Originally Posted by juroara
There's a great way to test the theories of skeptics. Ask someone of the same weight/height/muscular tone to reproduce these amazing feats. Can anyone do it just because they have the right 'physics'? I think the answer is no. I disagree with the skeptics. This isn't just about physical physics, there is a mental aspect to these amazing feats. That's why it's called mind over matter.
There's definitely a mental aspect, and when they learn/study that mental aspect, they use "chi" as a model. That model is the best way to learn the mental aspect. But there is a difference between your model of reality, and reality itself. The map is not the territory, as they say.
Your argument, however, is like saying "this guy knows how to drive... take someone of similar physical tone who has never driven and put him in a car, and according to the skeptics, he will immediately be able to drive the car." No, sorry, that falls flat. Just like driving a car, this is a skill to be learned.
Another example would be walking on hot coal. Skeptics also offered a great scientific argument that anyone can walk on hot coal and not get burned. The very same skeptics that offered this scientific argument however, were too chicken to try it, and it doesn't explain why so many tourists who go to these places where people walk on burning coal - get burned.
Who are these skeptics who are too chicken to try it? The scientific explanation is very, very sound. In what way is it not? Also, any asshole who goes to a tony robbins retreat walks on hot coals as part of it. The "mind over matter" aspect of walking on hot coal is the same mind of matter aspect of walking up to a girl and talking to her. Just have the balls to get over your irrational fears.
People get burned on hot coals when they stay in the same place for too long instead of continually moving.
Edit to add: I thought I'd look up firewalking for you, so you can judge for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewalking
Not only is the physical explanation perfectly sound, but so are the listed reasons for getting burned (the first of which is the one I outlined). Please point out the flaw in scientific reasoning on that article. Also, have you ever baked a cake? Why is it that you can touch the surface of the cake RIGHT after getting it out of the oven, and it only burns you if you leave your finger there too long? Must be that you're focusing your chi into your finger, eh?
Look, I'm not calling shenanigans on the legitimacy of the monks in the video. Those people have spent their lives honing their talents, and I have nothing but respect for them. I stand in awe of their skills. I'm calling shenanigans on the asshole talk show host who completely misunderstands all of what's going on, on all levels.
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