Thread: Share your PSI Abilities!

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

You're missing the point. You implied I'm not open-minded, and that's not true.

Also, this

is not what I did.

I wasn't implying you are close minded, and that was true if you come in and say you don't believe in it then you're saying that you do not believe we've done these things.

Also, me and you(scatterbrain) bickering back and forth is wasting space on this thread.

Originally Posted by MementoMori

I wasn't implying you are close minded, and that was true if you come in and say you don't believe in it then you're saying that you do not believe we've done these things.

Yet again you proved you missed the point of the video...

Being open-minded doesn't mean accepting everything people tell you. It's being willing to change your mind on a given subject, demanding evidence and a reasoning before doing so is not only perfectly acceptable as it is recommended.


With that said, about 'psi': I've been there, I even have the old psi-wheel, I understand very well how easy it is for one to get deluded into believing we're actually moving it. It really seems like it's our doing.

Just try to make the wheel float instead instead of rotate, or make it rotate with a bowl on top. The mind will instantly jump to rationalizations as to why it did not work. But think about it: specifically in situations where the movement of the wheel couldn't possibly have been caused by wind or other outside influences, the telekinesis stops working. Why do you think that is?

Guys, please try to stick to the topic. If you want to debate about open-mindedness I'll gladly split the thread and move the debate to ED or R/S. Any more posts derailing the thread will be deleted. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

With that said, about 'psi': I've been there, I even have the old psi-wheel, I understand very well how easy it is for one to get deluded into believing we're actually moving it. It really seems like it's our doing.

Just try to make the wheel float instead instead of rotate, or make it rotate with a bowl on top. The mind will instantly jump to rationalizations as to why it did not work. But think about it: specifically in situations where the movement of the wheel couldn't possibly have been caused by wind or other outside influences, the telekinesis stops working. Why do you think that is?

I just want to say first off, I think you are right most people are just psyching themselves out and something else is moving it...but if you are of the belief that telekinesis takes some kind of energy to work, then of course the glass would make it exponentially harder to spin.

Actually, Im not sure at all how telekinesis can work through a solid object if it is applying a force in any way...someone who is more in to the lore of telekinesis would have to explain this to me.

the levitation thing I feel similarly about since you would have to work against gravity for it. I would love to see some actual vids of that. Ive never really spent time on telekinesis that much.

Supposedly the telekinetic force isn't physical, having air or having glass between the user and the object shouldn't make a difference. A 'psi-wheel' is commonly very light, a force with enough intensity to make it spin would be enough to levitate it (even if just a bit) if applied from below, or at least it should be enough to knock the wheel of the pin.

But these were just examples, we can imagine plenty of others that would require the same force as rotating a psi-wheel for movement to be observed but wouldn't allow for outside influences.

indeed. It would be fun to be someone to actually do more than rotate it. If I were to ever succeed at that, and could replicate it, then I would have a much sterner belief in it.

but I wonder...how can something non-physical exert a force on something physical?

That question is vital to the subject but unanswerable seeing as we don't even have a clear definition of what "non-physical" means here. The term is used loosely to avoid the concepts it involves being refuted by physics.

For now, want to focus on lucid dreaming, grounding, astral projection, constructs and shielding.
You know the basics.

Originally Posted by tkdyo

but I wonder...how can something non-physical exert a force on something physical?

Power of belief. Doesn't it work that way in dreams and quantum particles. Just try it and stop arguing about whether the video is real or not. Skepticism is EXACTLY what prevents it from working. Critical thoughts is what prevents it from working. Meditation helps a lot in trying this.

Actually....a clear conscious mind is needed for it to even work at all. So if you don't practice meditation, there is no way in hell Psi is going to work for you.

It's hard to keep a steady visualization in your mind for a long time. Let alone visualize it becoming visible right in front of you. But practice makes perfect.

For the videos, I don't even see a reason why the videos would be fake, the guy isn't selling anything and actually gives you a FREE guide on how to do it.

Well actually, in response to that quote, psi is theorized to be an expansion of the nervous system. The thought is that if you can send a signal for your arm to move, then with enough thought, you can send a signal for a wheel (or anything else) to move.

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

Power of belief. Doesn't it work that way in dreams and quantum particles. Just try it and stop arguing about whether the video is real or not. Skepticism is EXACTLY what prevents it from working. Critical thoughts is what prevents it from working. Meditation helps a lot in trying this.

Actually....a clear conscious mind is needed for it to even work at all. So if you don't practice meditation, there is no way in hell Psi is going to work for you.

It's hard to keep a steady visualization in your mind for a long time. Let alone visualize it becoming visible right in front of you. But practice makes perfect.

well said