Thread: Bemistaken's Workbook

July 2, 2016

Unusual dream...a black panther pulled a gun on me and I took him down. I wrestled and fought with the black panther until I was able to disarm the creature and I killed it. I was happy, yet I knew something was wrong with the situation of fighting a black panther (I should have gotten lucid here). My emotions took over me in the dream and I was just happy that I didn't get shot .

Hey, just dropping by to thank you for the nice words and to say that you are amazing!

Every single time that I see you post here no matter how my day went, you put a smile on my face.

July 19, 2016
Total Sleep Time: none
Meditation: 4-5 times a week for at least 45 minutes
Exercise: Running 45-60 minutes 5 times a week (down to 135 lbs!)
Method: Had no intent in using a method during my nap
Results: WILD

I was so sleepy today and I decided to lay down for a nap. As soon as my head hit the bed I felt the weakest of a vibration. Not too unusual because I can feel myself vibrate just about doing anything (watching TV, on the phone, reading). When I'm doing an activity the vibes are very weak and slightly noticeable. Anyway, I felt the weak vibe and I thought, "I wonder..." I concentrated on my third-eye and the vibrations became stronger and stronger. A couple of times I felt myself trying too hard and the vibes would go away. When this happened, I would release the tension I had on my third-eye and go back to relaxing my physical body and the vibes automatically would return.

For a moment, I heard children laughing but I wasn't going to fall for this (we have kids next door, but I just treated this as the regular 'noise' we should all ignore). So, I tried to intensify the vibes with my third-eye again and I felt myself trying to wiggle out but I couldn't. I knew I was close...so I just kept calm, relaxed my body, waited for my vibes, concentrated on third-eye and...I was out. I came out in a way I never had before...crucifixion style. My physical body was laying on my left side, but I rose out of my body face up, crucifixion style with both of my arms stretch out on either side and I was standing straight up! It was so beautiful! I came out in the dark and was so happy that I just wandered in the dark with my arms still stretched out (I forgot to call out for light). I wanted to see so right when I was going to ask for sight my cell phone ranged...damn it! Normally I turn everything off and go to my lucid hide out where I can't hear nothing (no technology allowed and I can't hear any noise from the outside). I only laid down in my bedroom because I 'thought' I was going to just rest my eyes. Oh well, a lucid is a lucid and how neat this one was to come out positioned like that?! Thanks Lucy! You always surprise me.

Always grateful...always humble.
Bemistaken.

P.S. I think I found my rhythm for my WILDs

1. Lay down and go to sleep (for me I must get at least 6.5-7 hours of sleep, but I have slept as long as 8 hours with a WBTB and was still able to get lucid)
2. WBTB and stay up for at least 55-60 minutes
3. Lay back down
4. Place my intent on staying slightly awake (personally, for me this means feeling my body fall back to sleep. Again, for me, I personally have vibrations as my clue and/or I can feel my body feel like a heavy blanket just laid on top of me and I know I'm close).
5. Concentrate on my third-eye
6. Use an exit method to come out
7. Stabilize dream and don't forget to ask for light if I'm in the dark

This seems to work for me every time when I WILD and I hope it helps someone else. Remember, everyone of us is different and just because some of these things happen and work for me doesn't necessarily mean that it will work for you. It has taken me around 2-3 years to truly come up with a good WBTB time and understand that I need a lot of sleep before I even attempt. So continue to practice, practice, practice, and whatever you do...DON'T GIVE UP!

One Love.

Congrats on the awesome WILD!

Very interesting about your daytime vibes. Are they similar to wild vibes then but just weaker in intensity? When did you start experiencing them /or noticing them?

Originally Posted by NyxCC

Congrats on the awesome WILD!

Very interesting about your daytime vibes. Are they similar to wild vibes then but just weaker in intensity? When did you start experiencing them /or noticing them?

Hello Lovely!
To answer your question...my daytime vibes are weaker in intensity. I'll try to explain in a short version. Before I joined DV, I didn't even know what 'vibes' were. Since I was young, I would be waken out of my sleep with vibes so strong I felt like I was being shook straight out of my body...like electricity and the sound of very loud buzzing. The vibes and buzzing have always been with me. So if I'm partially sleep or sleep, the vibrations are very intense and I just hold on for dear life until eventually...I pop (or float) out.

Since I have been learning so much from being a member here, I have learned to pay attention to everything including my body. I have noticed that just around last year during the day, I can feel myself 'tingle.' The tingling can range from ever so slight to pretty noticeable. When I realize that I'm tingling, I'm never around anyone. If my husband or sons are home and I'm up by myself with my insomnia watching TV, I can feel myself tingling from head to toe...but again I'm still by myself. I can never feel my vibes (or tingles) if there are a lot of people around me.

I don't know if this is normal (maybe you can help me) but I can make myself vibrate without me even being nowhere near sleep. Just like I'm typing right now, I can concentrate on my third-eye and within one blink of my eyes I can feel the vibes. If I choose to bring on vibes while fully alert, they are soft, but if I continue to concentrate they grow stronger...but I'm still alert and it will take awhile because I have to get to a point where my body is relaxed. If I try this when I meditate and go into a deep enough trance, I will WILD.

My question to you is...is this normal? Like something natural and normal body stuff that can be explained or is this abnormal?

Any information is helpful and thanks for your questions!

Hi you two NyxCC's vibes question showed up in my profile activity and caught my interest. I really don't know the answer to your question, but I can bring on very weak vibrations during the day with some effort and I have noticed vibrations and their connection to dreaming since I started lucid dreaming in adulthood. It seems that the vibrations while in bed are connected to how close I am to dreaming and I can sometimes intensify them to enter a dream but I am not very good at that yet. I don't know if that helps at all.

Originally Posted by fogelbise

Hi you two NyxCC's vibes question showed up in my profile activity and caught my interest. I really don't know the answer to your question, but I can bring on very weak vibrations during the day with some effort and I have noticed vibrations and their connection to dreaming since I started lucid dreaming in adulthood. It seems that the vibrations while in bed are connected to how close I am to dreaming and I can sometimes intensify them to enter a dream but I am not very good at that yet. I don't know if that helps at all.

Thank you Fogelbise! Yes, and any additional information I can hear on this topic to research is always a help! Thanks again!

Originally Posted by bemistaken

My question to you is...is this normal? Like something natural and normal body stuff that can be explained or is this abnormal?

Any information is helpful and thanks for your questions!

Before any elaborations I would love to answer your question with your own signature quote.

In addition, I think it's pretty fair to assume that your lucid dreaming practices have strenghtened your ability to feel and induce these sensations - especially since they were accompanying sleep so often already. And now you are able to activate these even in the waking state, but as you mentioned it happens in state of relaxation. I find this really exciting.

By the way, my own experiences with light tingling during the day come mainly from focusing on the crown chakra. I usually don't get these when falling asleep (plus I am still more of a DILDer) but there's definitely plenty to explore regarding using the crown chakra or third eye chakra as focus points when falling asleep or to induce vibrations and follow with wild.

Fogelbise, thanks for sharing your experiences on this!

July 27, 2016
Meditation Session: 45 minutes
Method: WILD
Exercise: Still running 4-5 times a week...have increase time from 45min to 60 min.

Felt vey tired after doing a lot of work on my computer and needed to lay down to rest my eyes. I remember the last time I said I was going to 'rest my eyes' I ended up doing a WILD. So I set my intent to do the same thing...


As soon as I laid down I could feel slight tingling from head to toe. I remained calm and tried to make my body go limp. This was hard because every time I went limp I would almost go to sleep. I would jolt myself out of it and had to go through the motions all over again. After around 15 minutes I felt a 'swoosh' of imaginary wind go across my body and the vibes were not far away. This transition was a little different because I really didn't feel myself come out like I usually do. I just looked around my bedroom and realized I had already came out. I believe maybe that imaginary wind may have been my transition instead of the vibes. That's why I can't rely on vibrations and they really should be ignored like the teachers on DV tell me. Lately I have been talking a lot about my experience with vibrations, so I believe that I will just look at vibrations as a sign...not necessarily that I'm close to being lucid (because in this situation, I believe I already was), but just as it is...a sign. Anyway, I thought it would be neat to document this type of transition just for my record book.

BTW, nothing important or fancy happened while I was out (even though it doesn't have to, just happy to get a lucid), just wanted to document this type of transition for myself.

Always humble...always grateful.
Bemistaken

July 30, 2016
Meditation Session: 55 minutes
Trying something New: Focus on third-eye after every other breath
Method: MILD, WBTB
Time WBTB: 45 minutes
Exercise: Ran 60 minutes that evening
Results WILD and DEILDx2
Total sleep time: 7.5-8 (ish) hours

I did my WBTB for around 45 minutes after sleeping approximately 7.5 hours. My husband was in the bed and my 'lucid hangout' (spare bedroom or the couch) was taken because both of my grown ass sons had come home to visit. I tried to just lay there in the dark and focus on relaxation and good positive energy and I knew this was difficult because my husband snores and moves a lot in his sleep. I truly didn't have anywhere to go and be by myself so I sucked it up and took the situation for what it was. Trying to get lucid with my husband in bed is never easy for me, but I thought since I came this far I should be able to teach myself another person should not interfere...but he kept interfering (touching me, stoking my arm...yea, you know where this is going). I told him "Not now, later." He knows that is code for, "Get the f#ck off of me, I'm trying to go back to sleep and get lucid! I only have a small window of time where this can work!" He understood and rolled as far away from me that he could get to while aggressively throwing the covers over him (yea he was mad, but I will make it up to him ).

Anyway, this is when the magic happened:

While in my third eye concentration phase, I remember my vibes came on very, very strong. I popped out feeling like I was peeled from a boiled egg. Before I could think about what I wanted to do, a strong wind had blown me up into the sky. Usually when I want to fly there is a process. My process is to think about flying, strike a superman pose, and off I go. This time I was not thinking about flying...I was just flying in a bright sky all of the sudden. This is where it gets weird...as I was flying, flowers were flying next to me in an almost geese formation...flapping around and everything. I stared at the flower thinking how they remind me of Magnolias (after all, I do live in the south). The flowers even had the thick green leaves still attached to them as they used these leaves as wings. If I slowed down, they slowed down, if I sped up, they sped up. I was losing lucid energy and found myself back in my body and I DEILD out again. The flying flowers were gone (of course) and I guess that disappointment made me go back in my physical body so I DEILD out again. I knew this was my last shot so I just thought about summoning my spiritual guide from real life. Anyone that knows me know that I'm not that great with summoning but I didn't let that stop me. I called his name and I did manage to summon a shadowy figure of someone holding out his arm...then I woke up. I can't say that is was my waking life spiritual guide, but I felt no fear. I believe that if I would have had more lucid energy I could have seen who it was. During the third DEILD, my clarity seems to get worse so instead of everything being clear, it seems to turn grey and not too long after this I will be in a pitch black void.

I looked around to be sure I was back in my bedroom and there was no need for a reality check...my husband was all up on me. Sigh...I truly wanted to cuss him out.

Always humble and always grateful.
Bemistaken

August 14, 2016
Method: MILD, WBTB
Time WBTB: 40 (ish) minutes
Exercise: Walk 45 minutes
Results: WILD and DEILDx2
Total sleep time: 8-9 (ish) hours

Went through the process of setting intent on WILDing this morning. Had a good nights rest and did a WBTB...I could barely hold my eyes open, but I forced myself to stay up with my unusually long WBTB timeframe of at least 45 minutes. By the time 45 minutes had past, I was nodding off and moderately vibrating as soon as my head hit the pillow. I forced myself to stay alert as I concentrated on my third eye...within seconds I was successfully 'out.' I recalled seeing myself as someone else (same mind but I had a different funny looking body). I was on a cruise ship getting ready to go up or down some stairs. I ended up back in my physical body and I was able to DIELD myself back out. I found myself still on the cruise ship and I passed by a mirror that 'just happened to appear out of no where.' I wanted to see how I looked in a mirror because I hadn't done this task in a while.

Three strange things were happening all at once. I felt like I was in 'first, second, and third person' in unison. First, I felt myself thinking and being as a third person. Second, I was looking at my physical self in the mirror and I felt my physical self pose in the mirror. Not only did I see an image of me in the mirror (the one where I was 'me' in mind but not in body), but then I saw something else. Third, I saw another image...something was 'floating' above my right shoulder but I couldn't make out what it was. It gets even stranger...the entity didn't have a face or shape, but I felt that it was in communication with me. I know this sounds ridiculous but it is the only way I can explain whatever it was that I saw. There was no shape, face, or even color...but something was moving on top of my right shoulder in the mirror. I could see it, almost like an outline of something that was alive. It was friendly and communicating with me on a spiritual level. The entity's size was about as large as a grapefruit but no smaller than an orange...it was floating just like a feather.

In a flash I was back in my physical body...I DEILD back out but my mental strength was shot and I couldn't hold it together and lost lucidity. No problem, always grateful and always humble...for the three of me.

I think about life and what happens after this lifetime a lot...always have. I have always questioned my reality. Why are we here? Who am I? Are we more than this? As a child I would allow my mind to wonder to places deep inside my imagination. As I grew older, it became a little more difficult to use my imagination. Why is that so? I guess because as an adult I allow my waking life to suck up any and all mental space I may have left. Family, work, school, people, behaviors, responsibilities...so much to do and so little time. I have no idea how certain thoughts get into my head. I often say to myself, "Where did that thought come from?" I realize these thoughts that pop out of no where must come from 'somewhere' and all I know is that I want to go to that 'somewhere.'

Last night I told myself that I have been working on finding my process for obtaining lucidity for some time now. I feel like I am now understanding my process, however; I don't understand lucidity. In other words, I can get lucid but I don't understand the pure essence of lucidity. Sure I have read DV and other resources about what I can do and sure I have challenge myself with a few tasks...but I'm talking about something totally different here. There is something that cannot be explained...there is something MORE.

During my MILD last night I told myself that I will continue to follow my process but I will stop setting limits on myself. Stop wishing to just get lucid and that's it...I just can't do that anymore. I am not doing my body, mind, and spirit any justice by getting just 'lucid.' I AM MORE THAN THIS. Instead of trying to get lucid I will set my goal at allowing myself to experience what lucidity means to me. Not focusing so much on what I can do, but rather on understanding the essence of being in the experience.

No more wondering, "Why can't I get lucid?" Now the question is, "Why can I?"



*Side Note
After doing a MILD with all of the above information still on my mind I woke up to vibrations so strong I thought we were having an earthquake. I was sleep and really don't remember a dream, but I will call this one a DILD. I remembered what I said to myself before I fell asleep (about experiencing and just being in the lucid) and I just stayed calm and still. Nothing fascinating to report except I felt peace and freedom...which is fascinating enough for me.

Always humble and always grateful.
Bemistaken

Those are some nice thoughts. I have often pondered the same questions. I still wonder. Keep seeking, my friend.