Thread: What does this mean??? HELP!?!?!?

Have you been trying to have lucid dreams? Because what you describe sounds a lot like a common effect of a WILD. Or to be more precise, it sounds like the kind of WILDs caused by taking Galantamine. That's a supplement originally made to help Alzheimer's patients, that has been found to cause what's described on the label as "strange and vivid dreams", but which in actual fact are quite often lucid dreams. I've used it several times and the dreams it gives me are very similar to the ones you've described - I can barely walk right, I feel drugged or drunk, I sometimes find myself just sitting or laying in a weird sort of distorted position listlessly, as if I'm in some sort of a coma, and it seems like I sometimes just stay there for a long time staring at a section of the wall in front of me or something. Sometimes I have a sense of urgency, which I think I'd call more of an anxiety - because I'm semi-lucid, but not enough to fully understand what's going on, and I feel really weird about the terrible predicament I seem to be in that makes me into a clumsy shuffling zombie. And I do sometimes feel tired afterwards, as if I was working out like you said.

I've never experienced a WILD without using Galantamine (in fact, actually even my Galantamine dreams have been DILDs come to think of it, but I think they share some very WILD-like characteristics) - so I can't say if a regular WILD would have the same characteristics, but it seems like I've read somewhere that they can.

These could be some kind of anxiety nightmares that are making you semi-lucid (nightmares often do that, they sort of scare you half awake). Have you been experiencing a lot of stress lately in your life? Or taking some kind of medication?

Dreams most of the time are strong projections of sentiments mostly desire and fear.
So maybe the current state of your life is,or a potential for a situation like this(not literally drugged)
generates a sentiment of anxiety or inability to move in your sleep.
Which your dreams translates like that.

If this is recurring and every night, i am afraid someone is controlling your dreams and you're becoming weak in them. You say you feel something is urgent and you need to get to someone/somewhere, you're probably trying to find who is doing this in your dreams. If you find any kind of intrusion or enemy please do whatever to fight ok? you need to do this so you can have better dreams after. goodluck.

Nah don't worry so much.
The target of control is for a person not to be aware of it.
Sometimes when work is getting done by the self on the etheric,mind is shutting down the kinetic centre.
Instead of fighting it calm down and let it go through you.
Trust my words and don't worry.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Have you been trying to have lucid dreams? Because what you describe sounds a lot like a common effect of a WILD. Or to be more precise, it sounds like the kind of WILDs caused by taking Galantamine. That's a supplement originally made to help Alzheimer's patients, that has been found to cause what's described on the label as "strange and vivid dreams", but which in actual fact are quite often lucid dreams. I've used it several times and the dreams it gives me are very similar to the ones you've described - I can barely walk right, I feel drugged or drunk, I sometimes find myself just sitting or laying in a weird sort of distorted position listlessly, as if I'm in some sort of a coma, and it seems like I sometimes just stay there for a long time staring at a section of the wall in front of me or something. Sometimes I have a sense of urgency, which I think I'd call more of an anxiety - because I'm semi-lucid, but not enough to fully understand what's going on, and I feel really weird about the terrible predicament I seem to be in that makes me into a clumsy shuffling zombie. And I do sometimes feel tired afterwards, as if I was working out like you said.

I've never experienced a WILD without using Galantamine (in fact, actually even my Galantamine dreams have been DILDs come to think of it, but I think they share some very WILD-like characteristics) - so I can't say if a regular WILD would have the same characteristics, but it seems like I've read somewhere that they can.

These could be some kind of anxiety nightmares that are making you semi-lucid (nightmares often do that, they sort of scare you half awake). Have you been experiencing a lot of stress lately in your life? Or taking some kind of medication?

Honestly, I dont have many dreams since 96' Ive had maybe 6-7 in the past 15 years. Im not sure what a lucid dream or a WILD is. All I know is every dream Ive had...I remember every detail. Every dream I have, I know Im in a dream and Im always in my own body. but until recently Ive been having them to where I cant control my body like I usually could. (the drugged feeling) I spoke to my mom about it, and she acted as if she has them as well and it was normal. idk. I occasionally take Melatonin at night to help relax. but thats it.

btw, Ive looked up what a WILD is and a LD and I can honestly say every dream Ive ever had was an LD...I have WILDS quite often as well..one question, can you habe a WILD that turns into an LD?

Hi mamabear, welcome to Dreamviews!

Since you say all your dreams are lucid, I would suggest to read through some of the tutorials and articles in DV Wiki, especially about dream control, stabilization and practicing daytime awareness. You can compare notes and figure out, what it is you having and how to make it better.

WILD is a technique to get a lucid dream, and also lucid dream you get by this technique. Hope this helps

Originally Posted by mamabear

btw, Ive looked up what a WILD is and a LD and I can honestly say every dream Ive ever had was an LD...I have WILDS quite often as well..one question, can you habe a WILD that turns into an LD?

The term WILD stands for Wake Induced Lucid Dream - it's actually a technique for going directly from a waking state into a lucid dream - of staying aware as your body slips into sleep and you watch a dream take form around you and you're lucid right from the start.

When people say they "don't have dreams" what it really means is they simply don't remember their dreams. Everyone dreams many times every night. You go into REM (rapid eye movement) approximately every 90 minutes while you're alseep, and during REM is when most dreams occur (at least the ones we normally think of as dreams).

In your case it sounds like some of your dreams are lucid, in which you know you're dreaming, and these seem to be the only ones you remember. That's understandable, since lucid dreams tend to be much more vivid than regular dreams (usually), and more memorable.

I'd say, if lately your lucid dreams are tiring you out and you find it difficult to walk around in them and are overcome with a sense of urgency to accomplish something that you simply can't because your dream body is weak and 'drugged', you probably should learn about lucid dreams and how to work with them (as Gab suggested). You could either learn to take control and make the dreams do what you want them to, or learn how to exit from them into either waking up or into regular sleep. There's a lot of great information all over this board about it - definitely look at a lot of tutorials - but I recommend getting a book called Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Dr. Steven LaBerge. The book collects a lot of science and research and personal experience (LaBerge is an accomplished lucid dreamer), and it's written very clearly and doesn't veer off into mystical or spiritual tangents (like many conversations in here can do - not all, but it does happen). Just about everyone who's read the book recommend it as the best starting place for learning about lucid dreaming.

Sounds to me like you are experiencing sleep paralysis. Without it you would be acting out your dreams. Some people, especially when you are attempting WILD, wake up still in the sleep paralysis state. Making it impossible to move. You can break sleep paralysis by wiggling your fingers, arms, and eventually your entire body. SP is nothing to be afraid up, any hallucinations you might have can not harm you but can look pretty scary.

Yes i agree you need to learn the dream control technique, all you got to do is practise always. Best way is to meditate in dreams once you know how to meditate in real life. Once you do this, it will work wonders. Read meditation books, yoga anything to help you. Goodluck

Sleep paralysis - that's an interesting idea. But isn't it only called sleep paralysis when you wake up and are still unable to move and sort of 'dreaming while awake'? I mean, it actually happens every time you're in REM - normally though it's called REM Atonia (its the complete slackening of the body's muscles) and if a person wakes up still in this state then it's called sleep paralysis.

I've experienced SP a couple of times when I was young, and it was different from what she's describing. When I was in SP I was basically laying in my bed awake but couldn't move, and I was seeing my room around me, but there were things there that weren't real and that were moving around - sort of like dream elements overlaid over my actual view of my room. It was sort of like I was getting mixed signals - the actual view from my eyes was entering my brain, but at the same time my brain was also producing dreamlike illusions mixed in with what I was seeing. Incidentally a lot of alien visitation stories are thought to actually be sleep paralysis episodes - isn't it ironic how many of them begin with a person 'waking up' and discovering strange little creatures standing around their bed doing weird things to them?

When work is getting done by yourself in the etheric you don't realize because it happens in your sleep.
I believe that is the case.
The reason that you're waking up so tired is because this type of process demands huge amounts of energy.
And that explains the tireness.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Sleep paralysis - that's an interesting idea. But isn't it only called sleep paralysis when you wake up and are still unable to move and sort of 'dreaming while awake'? I mean, it actually happens every time you're in REM - normally though it's called REM Atonia (its the complete slackening of the body's muscles) and if a person wakes up still in this state then it's called sleep paralysis.

I've experienced SP a couple of times when I was young, and it was different from what she's describing. When I was in SP I was basically laying in my bed awake but couldn't move, and I was seeing my room around me, but there were things there that weren't real and that were moving around - sort of like dream elements overlaid over my actual view of my room. It was sort of like I was getting mixed signals - the actual view from my eyes was entering my brain, but at the same time my brain was also producing dreamlike illusions mixed in with what I was seeing. Incidentally a lot of alien visitation stories are thought to actually be sleep paralysis episodes - isn't it ironic how many of them begin with a person 'waking up' and discovering strange little creatures standing around their bed doing weird things to them?

You are 100% correct. I think I just mis understood the op. Because now that I re-read it I think my post sounds dumb. Maybe that was meant to be posted on another thread? Haha, anyway your post are spot on. Exactly what I would say to the OP.

It could be the melatonin. The way melatonin works is it suppresses REM sleep for the first part of the night - maybe a couple of hours. The mind and body need REM - if you don't get enough of it that can make you wake feeling tired. Not getting enough REM in the first part of the night causes an effect called REM Rebound, where your body 'tries to make up for it' by having extra REM (and extra dreams) in the later part of sleep. But it's important that you get enough sleep for this to happen, otherwise you're simply denying yourself enough REM sleep, which is not good.

How much sleep do you usually get? And how many miligrams of melatonin do you take? For some crazy reason most manufacturers put way too much into a dose - in fact it's often recommended that you cut the pill into peices and only take a fragment of it. And after taking it you should get a lot of sleep - like a good 8 hours, otherwise you're not getting the REM sleep you need to be healthy. Melatonin deprives you of REM for a few hours (I can look up the details if you want) and you have to make sure you sleep for those few hours plus several more in order to get the REM rebound effect you need. If you're not able to sleep that long at a stretch, a nap later in the day would be very helpful to catch up on REM sleep.

thanks to everyone for the feedback.
i misread WILDS...
Here is what Ivebeen having happen. I lay down and I am awake..or concious that I am awake but I am asleep. I hear my kids I can listen to their conversations...all the while Im also dreaming very vividly. Its so weird. What is this?