just casing and support. While it is technically true, there is no way for you to "unlock" the potential in the plastic casing surrounding your computer parts.

Edit:

There are many things that natural science cannot ascertain; non-physical things like metaphysics, or mental things like morality. Psi is, however, not one of these; it is a physical thing, that can be scientifically ascertained.

This is a very accurate description in my opinion: it acknowledges that science has a specific domain (the natural, observable world) and that it cannot be applied to subjects outside that domain. If something like pyrokinesis truly bridges the gap between the natural and supernatural, then it would be expected for it to be scientifically observable. One could respond by saying that the act of scientific observation makes the bridge impossible, but then it is once again entirely outside the domain of science.

Your argument hinges on the evidence of "studies" for which you can't provide references, and you think your posts are worthy of a valid argument? Bah.

Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

Your argument hinges on the evidence of "studies" for which you can't provide references, and you think your posts are worthy of a valid argument? Bah.

You didn't read my previous posts?

Code:

parapsych.org/
princeton.edu/~pear/
youtube.com/watch?v=4jgMzcRxxEE
youtube.com/watch?v=ZdEl8OlQlLc&feature=related
youtube.com/watch?v=FeFuc-qFKoA&feature=related

More troll less science, much?

Whoopsies, you know while I was participating in this topic, I completely forgot my true intention and train of thought.
While I'm battling you on these minor details of telekinesis on PSI, I forgot the mind operates the entire physical plane - not just moving objects.

I completely forgot my knowledge of Quantum Physics, I don't know what I was thinking, but while I was watching one of my sources I remembered everything I had forgotten with one quote.

"All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together"

I feel foolish for forgetting something that I grown around.

Infinite knowledge would presumably require infinite humans... and I don't think they would fit in the universe.

You forget that people die?

Xei, your argument to me isn't worth the quote.

All you did just now is prove my point your close-minded, and if you still don't believe you are, look at your defensiveness.
You only pointed out the PEAR resource I gave you and neglected everything else given to help defend your argument, but that only proved my point.

And yes, you don't know the scientific community very well. When you say these people are only open minded, we're talking about sheep who accepted something into their community only after somebody who wasn't a nay-sayer go through hell just to get it accepted and proven, sorry but the modern day community doesn't know crap compared to the ancient civilizations that showed them over half the things they knew today without the tools they have.

The ancient civilizations knew more about the stars and planets that modern day scientists are only just now learning today. You are a fool to believe scientists are open minded, they are the most close minded people in the world.

Ancient Egypt - Modern day scientists still can't figure out the mathematics behind the pyramids and still can't replicate one even with the tools. Egyptians also had mystery schools and passed these sciences down through generations and today we still have those schools with advanced sciences - with telekinesis included in the material. We call this society the "Rosicrucians".

Science only comes after the theory, sorry - if your strictly science, your going to be on the slow end of the creative process.

You make false assumptions pretty quick, and when I call you close minded - try to think why I might call you that while your typing your next message.

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Albert Einstein

Open mindedness is NOT the same as blindy accepting dumb fairy tales without any proof.

Will, if you would stop saying that there is proof and provide some, please. Thank you. YOU have the burden of proof, since YOU are the one making the positive claim.

The ancient sivilizations knew nothing compared to us. Sure, they might've realized the basic movements of planets and such, but they sure as heck didn't know what the starts were made of, how long they had been there, how they came there, and why they were even visible.

Can't replicate a pyramid? Who would invest the resources into making such a useless journey. Sure, it'd be interesting, but nobody is really trying to do it that seriously.

Science is needed to compile the theory. Before that, it's a hypothesis. If it is not more possible than other insane hypothesises, it's as useless as any rambling of an insane man.

Originally Posted by JussiKala

Open mindedness is NOT the same as blindy accepting dumb fairy tales without any proof.

Will, if you would stop saying that there is proof and provide some, please. Thank you. YOU have the burden of proof, since YOU are the one making the positive claim.

I see. You must excuse me, I tend to forget you left-brainers require sources because you can't find it yourself.

How about this?
youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc

I hope that doesn't go over your head, study it.

You know, I thought you were going somewhere with this until...

Originally Posted by JussiKala

The ancient sivilizations knew nothing compared to us. Sure, they might've realized the basic movements of planets and such, but they sure as heck didn't know what the starts were made of, how long they had been there, how they came there, and why they were even visible.

Civilizations*
You must've lost your mind, they knew everything compared to us. Basic movements? They had complete layouts and mappings of the stars, using mathematics today that we still don't have a hint on how they discovered. Half of the planets they have mapped out isn't even visible using the human eye, and today we haven't a clue on how they knew about it.

Even their pyramids were mapped out across the land according to the stars. That was a foolish statement, if only you knew how much they did... The only reason we know over half of what we do is because of them, and we're still learning from them. What do you think, they were stupid? They had the most advanced mathematics in the world, do your research.

Originally Posted by JussiKala

Can't replicate a pyramid? Who would invest the resources into making such a useless journey. Sure, it'd be interesting, but nobody is really trying to do it that seriously.

Useless? The pyramids are the most stable structures in the world, they survived thousands of years through floods and droughts, while modern day structures barely last a few years. They invented the light bulb AND air conditioning through practical mathematics, most people don't know that. I'm guessing your one of them?

Originally Posted by JussiKala

Science is needed to compile the theory. Before that, it's a hypothesis. If it is not more possible than other insane hypothesises, it's as useless as any rambling of an insane man.

There is science behind it.

Originally Posted by Will1

There is science behind it.

And yet you can't show it.

Originally Posted by Will1

Ancient Egypt - Modern day scientists still can't figure out the mathematics behind the pyramids and still can't replicate one even with the tools.

Hahahaha...omg

I guess you've never stayed at the Luxor. The pyramid is accurate in proportion to Khufu's pyramid, yet it's slightly larger, is mostly hollow, and lights up at night.

Originally Posted by cmind

The pyramid is accurate in proportion to Khufu's pyramid, yet it's slightly larger, is mostly hollow, and lights up at night.

You just stated yourself that it's not a replica, therefore reinforcing Will1's point. Nice job.

Jussi, it's ignorance like yours which causes wars, I'm afraid.

Will1's IQ is over 9000.

Leaving thread due to excess stupid, gullible, ignorant, and lack of reading skills.

Originally Posted by Xei

Leaving thread due to excess stupid, gullible, false, and lack of reading skills.

No, your leaving due to your inability to comprehend what "open minded" means, and your trying to insult us? Your the one backing out of something you jumped into.