Thread: My quest for lucidity

Fear of SP ?
Use DILD then. But SP isn't something to fear, it will be scary if you choose it to.

Originally Posted by monkeydude

I've been very interested in Lucid dreaming lately, and as far as i remember i have only tried it twice, on random occasions. First time was extremely short, and second time was a very bizarre dream after i had smoked some weed at a party.

I really want to learn how to do it on command, but i fear sleep paralysis. It is the only thing making me not want to try the methods out.

Can anyone help me out?

First of all welcome to DV, the first step to LDing is not to be afraid of anything because basically there is nothing to fear from .
If you just "dont like' to WILD and getting into sleep paralysis then you can use any other technique like MILD ( recommended ) . MILD is a technique in which you keep saying to yourself while on bed "Am gonna have a lucid dream, and am gonna be aware of it", its also recommended to do the techniques after WBTB .
For the WILD technique, honestly I did it once and got SPed,It was the most wonderful feeling I've ever had since years ! but the problem is I can't do it easily because of my messy bed times which affects my physicality and mentality , although its one of the easiest techniques ever and you can see that from members' post allover the forum .
My advice is to go on WILD without thinking a bit, for many reasons, mostly because you do guarantee to get in a LD easily and you gonna have almost 100% dream recall when you wake up, forget about that scary stuff, all are hallucinations from the subconscious mind which you can control it .

The only thing to fear about sleep paralysis is fear itself.

For one, it's only scary if you believe it will be.
For two, it's not absolutely necessary to go into SP, even during a WILD (Some people do, some don't.)
For three, you go into sleep paralysis (Normally) every single time you go to sleep and nothing bad has happened yet, why would being conscious change that?

So don't let misconceptions about SP hold you back from lucid dreaming. Chances are, you won't even need to go through it, and even if you do, it's easy street to a lucid dream so it's actually a GOOD thing if you're after lucid dreaming.

Anywho, with that said, check the wiki, read the tutorials (DILD, DEILD, and WBTB are common entry level LD techniques.) and make sure you're keeping a dream journal (No sense in lucid dreaming if you can't remember it.)

Dream recall is the most important first step, so work on that with a journal as your top priority.

Hmmm...
I don't fear sleep paralasis and want to do it (and ignoring the whole problem of acctually getting SP) but I wouldn't mind the scare of the SP, but since I don't fear it then I probably won't get it bad then.
Is that the truth?

Originally Posted by Lunaticus

Hmmm...
I don't fear sleep paralasis and want to do it (and ignoring the whole problem of acctually getting SP) but I wouldn't mind the scare of the SP, but since I don't fear it then I probably won't get it bad then.
Is that the truth?

Yes, just focus on doing it and nothing else

Originally Posted by Shiznit

First of all welcome to DV, the first step to LDing is not to be afraid of anything because basically there is nothing to fear from .
If you just "dont like' to WILD and getting into sleep paralysis then you can use any other technique like MILD ( recommended ) . MILD is a technique in which you keep saying to yourself while on bed "Am gonna have a lucid dream, and am gonna be aware of it", its also recommended to do the techniques after WBTB .
For the WILD technique, honestly I did it once and got SPed,It was the most wonderful feeling I've ever had since years ! but the problem is I can't do it easily because of my messy bed times which affects my physicality and mentality , although its one of the easiest techniques ever and you can see that from members' post allover the forum .
My advice is to go on WILD without thinking a bit, for many reasons, mostly because you do guarantee to get in a LD easily and you gonna have almost 100% dream recall when you wake up, forget about that scary stuff, all are hallucinations from the subconscious mind which you can control it .

Originally Posted by Brunor2

Fear of SP ?
Use DILD then. But SP isn't something to fear, it will be scary if you choose it to.

Originally Posted by ZedCa

The only thing to fear about sleep paralysis is fear itself.

For one, it's only scary if you believe it will be.
For two, it's not absolutely necessary to go into SP, even during a WILD (Some people do, some don't.)
For three, you go into sleep paralysis (Normally) every single time you go to sleep and nothing bad has happened yet, why would being conscious change that?

So don't let misconceptions about SP hold you back from lucid dreaming. Chances are, you won't even need to go through it, and even if you do, it's easy street to a lucid dream so it's actually a GOOD thing if you're after lucid dreaming.

Anywho, with that said, check the wiki, read the tutorials (DILD, DEILD, and WBTB are common entry level LD techniques.) and make sure you're keeping a dream journal (No sense in lucid dreaming if you can't remember it.)

Dream recall is the most important first step, so work on that with a journal as your top priority.

Thank you for your answers.

I do know that there is nothing to fear about SP, but i don't think i can make myself think that if i were to encounter it. I can even become somewhat paranoid by just being in a dark room.

Originally Posted by monkeydude

Thank you for your answers.

I do know that there is nothing to fear about SP, but i don't think i can make myself think that if i were to encounter it. I can even become somewhat paranoid by just being in a dark room.

If the problem is that you fear darkness then it got nothing to do with SP, you're not encountering it but your imagination does, its even embarrassing to tell that you are afraid of darkness, simply because nothing is happening there but a bunch of brain Bullshit taken from movies, stories or whatever . In simpler words, you're smarter than your imagination so you can easily control your fear, if you didn't control your fear now you can't control it then . I hope that SP is a good reason to start now .

Does anyone have a good mantra for MILD?
I will try it out tonight and post results tomorrow.

Originally Posted by monkeydude

Does anyone have a good mantra for MILD?
I will try it out tonight and post results tomorrow.

I do use MILD , This technique depends mostly on contacting your brain "ordering" him to make a lucid dream using motivational words or just normal ones like : "Am gonna have a lucid dream, and am gonna be aware of that " ( my favorite quote ) or add " And I will do RCs" or motivational like : " Am Gonna have a lucid dream , and am gonna be happy after waking up" . Try to makes this sound louder in your brain, because once you go deeper in sleeping the sound dramatically goes down, so you will guarantee that the sound will be in your head until you sleep.
The best time to do a MILD is after the WBTB technique, sleeping for 5-6 hours, stay awake for 30 - 60 mins ( reading something about lucid dreaming in that time will help attaining a LD ) and then get back to sleep using the MILD . Its recommended to keep away from the bed during the wake time . If you didn't feel like you wanna sleep at all, like keep yourself in bed for an hour and you dont feel like sleeping, try to reduce the sleeping time and waking time .
Good luck .

Originally Posted by Shiznit

I do use MILD , This technique depends mostly on contacting your brain "ordering" him to make a lucid dream using motivational words or just normal ones like : "Am gonna have a lucid dream, and am gonna be aware of that " ( my favorite quote ) or add " And I will do RCs" or motivational like : " Am Gonna have a lucid dream , and am gonna be happy after waking up" . Try to makes this sound louder in your brain, because once you go deeper in sleeping the sound dramatically goes down, so you will guarantee that the sound will be in your head until you sleep.
The best time to do a MILD is after the WBTB technique, sleeping for 5-6 hours, stay awake for 30 - 60 mins ( reading something about lucid dreaming in that time will help attaining a LD ) and then get back to sleep using the MILD . Its recommended to keep away from the bed during the wake time . If you didn't feel like you wanna sleep at all, like keep yourself in bed for an hour and you dont feel like sleeping, try to reduce the sleeping time and waking time .
Good luck .

Might try that method sometime, but i don't know if it will work (My sleeping habits aren't too good)
If possible i will just try MILD today with the mantra suggestions you posted. Hopefully it will work, but i won't get hyped too much.

Originally Posted by Shiznit

First of all welcome to DV, the first step to LDing is not to be afraid of anything because basically there is nothing to fear from .
If you just "dont like' to WILD and getting into sleep paralysis then you can use any other technique like MILD ( recommended ) . MILD is a technique in which you keep saying to yourself while on bed "Am gonna have a lucid dream, and am gonna be aware of it", its also recommended to do the techniques after WBTB .
For the WILD technique, honestly I did it once and got SPed,It was the most wonderful feeling I've ever had since years ! but the problem is I can't do it easily because of my messy bed times which affects my physicality and mentality , although its one of the easiest techniques ever and you can see that from members' post allover the forum .
My advice is to go on WILD without thinking a bit, for many reasons, mostly because you do guarantee to get in a LD easily and you gonna have almost 100% dream recall when you wake up, forget about that scary stuff, all are hallucinations from the subconscious mind which you can control it .

I think you need to do a little more reasearch before you try to give people help. ( i dont mean this to sound rude)

MILD us not just laying down telling yourself something. There is so much more than that. Check out this post for more informaton on MILD. http://www.dreamviews.com/f32/beginner-mild-technique-90-days-99977/index5.html#post1516951

WILD Can be kind of scary. Although it is probably the hardest technique to do (for most people). I NEVER reccomend WILD to a beginner.

DEILD is my technique that im best at. Its used like a WILD but without the SP. I recommend this to thoose that has little success with MILD and/or DILD

MSG me with any and all questions

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

I think you need to do a little more reasearch before you try to give people help. ( i dont mean this to sound rude)

MILD us not just laying down telling yourself something. There is so much more than that. Check out this post for more informaton on MILD.
WILD Can be kind of scary. Although it is probably the hardest technique to do (for most people). I NEVER reccomend WILD to a beginner.

DEILD is my technique that im best at. Its used like a WILD but without the SP. I recommend this to thoose that has little success with MILD and/or DILD

MSG me with any and all questions

Links isn't working.
Is DEILD easier than MILD for beginners?

Sleep paralysis isn't that scary. I actually learned to ignore it.

I also have a question about dream journals.
Is it important to keep one?
I know i would have a hard time having one, since i don't dream that often (Or can recall what i dreamt about). If i can remember my dream it is really "foggy".

Well, you don't really need one if you don't want too. But it will help you memorize your dreams the more you right in it. Just right down as much as you remember and you will soon remember your dreams more clearly and there will be more detail in your LDs.

Originally Posted by Kolten

Well, you don't really need one if you don't want too. But it will help you memorize your dreams the more you right in it. Just right down as much as you remember and you will soon remember your dreams more clearly and there will be more detail in your LDs.

Sweet. Is it possible to revisit dreams even though you don't remember much of them?
Will my subconsciousness know how the dream was?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can. If I remember correctly I think I have done it before.

Dream journals drastically help your recall. I recomend this 100%

here is the link again. Hope it works.

http://www.dreamviews.com/f32/beginn...ml#post1516951

And MILD is keasier than DEILD. But DEILD is more reliable (IMO)

But use DILD or MILD at first.

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

I think you need to do a little more reasearch before you try to give people help. ( i dont mean this to sound rude)

MILD us not just laying down telling yourself something. There is so much more than that. Check out this post for more informaton on MILD. http://www.dreamviews.com/f32/beginner-mild-technique-90-days-99977/index5.html#post1516951

WILD Can be kind of scary. Although it is probably the hardest technique to do (for most people). I NEVER reccomend WILD to a beginner.

DEILD is my technique that im best at. Its used like a WILD but without the SP. I recommend this to thoose that has little success with MILD and/or DILD

MSG me with any and all questions

Its fine Dakota.
I was trying to simplify the MILD to the easiest , honestly its almost hard for me and my other friends to remember to say the mantra all the time , so we uses it just before sleeping and it does work

im not saying dont use it im saying to not call it MILD.

So this is what i'm going to do (What i learned so far):
I will be using the MILD method.
When i go to bed i will completely clear my mind of thoughts and relax.
I will then repeat my mantra in my head (i will just try to recall dream(s) since i'm not too good at that)
And hopefully this should work.

From then on i will try using the tips in the link dakotahnok posted (daydreaming, multiple mantras).

Also, i will keep a DJ on my iPhone (Just bought an app) to strengthen the vividness and make me recall my dreams better.

At some point i might try WBTB combined with MILD but i think i will need some practice before trying that out.

Alright. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Brunor2

Fear of SP ?
Use DILD then. But SP isn't something to fear, it will be scary if you choose it to.

From what I have read about SP it can be scary if it happens without you trying to do it, but if your intentions when you are attempting to go into SP are to LD, then your mind will be focused on that and the scary parts of it usually don't happen. Also, if you start to freak out I also read that if you change your breathing from your normal sleep breathing to something else you will come out of it in 10-15 seconds. You can control things like your breathing or your mouth while in SP so just do something different and your body will realize that your mind is awake. At least that's what I have read. I have failed to actually obtain SP on my own so I can't really speak from experience.

Alright.
Didn't get the best results.
I naturally woke after 5 hours of sleep but i couldn't remember any dream, and i didn't even think about trying WBTB, since i was pretty tired.
I believe that i lost focus of my mantra when i first went to bed, and this caused that i really couldn't remember anything.

I will try the same again tonight, but i will try to focus more.