Pyrokinesis: Possible or impossible?

**LucidJuggalo** · 03-28-2011 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Xei

I'd ask if you have any evidence but I think at this point that'd be extremely blockheaded of me.

That basically means: I know you're right, and I'm too up my own ass to acknowledge that, so I'm just going to throw in whatever provokes you because my immaturity levels are blooming.

Take yourself out of this thread, like you clearly stated you were going to do earlier, unless you can actually respond with something worthwhile.

**Xei** · 03-28-2011 06:10 PM

That'd be a bit easier to believe if he'd actually provided some evidence instead of linking to an unrelated video, wouldn't it?

**LucidJuggalo** · 03-28-2011 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Xei

That'd be a bit easier to believe if he'd actually provided some evidence instead of linking to an unrelated video, wouldn't it?

What did I just say?

**snoop** · 03-28-2011 06:13 PM

I don't think you understand scientific method, so let me spell it out for you: you make an observation, you create a hypothesis, you make a prediction, you test your hypothesis (multiple times), and you draw a conclusion. You meticulously document the entire process, and then you publish your findings in hopes that other scientists can replicate your results. Once the results have been replicated by enough other scientists, the findings may become a scientific theory. Honestly you should brush up on your high school science education because you've done nothing so far but make a fool of yourself.

Since I know what I am saying is true and not some garbage I made up myself, I'll provide a credible source to back up what I am saying.
Introduction to the Scientific Method

Let me ask you this: do you think you could submit any of the links you've provided in a Works Cited page of a report for a university, or even a high school? Last time I checked, youtube is not a credible source. Mostly because people can upload whatever the hell they want on it.

**Will1** · 03-28-2011 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Xei

That'd be a bit easier to believe if he'd actually provided some evidence instead of linking to an unrelated video, wouldn't it?

Did you just say quantum physics isn't related to telekinesis? I would laugh so hard right now if I could do it through my keyboard.

Perhaps you should watch the video.

**Xei** · 03-28-2011 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

What did I just say?

You said that my asking for evidence is the same thing as saying "you are right and I am wrong", which apparently makes sense in your world, remember?

Originally Posted by Will1

Did you just say quantum physics isn't related to telekinesis? I would laugh so hard right now if I could do it through my keyboard.

Perhaps you should watch the video.

Ya I wasn't asking about that, I was asking if you could back up the whole Egyptian astronomy thing.

I don't need to watch the layman's video as I already know about quantum physics, thanks. Not sure why you're now using the work of closed minded scientists, but whatever.

**snoop** · 03-28-2011 06:17 PM

A video on quantum physics does not explain or prove telekinesis. Why? Because it explains quantum physics, not telekinesis. Unless you can show me, with a credible source, that there is some practical application of quantum physics that can be used to perform or prove telekinesis, you have proven nothing.

**Will1** · 03-28-2011 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

I don't think you understand scientific method, so let me spell it out for you: you make an observation, you create a hypothesis, you make a prediction, you test your hypothesis (multiple times), and you draw a conclusion. You meticulously document the entire process, and then you publish your findings in hopes that other scientists can replicate your results. Once the results have been replicated by enough other scientists, the findings may become a scientific theory. Honestly you should brush up on your high school science education because you've done nothing so far but make a fool of yourself.

Since I know what I am saying is true and not some garbage I made up myself, I'll provide a credible source to back up what I am saying.
Introduction to the Scientific Method

Let me ask you this: do you think you could submit any of the links you've provided in a Works Cited page of a report for a university, or even a high school? Last time I checked, youtube is not a credible source. Mostly because people can upload whatever the hell they want on it.

Well if I didn't understand the complete scientific method, I do now! Thanks buddy.

But you still need to solve umm... Oh yes! Proving telekinesis wrong, because scientific method is completely irrelevant to this topic.
Also, I can't hyper link so if I don't make my links all neat and fancy you'll have to excuse me.

The links I've given you all to YouTube have been done by prestigious professors and quantum theorists like Michio Kaku, don't try to downplay my sources because they aren't typed on a boring page like yours is.

I advise you to look into the documentary "What the Bleep Do We Know".

**Xei** · 03-28-2011 06:19 PM

Yeah you should know that that 'documentary' is a piece of propaganda and cites various pieces of demonstrated scientific fraud.

**Will1** · 03-28-2011 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

A video on quantum physics does not explain or prove telekinesis. Why? Because it explains quantum physics, not telekinesis. Unless you can show me, with a credible source, that there is some practical application of quantum physics that can be used to perform or prove telekinesis, you have proven nothing.

If you look into it, you'll see the relevancy - please look into it before typing your next post.

**Will1** · 03-28-2011 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Xei

Yeah you should know that that 'documentary' is a piece of propaganda and cites various pieces of demonstrated scientific fraud.

Like?

**Xei** · 03-28-2011 06:21 PM

The water molecule thing for one turned out to be fraud.

**Will1** · 03-28-2011 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Xei

Ya I wasn't asking about that, I was asking if you could back up the whole Egyptian astronomy thing.

I don't need to watch the layman's video as I already know about quantum physics, thanks. Not sure why you're now using the work of closed minded scientists, but whatever.

ancient-wisdom.co.uk/egyptastronomy.htm

If you knew about quantum physics, you wouldn't have said telekinesis isn't possible. Thanks.

**Will1** · 03-28-2011 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Xei

The water molecule thing for one turned out to be fraud.

Source?

**Xei** · 03-28-2011 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Will1

Source?

"I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it." - Morpheus

**Will1** · 03-28-2011 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Xei

"I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it." - Morpheus

Son of a...

**LucidJuggalo** · 03-28-2011 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Xei

You said that my asking for evidence is the same thing as saying "you are right and I am wrong", which apparently makes sense in your world, remember?

Like I said, your is head is way too high in the clouds to acknowledge it. He's already provided evidence. Glad to see you like backing me up.

Originally Posted by Xei

"I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it." - Morpheus

That's not a source, that's a comeback. This isn't a trolling site.

Also, nice avoidance. Clearly you have nothing to back you up on.

**snoop** · 03-28-2011 06:27 PM

Scientific method has nothing to do with this topic? How else are you going to prove telekinesis/pyrokinesis right or wrong? I think it has everything to do with this topic, and the fact that you feel that it doesn't speaks volumes about how ignorant you are. Also, why should I, the negative, have to prove to you that telekinesis is not real? The burden of proof is left on the positive, which are you and LucidJuggalo.

Besides, it is easy for me to prove: no one that I know can do it. Not a single one. If you respond with, "well just because you or them can't do it doesn't mean others can't or you don't have the potential," stop right there. Remember I said a hypothesis must be falsifiable before you can even subject it to the process of the scientific method? Well, the hypothesis that all humans have the potential to perform telekinesis or pyrokinesis is unfalsifiable. Because your hypothesis is unfalsifiable, it therefore cannot be proven by the scientific method, thereby destroying what little credibility you originally had.

**Xei** · 03-28-2011 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Will1

Son of a...

I encourage you to investigate more with an open mind.

Look into it, I don't have it written on the back of my hand.

**LucidJuggalo** · 03-28-2011 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Xei

I encourage you to investigate more with an open mind.

Look into it, I don't have it written on the back of my hand.

You should look into your own advice. You'll find it highly useful.

**snoop** · 03-28-2011 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

That's not a source, that's a comeback. This isn't a trolling site.

Also, nice avoidance. Clearly you have nothing to back you up on.

Xei was playing a joke on Will1. At the beginning of the thread, he refused to provide evidence and told everyone to go find it for themselves. Xei was simply doing the same thing but doing so through a quote rather than bluntly stating "find the proof for my argument yourself," like Will1 did. I find it laughable you would get angry at Xei for this but not Will1.

**LucidJuggalo** · 03-28-2011 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

Besides, it is easy for me to prove: no one that I know can do it.

Because that's blatantly proof.

**Xei** · 03-28-2011 06:33 PM

I think the select phrase is 'rank hypocrisy and bias'?

**Will1** · 03-28-2011 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

Scientific method has nothing to do with this topic? How else are you going to prove telekinesis/pyrokinesis right or wrong? I think it has everything to do with this topic, and the fact that you feel that it doesn't speaks volumes about how ignorant you are. Also, why should I, the negative, have to prove to you that telekinesis is not real? The burden of proof is left on the positive, which are you and LucidJuggalo.

The theory of scientific method has nothing to do with this topic. This topic has nothing to do with proving it real, therefore scientific method wouldn't be utilized, correct?

We're ignorant? Your the one saying this infinite universe is limited in possibilities, while that's already proven false.

Also

Juggalo, its apparent these are close minded people, I pity them. Xei gives half-assed responses because he can't reply to my original arguement, Snoop jumped in the middle talking about scientific theory which isn't relevant to this thread, and I'm not going to waste time helping the helpless.

Close minded ignorance is bliss, huh?

**LucidJuggalo** · 03-28-2011 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by snoop

Xei was playing a joke on Will1. At the beginning of the thread, he refused to provide evidence and told everyone to go find it for themselves. Xei was simply doing the same thing but doing so through a quote rather than bluntly stating "find the proof for my argument yourself," like Will1 did. I find it laughable you would get angry at Xei for this but not Will1.

Ah, but Will1 shares the same views as me, so why would I?