Thread: Does being lucid stop you from resting.

What does DMT do? I got comfused at that point...

Originally Posted by SleepyCookieDough

What does DMT do? I got comfused at that point...

It is the most powerful psychedelic drug that people take to have multi-dimensional experiences where they encounter entities that are either alien, elves, or fractal light beings. Most people smoke it and immediately think that they have died. It comes on in about 3 econds and the whole trip lasts about 15 mintues.
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?S1=18

Check out this link.

I started a thread in Beyond Dreaming about this so that we can be more on topic: http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=87772

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But did you guys say that pregnent women experience some death kind of thing for 15 minutes on their 47 day?

Originally Posted by SleepyCookieDough

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But did you guys say that pregnent women experience some death kind of thing for 15 minutes on their 47 day?

Well, no... Ok. here it is: If you take a hit of DMT from a pipe it will last for about 15 minutes. This is because the brain uses it up real fast. It gobbles it down. It loves it. And there is a chemical that breaks it down. However, it is made in your body in the pineal gland. If it is released over a period of time it will last that period of time.

And the fetus's pineal gland matures and releases DMT at 49 days, not the mother. So the fetus has an intense multidimensional trip at that moment. The Mother AND th Fetus both release DMT during a natural childbirth.

SO if you were born Naturally you had an intense psychedelic trip at 49 days when you entered into your mother's womb (my interpretation), and when you were born when you entered into this world. Every night when you dream you have a psychedelic experience, especially when you are lucid. This is why I think that it is possible to use lucid dreaming for spiritual growth.

I actually asked my Biology teacher (Who studied Neurology for about 12 years) about this and she said yes, exsessive Lucid dreaming IS bad for you. Your body only rests if if can get to the Deeper states of sleep which it is not able to do in Lucid Dreaming. She said without getting to this nessisary state you will first become stressed and then eventually psycocotic. So in conclusion I would say yes.
Although please note - I don't know how much she actually knows about Lucid dreaming and her personal views (I think she's against it) may have colored her opinion.
Hope i helped! =)

Originally Posted by VividlyFloating

I actually asked my Biology teacher (Who studied Neurology for about 12 years) about this and she said yes, exsessive Lucid dreaming IS bad for you. Your body only rests if if can get to the Deeper states of sleep which it is not able to do in Lucid Dreaming. She said without getting to this nessisary state you will first become stressed and then eventually psycocotic. So in conclusion I would say yes.
Although please note - I don't know how much she actually knows about Lucid dreaming and her personal views (I think she's against it) may have colored her opinion.
Hope i helped! =)

Obviously she is right in that you so need to spend time in Delta brainwave frequency but she is wrong in thinking that lucid dreaming will keep you from spending time in Delta.

Originally Posted by VividlyFloating

she said yes, exsessive Lucid dreaming IS bad for you. Your body only rests if if can get to the Deeper states of sleep which it is not able to do in Lucid Dreaming. She said without getting to this nessisary state you will first become stressed and then eventually psycocotic. So in conclusion I would say yes.
Although please note - I don't know how much she actually knows about Lucid dreaming and her personal views (I think she's against it) may have colored her opinion.
Hope i helped! =)

maybe, disapproving of lucid dreaming, she puts the cart before the horse and thinks 'I dont approve of it therefore it must be harmful' or that there much be some kind of punishment (you go mad).
Did she provide scientifically verifiable examples of psychosis that resulted from over doing lucid dreaming?

Maybe it is the case that if you were lucid during all your dream periods this would be harmful but I'd imagine that your brain would self regulate and make sure that it got what it needed?

Why would someone be 'against' lucid dreaming?
I mean, cant you do what you like in your own head

Wow, this thread has grown since last time I was here.

I'm just gonna echo what others have said and say that lucid dreaming most likely has no drawback in terms of rest. After all, the few naturals you see that lucid dream every single night don't seem to be affected, so why would the rest of us? And if it is so unhealthy, I would think the subconscious would step in, like lunar6 said. I find the discussion of DMT and Tibetan beliefs fascinating too, but I guess there's a separate thread for that now.

Originally Posted by Singularity125

Wow, this thread has grown since last time I was here.

I'm just gonna echo what others have said and say that lucid dreaming most likely has no drawback in terms of rest. After all, the few naturals you see that lucid dream every single night don't seem to be affected, so why would the rest of us? And if it is so unhealthy, I would think the subconscious would step in, like lunar6 said. I find the discussion of DMT and Tibetan beliefs fascinating too, but I guess there's a separate thread for that now.

But in that Tibetan beliefs, comes that them train to be aware 24/7. One more proof that it doesn't stop you from resting...

There is no drawback to being aware!!! Rather, there are drawbacks to being ignorant!!!
Awareness doesn't stop relaxation!!! In fact you need to relax to become more aware!!!

Originally Posted by VividlyFloating

I actually asked my Biology teacher (Who studied Neurology for about 12 years) about this and she said yes, exsessive Lucid dreaming IS bad for you. Your body only rests if if can get to the Deeper states of sleep which it is not able to do in Lucid Dreaming. She said without getting to this nessisary state you will first become stressed and then eventually psycocotic. So in conclusion I would say yes.
Although please note - I don't know how much she actually knows about Lucid dreaming and her personal views (I think she's against it) may have colored her opinion.
Hope i helped! =)

She's probably like my mom and the other people I've been talking about. The people who are septic about Lucid Dreams do not believe its possible and then they say that if you're conscious you need to be awake and then I need to keep saying that I've been lucid many times and I know from experience that it is possible to be conscious and dream at the same time so they assume that if you can be conscious without being awake, then you have to be awake but asleep at the same time: Dreaming but not resting. I think septic people think to hard. They try to find explanations or something. lucid dreams simply exist and its simply possible to be conscious during a dream, there's not so complicated I think. YOu're teacher probably just said that because it is logical to her that being conscious is a antonym of sleeping. Like someone said it before, you do need Delta but lucid dreaming doesn't stop you from being in that state.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

There is no drawback to being aware!!! Rather, there are drawbacks to being ignorant!!!
Awareness doesn't stop relaxation!!! In fact you need to relax to become more aware!!!

That's true.