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      I hope this is the right place to put this. I heard that there are certain styles of meditation where you use visualization to do whatever. Some use it for healing themselves, like they picture their cancer and make up a spaceship or something and visualize themselves going in their own body and attacking it. Others use it simply to more or less dream while awake. I dont know the style of meditation it is, I know with meditation the goal is to simply clear your head and get in tune with yourself.

      But in that sense, is it possible to visualize sitting down with your subconscious mind (like make them in a human form) and talk to him/her and speak what your conscious mind wants to try and see if you can more or less hypnotize yourself. I think its possible, but I dont know how to go about doing it. So Im wondering if anyone here knows how to or has done it before and please let me know how to do it.

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      Let me get this straight... you want your subconcious to hypnotize you?

      You could try achieving an LD and searching for your DG i supose... but i don't know if he/she would hypnotize you. After all, what would you gain from being hypnotized? In a lucid dream that is.

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      No, what I meant when I brought up hypnosis is that in hypnosis, youre using your conscious mind to talk to your subconscious mind. Since its your subconscious mind that has made you who you really are. Like how people use hypnosis to stop smoking, it was more than likely your subconscious mind that made you start in the first place, or continue to smoke anyways. Since you control your conscious mind, people use hypnosis to communicate with their subconscious mind to help change habits like that. And no Im not trying to quit smoking, I did that 3 years ago. I just used hypnosis as an example.

      What I do want to do is more or less sit down with my subconscious mind and ask questions and make suggestions about my life. I thought about also trying to learn to lucid dream and make my subconsious into a dream guide or something and basically do the same thing. When I first heard about lucid dreaming, thats originally why I tried picking it up. But after experiencing more dreams from studying lucid dreaming, I realized Id rather try meditation with visualization than use my lucid dreams to more or less fix myself. I enjoy dreaming far too much to turn it into a session as opposed to a gift.
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      I see. Well, i'm sorry but i can't help you with that matter, but there's a high chance that someone here in DV will probably awnser your question correctly.

      If you can't use visualization to talk to your subconcious, stick to the dream guide idea. People say it's an enlightening moment and you'll eventually find him/her, even if you're not intently looking for him/her.

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      My DG was a trashy, 21yr old looking, kung fu student.

      That was outrageous. (Astonishing, really.)

      Now, for visualization techiques, it basically consists in calming down your physical senses and replacing them by your inner/imaginary/mental senses, so you can experience the specific situation related to your specific (or not) objective.

      It is also important to link the meaning of your action in your visualization to the elements within it, i.e. you can picture a target on a wall, with the distance between you and the wall being proportional to the difficulty that casts you aside from your objective. Then, you picture a dart in your hand. All you have to do is throw it and hit the 100 points mark on the target. The more mental strenght, courage, confidence, etc. you put on your dart, the easier and the better you hit the target.

      The thing is, it has to FEEL REAL. The more realistic you illustrate it in your mind, the more it affects you mind itself, which makes VERY IMPORTANT to have well trained inner senses for that matter.

      On the subject of contacting your subconscious, you'd simply need to manifest yourself somewhere else, a place you could call your own sanctuary, creating your inner temple would be a good choice. (a place with the intentions of prevent you from invading thoughts, you are the boss within your domain.) and simply call out to it, then it shall appear to you.

      Now if it goes wrong, then you'd have complicating and scrambling thoughts enough to make it so the connection doesn't work.

      Just be honest and deeply talk to yourself.
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      That would be awesome to be able to attain. I'll admit right now, Im actually a weak minded person, like my will power is nothing basically. Alot of times I tend to recite other peoples thoughts and try to pass them off as my own because I seem to not be able to come up with my own thoughts. Which is pretty damn sad. I am looking forward to change and to find out more or less as cliche as it may sound, who I truely am.

      Thats the reasoning behind me wanting to get into contact with my subconscious mind. Ive done enough studying on the theory of the subconscious mind to know that it will stop you from being a certain way to protect you, it gives you habits to slow you down or speed you up in life, etc. But I also know that you can change by getting into contact with it, I do believe that. I kind of believe in hypnosis, but I think the route I am trying to go is the best way to go. Like I said I want to know why I am the way I am now, then I want to express how I want to be and find out what the "true me" is really all about.

      I swear I am glad I found this place, because God knows if I told this to my friends or family, they would think I was psychotic or retarted.

      Also, in visualization, do you actually see clearly? Ive tried like all hell to imagine things and though I can get the feelings kind of, I cant really see anything and when something seems to start to fade in, it quickly goes out. The one thing I can do which might be weird is I can concentrate and I can hear others voices. Not in a crazy way, but like people that I talk to, friends and family, etc., I can concentrate and I can hear their voices pretty clearly. Im just wondering if I should go this route or if I should just go with the lucid dreaming route.
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      Quote Originally Posted by gan_nair View Post
      I hope this is the right place to put this. I heard that there are certain styles of meditation where you use visualization to do whatever. Some use it for healing themselves, like they picture their cancer and make up a spaceship or something and visualize themselves going in their own body and attacking it. Others use it simply to more or less dream while awake. I don't know the style of meditation it is, I know with meditation the goal is to simply clear your head and get in tune with yourself.

      But in that sense, is it possible to visualize sitting down with your subconscious mind (like make them in a human form) and talk to him/her and speak what your conscious mind wants to try and see if you can more or less hypnotize yourself. I think its possible, but I dont know how to go about doing it. So Im wondering if anyone here knows how to or has done it before and please let me know how to do it.
      Well, I honestly don't see the point in this considering you are in a LUCID DREAMING forum, but meh, what do I know anyway??

      Okay, so;
      Visualization is not a subject for the flamers nonbelievers. If you want it to work, you must believe in it. I don't feel like talking just randomly about it, however, so you may simply ask any question of me you may have.

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