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      Sleep Paralysis

      I've read on the internet that sleep paralysis can be a scary experience (especially the part about sensing an evil presence). I am a little naive (I couldn't sleep that night I read about sleep paralysis) I guess, so can anyone share their experiences? I hear that sleep paralysis is needed to do WILD so if SP is keeping me back I can't do WILD. Can anyone help?

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      This may be hard to explain...actually its real hard to explain how to be experiencing something terrifying and be able to just turn it off...but you can. Keep in mind that you are just asleep and and it is perfectly normal and healthy to feel weird, paralyzed whatever. Resisting the feeling that you are dying or there is an evil presence makes the fear and loathing even worse. This may sound crazy but its best to just go ahead and die if you think you are dying. It may be the exact opposite thing you want to do but it provides instant release from the feeling. Make sense?

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      I do not think SP is a scary thing at all. I've never sensed an evil presence, which is a good thing in my opinion. I enjoy SP because it feels really funny and unnatural, but you get used to it. In all seriousness do not be afraid because you will not get hurt. (I hope) However, SP is different for everyone.

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      All my WILDs weren't really the usually standard ones, but they were WILDs and I didn't really feel the SP as paralysis, but I felt myself flying with great speeds through freaky hallucinations. So no, I think it isn't necessary to feel paralysed and stuck to the bed, but it probably happens. I'm guessing that once you master WILD eaven the worst "Old hag" won't scare you.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bonsay View Post
      All my WILDs weren't really the usually standard ones, but they were WILDs and I didn't really feel the SP as paralysis, but I felt myself flying with great speeds through freaky hallucinations. So no, I think it isn't necessary to feel paralysed and stuck to the bed, but it probably happens. I'm guessing that once you master WILD eaven the worst "Old hag" won't scare you.
      there was a time when I was sleeping and then I felt myself falling and my leg just jerked and woke me up. Is that also part of SP. I also wanted to know if everyone sensed the presence or is it just for some people...

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      The stage between wakefullness and sleep is full of magical sh*t. The falling sensation is a tactile hypnagogic sensation I believe, one of many that may occur. It just means that you are passing into sleep and with that you can assume that SP can and should follow shortly(ish). The leg jerking is also a hypnagogic thingy and is called a hypnic jerk.

      You also should know that SP is there for your safety, the ocassional "old hag" sindrome, I believe happens because you are still aware when falling asleep and different functions of your brain unintentionally "fight with eacother". You can't move so your conciousness starts being afraid, a part of your brain starts to look for danger, the hypnagogia takes part in the action and manifests your current thoughts and fears etc. So all that might create the witches, aliens or monsters. At least I think that's how it works.

      When I was WILDing, right after I woke from a dream and went back, I felt the couch becoming a very viscous fluid, which started sucking me in. When I was fully submerged I started eccelerating through a few freaky/scary/funny HIs. At that moment, as always, I got scared and thought about the "evil presence". The evil presence came as a few second glimpse of an ugly, not so scary witch. Maby others with more experience will have more to say, but the point I was trying to make was that you have a lot of controll over those hallcinations that arise. So, I guess once you are brave and fearless nothing will bother you and if it did you'll just kick its ass.
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      Ummm...quick question...

      Do you enter sleep paralysis everytime you fall right asleep or do you only enter SP when you're about to enter REM?

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      You always enter Sp. You don't always enter REM Sleep most of the time, but you still dream.

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      Damn....I'm asking cause I was taking a nap and staying aware so I could enter SP.....didn't work.

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      No, you don't enter REM usually on a nap. You don't need to stay aware to enter a LD during a nap. All phases of sleep you can dream in. I must warn you though, sometimes during naps a good lucid dream is sometimes.

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      SP is like getting the wind knocked out of you, the first couple times you think your'e gonna die. Well actually its not that bad. I had it once after waking from a lucid in the morning and I couldn't move but I knew it was nothing to worry about from being on this forum. If I hadn't known about it, I would've freaked out. I would think SP when trying to WILD would be better because you're falling asleep whereas when I got it I was trying to move to get out of bed. As long as you know that its nothing to worry about (and you do) then it won't be too scary.

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      Quote Originally Posted by P1nhead View Post
      I do not think SP is a scary thing at all. I've never sensed an evil presence, which is a good thing in my opinion. I enjoy SP because it feels really funny and unnatural, but you get used to it. In all seriousness do not be afraid because you will not get hurt. (I hope) However, SP is different for everyone.

      Same here!! :p

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      Quote Originally Posted by P1nhead View Post
      I do not think SP is a scary thing at all. I've never sensed an evil presence, which is a good thing in my opinion. I enjoy SP because it feels really funny and unnatural, but you get used to it. In all seriousness do not be afraid because you will not get hurt. (I hope) However, SP is different for everyone.
      I love how you throw in the (I hope). That makes me want to have a SP! Lol

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      last night I woke up at 5 am or so and did some wild, when I enter Hypnagogic Stage I felt my body vibrating (the first thing in my mind was Alien Abduction because of the white light) then I opened my eyes and realized that the sun was coming up. too bad I didn't enter the dreamworld. So far i haven't sensed any evil presence (that's fine with me!). so thanks for your help guys!
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      How long did it take for you to enter the hypnagogic stage?

      I have yet to experience the vibrations...how exactly do they feel?

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      Quote Originally Posted by P1nhead View Post
      I do not think SP is a scary thing at all. I've never sensed an evil presence, which is a good thing in my opinion. I enjoy SP because it feels really funny and unnatural, but you get used to it. In all seriousness do not be afraid because you will not get hurt. (I hope) However, SP is different for everyone.

      Yeah I should have said that you only get scared if you think its scary. Its not scary at all, just weird.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Elucive View Post
      How long did it take for you to enter the hypnagogic stage?

      I have yet to experience the vibrations...how exactly do they feel?
      it feels like I'm in a seizure but without the pain. It's like I've become one of those massage chairs. and it took me about 15-20 min.
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      SP is usually a bit scary for me but it's not because I feel an evil presence it's just because I think there is something wrong with me and I'll be like that forever. I usually just don't do anything but try to fall asleep to get rid of it. I haven't had it lately but if I did I would probably be happy since I can get into a WILD pretty easy from there.
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      Does anyone's feet seem to float above their bed when in SP? Maybe in was just a dream, though...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Newbiedreamr View Post
      Does anyone's feet seem to float above their bed when in SP? Maybe in was just a dream, though...
      Yeah, some people expierence floating...

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      It shouldn't really be a scary feeling. It's just falling asleep in the comfort of your own bed. I thought it was a really cool feeling when I first tried it.
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      i found this forum because i have suffered from sp for years, but it has become extremely prevelant in the last few days.
      it has always been a terrifying experience, and when it happens, i always try as hard as i can to flail my limbs around, rock from side to side, and scream as loud as i can. i usually wake up after what feels like 10-12 seconds of being 100% aware, but unable to move a musscle.
      the next time it happens, i am going to try to remember to embrace it and enter a lucid dream

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      My experiences with SP have always been in the morning right before waking up. Normally I would be in my bed on my back and it be white, I cant see anything but this white. It feels like I am in a coma, not that I know what this is like. I can visualise what is around me, and even people moving about, if they are in my room. It was always a terrifying experience, and when I learnt what it was the SP went away

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      god, i hope that doesnt happen to me. now that i know what sp is, and how it could be used to my advantage, i want it to happen again.

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      They were my thoughts exactly... But I am sure you will be fine

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