Thread: Help with first WILD

Originally Posted by Shift

MILD: re-imagining a past dream, telling yourself you will remember to RC, and going to sleep. If you really put effort into it, you will exercise your memory first.

WILD: Laying in bed and keeping your mind awake while your body falls asleep.

I dunno, you decide. Some people are ace at WILDing right away, some (like me) suck.

How do I keep my mind awake while going to sleep? I've heard before in the tutorials that you should say aaahhhhh every time you breath out.

I've heard people say by simply performing a mental task in your head that keeps your mind awake while your body falls asleep. However, the urge for your mind to shut down is supposed to get pretty intense, so good luck. I think this is what I am going to start doing after WBTB instead of MILD. It seems more promising for my personality type.

Basically imagine yourself doing something that would keep you mentally awake while you resist any urge to move your body and allow it to fall asleep. Anyone got any good ideas of what this mental task would be? Counting sheep puts me to sleep.

I think it ought to be mentioned in this thread that it is much, much easier to WILD if you have woken up in the middle of the night and go back to sleep while trying to WILD. The reason for this is that in the beginning of the night, you drop directly into non-REM sleep which isn't very good for dreams. If you wake up towards the early morning, you're in the middle of heavy REM cycles, so you fall into a much more dream-friendly sleep.

So, don't try to WILD first thing at night. Just fall asleep, possibly with an autosuggestion or an alarm clock to wake you up after 5-6 hours sleep. Then try it. It's easier.

As has been mentioned, DEILD is the extreme form of this method, where you're asleep before coming up for rational air ever so briefly and returning to the dream, but this time you're lucid.

Well, this is the second decent-length interruption from sleep in my cycle and I am pretty sure I was awakened from REM, though I do not recall the dream any more. Here I go -- to dream land! :]

Seriously this shit freaks me out, I'm shaking because I'm so terrified.

But I guess I'm going for another try this night..


Has anyone tried these mental sounds, that's supposed to help you get lucid? If you have, did they work?

Originally Posted by Sopanen

Seriously this shit freaks me out, I'm shaking because I'm so terrified.

But I guess I'm going for another try this night..


Has anyone tried these mental sounds, that's supposed to help you get lucid? If you have, did they work?

Hypnagogic hallucinations?

HH are terrifying at first, but once you realize they are what they are, and nothing external, you become no more afraid of them than you are of yourself. It seems like every time I attempt WILD I get to the sounds and slight flashes of images then go unconscious. I must prevail!