Yeah well I have only tried WBTB a couple times with no lucididty, but I am wondering how long I should really stay up? I am pretty sure it is mostly the journaling that has helped! Also, could you clarify what you mean about stepping up my awareness at the same time?! I am very faithful to the r.c.'s but have had no luck! Thanks so much for the class by the way, this is such a great idea.