Thread: Lucid Dreaming when you fall asleep at night?

Usually it takes over an hour to reach the inital REM periods, where you dream. If you tried to WILD when going to bed for the first time, you'd have to stay conscious through the deep sleep phases leading up to the first REM period, which isn't easy considering the duration of those phases.

Many people can get into SP from the beginning, but it's much harder to get into a dream from there. Sleeping 5-6 hours first does wonders for WILDing.

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Thanks for the fast reply! That's exactly the answer I was looking for.

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From my experience, it is possible to WILD when you go to bed for the night. It just isn't worth it. The dreams i had were dark and very low control, sluggish. Better to get the 5+ hours of sleep first and then try to have a WILD.

Originally Posted by Vex Kitten

From my experience, it is possible to WILD when you go to bed for the night. It just isn't worth it. The dreams i had were dark and very low control, sluggish. Better to get the 5+ hours of sleep first and then try to have a WILD.

Everyone obsesses over that technique, it's like, in nearly every tutorial.

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

Everyone obsesses over that technique, it's like, in nearly every tutorial.

It is obvious why, have you done it? It's amazing.

It's not common it seems, but it is definitely possible. I actually think they are more common for me than WBTB WILDs, and they are usually better (more control and vividness) than WBTB WILDs. Everyone is different, you'll find out what works for you, and what your experiences are with the different techniques.

Anyway, my first WILD was when I laid down at night to go to sleep. I didn't have to wait hours or anything to get in the REM cycle, it just happened pretty quickly. I could feel myself halfway asleep , and I had the choice of waking myself up, or going into a dream, so I went for it. I literally fell asleep, like when I chose to go into the dream I was falling. It is an amazing experience, I really hope you get one soon!

Nah, I've not done it, too much work to plan out, and I hate my alarm. Ontop of that, I'll have to change bedrooms and change the sheets and everything because my dad will wake up when he hears me walking around the house, my room is right next door to his you see.

And ontop of that, I find it hard going into sleep paralysis. And ontop of that. I find it hard keeping my eyes closed, I could go on....

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

Nah, I've not done it, too much work to plan out, and I hate my alarm. Ontop of that, I'll have to change bedrooms and change the sheets and everything because my dad will wake up when he hears me walking around the house, my room is right next door to his you see.

And ontop of that, I find it hard going into sleep paralysis. And ontop of that. I find it hard keeping my eyes closed, I could go on....

ahh, I don't know why, but whenever I WILD I don't try. I just know when I will be able to. It's sort of a state of mind, I'll notice it when I close my eyes before I go to sleep, I get a lot of hypnagogic imagery.

Also, I almost never go into sleep paralysis, and if I do, its just a minor numb feeling or something. I also rarely get up for a bit before trying to WBTB WILD, I just try it immediately, but maybe I should try it sometime. I just worry that I won't be able to get back to sleep.

I wish I could figure out why I randomly get in that state of mind where I am capable of WILDing. I really wish I could find out how to induce that state of mind myself.

You must be an expert then, lol

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

You must be an expert then, lol

I wish. Theres some people here I think that can do it way more often than me. I also don't have very good control or recall, so I am far from an expert. And they just randomly occur, I have to wait for them to happen, which gets frustrating sometimes because I wish I could have more.

I really wonder what is different about my brain, that allows me to have them, and why they are random. I haven't had one in a while I don't think (crappy memory and recall, blah) so hopefully I have one soon.

Yes you can do it fro mthe beggining of sleep. But it's just like trying to cut a stump using paper: pretty hard. I've only managed to get to SP from beggining of sleep, never a dream.

But without doubt some superior midn would be able to do it I myself really prefer trying techs in the morning when I can oversleep. It works as bingo for me.