Thread: Supermodels are repulsive to me.

@tommo, @stormcrow
(..I just tried the he/she thing but I'm going to change it all to 'they' because there are too many he/shes, it looks ridiculous)

I agree partially. People have the power to change themselves, in most cases, but for whatever reason, don't. But I disagree that they should be negatively judged because of this. The situations are, in a lot of cases, probably more complicated than some lazy selfish fat person giving up on themselves and failing to realize that they can work to change themselves. I'm sure some cases are like this, maybe even the majority, but real life tends not to be that simple, so I would not assume this about anyone.

A person might have tried countless times to lose weight and failed. They might have thought hard about their issues with willpower and for whatever reason not been able to overcome certain problems. The workings of the subconscious can be complicated. Psychological issues sometimes run deeper than you might expect. They might eat because of a self hatred. The desire for food, for those who eat to relieve boredom or depression, can be very strong.

If the craving for food is very small for you, it's easy for you to resist it and to label someone who eats a lot very weak-willed, but only because you might not realize how much will it would really take to overcome their problem. And that if you were in their place, you might find you wouldn't have the willpower to resist it either.

From the outside, it's easy to say that you would have adequate willpower. If you've never really had a problem with willpower, it's impossible to tell whether you really are better at summoning it than some people, or you're lucky and the urges which you have to overcome with willpower are just not that strong for you.

I'm just saying that this is one of the things that could be going on, and it seems a pretty unrealistically black-white view to label all fat people negatively without knowing them and their motivations. To me, a typical fat American has probably tried to lose weight and failed, maybe tried quite hard and failed. They aren't bad people, but they shouldn't be labeled with some disability and give up either. Too little is known about them to label them negatively.

(I'm not fat, but I've had terrible willpower issues in other areas of life.)

You do have a point. And it's probably more the companies who make this addictive food who are the ones to blame.
But for some reason I can't help feeling disgusted by these people. It's literally the only thing which has ever caused me to judge someone.
It's simply not in my character to judge people straight away. Those sorts of things just don't even cross my mind.
But for example, even just my family eating fish and chips or chicken or something at the table. I see this and suddenly look at them in a completely
different way; and it disgusts me. I just feel completely horrible.
To me, I think, it just seems like pure selfishness. That's the only thing I can think of for why I feel like that.

Regarding stormcrows comment about no sympathy. I don't really have sympathy for fat people either. "Junkies" I have sympathy for, definitely. I don't know why I see these things differently.

Maybe it's the fact that fat people are too lazy to even get a real addiction Seriously though, it could be that.
Or maybe the fact that fat people could eat less and leave more food for the starving people. Heroin addicts for example, aren't really taking anything from anyone else except themselves.

So I definitely see what you're saying. Maybe it's just something that is illogical. But it's how I see it.

I have an auntie (and it makes me shudder to even admit that we're related) who is fat and has diabetes. She is on insulin and just keeps eating the same shit she always has. She recently lost a toe and it got infected and everything. It's disgusting.
So that is selfish too. Some scientists work incredibly hard (creating insulin) to help people who have diabetes. Yet these people don't care, they just take everything for granted. They are a waste of life.

The thing is that too skinny is an eating disorder, and too fat is an eating disorder. Both these people suffer from insecurity around their self-image. The anorexic has too much will power and a distorted body image. I saw an anorexic in the health food store. She was at the bins of food and she was nibbling on a few grains of dried uncooked rice. She bought coffee and put tons of sugar in it. I watched her. I wanted to buy her an avocado if I thought she would eat it. She looked like a famine victim. It was creepy. Someone who is overweight is not that creepy, unless they are grossly overweight. Overly obese people also suffer from something pathological. I know a very sweet woman who gave up at one time in her life. I am trying to help her overcome the obstacle that she let settle on her. She is motivated now but she has a lot to overcome. I know what you mean by watching people eat like pigs is gross. As if that food is the highest pleasure in life and happiness is scarce and if you just keep eating maybe you can be happy. This is like a pig, and it is gross.

But a lot of things are gross and the people who suffer from these things are people like you and me. When helping people you have to deal with a lot of gross stuff. Love makes it not gross. A mother changes her baby's diaper several times a day for a couple years. I used to take care of old people and mentally handicapped people for a living and I had to shower gross people and deal with diapers and vomit all the time. I guess my point is that it is easy to judge people and to be disgusted by unhealthy bodies and minds, but the help they need is for us to see beyond that to who they really are so that they can recognize that within themselves and bring themselves back to balance.

And processed gross foods are to blame also, and pharmaceutical companies and the media and our obsession with models and superficial physical "beauty". I remember seeing a hot woman in line at a gross hot-dog cart to buy a hot dog. My friend asked me if I thought she was hot and I told her "No, she eats garbage."

Really, there are beautiful women who could be models, and some are. But the models in the magazines are just like disney cartoons or barbie dolls. Not my idea of beauty. Porn stars are really gross. Especially when they aren't wearing make up. And they don't know how to make love. It is all acting. Uh oh, I better stop before I start ranting too much.

Originally Posted by tommo

Some scientists work incredibly hard (creating insulin) to help people who have diabetes. Yet these people don't care, they just take everything for granted. They are a waste of life.

...?

So they give in to one guilty pleasure and suddenly they're taking everything for granted?

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

And processed gross foods are to blame also, and pharmaceutical companies and the media and our obsession with models and superficial physical "beauty". I remember seeing a hot woman in line at a gross hot-dog cart to buy a hot dog. My friend asked me if I thought she was hot and I told her "No, she eats garbage."

But you just used the adjective 'hot' to describe her to us.

Originally Posted by Dianeva

But you just used the adjective 'hot' to describe her to us.

If you see brad pitt walking down town eating out of garbage cans would you still think he is hot?

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

If you see brad pitt walking down town eating out of garbage cans would you still think he is hot?

Well if the sun was shining down on him just so...

Seriously though, eating a hot dog isn't the same as eating decomposing slop from a trash can.

Originally Posted by GavinGill

Well if the sun was shining down on him just so...

Seriously though, eating a hot dog isn't the same as eating decomposing slop for a trash can.

It's actually pretty close

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

If you see brad pitt walking down town eating out of garbage cans would you still think he is hot?

No, because I don't find him hot anyway.

But I get the point. I guess he meant hot as in, he could tell her physical appearance was hot. But he did use the same adjective, so I found it kind of funny. "There was this hot woman. I didn't think she was hot."

Originally Posted by Dianeva

No, because I don't find him hot anyway.

But I get the point. I guess he meant hot as in, he could tell her physical appearance was hot. But he did use the same adjective, so I found it kind of funny. "There was this hot woman. I didn't think she was hot."

Yeah, i'm really just screwing around. By the way i think Bradd Pitt is one handsome man lol. (im not gay )

Originally Posted by GavinGill

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So they give in to one guilty pleasure and suddenly they're taking everything for granted?

I already clearly stated that it probably is not logical. But that is what I feel. Also it is taking things for granted. This medicine people worked hard to create could make someone healthy, bu they just abuse it to keep eating like shit.

Most models are not anorexic by any means. There job is to model underwear and bathing suits and things. How long does that take? A two day photoshoot once a month? What do you think they de with the rest of their time? They are thin because they have time to work out, go running, swimming, to keep their figure. A great ass and sexy legs come from working out, not not eating. The models I know, eat significantly more than normal women because they have to keep a steady input of calories because they burn so much off in their workout. Remember the cross country girls in high school? They were just as thin, but they wolfed down 5 thousand calories a day easily.

Maybe she is trying, she's just having trouble making a change. Or maybe she has cut back and you haven't noticed? In any case, that's taking one (or a few) thing(s) for granted, not "everything." Also, don't you think you're being a little harsh when you call her, and everyone in a similar situation, a waste of life? I mean, how can you disregard every good deed they've done just because of a single guilty pleasure?

Yes, yes, I know... "probably illogical." I'm just trying to point out that's it's definitely illogical.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Most models are not anorexic by any means. There job is to model underwear and bathing suits and things. How long does that take? A two day photoshoot once a month? What do you think they de with the rest of their time? They are thin because they have time to work out, go running, swimming, to keep their figure. A great ass and sexy legs come from working out, not not eating. The models I know, eat significantly more than normal women because they have to keep a steady input of calories because they burn so much off in their workout. Remember the cross country girls in high school? They were just as thin, but they wolfed down 5 thousand calories a day easily.

This is true. There are some who are just fit. But there is still undoubtedly some anorexic women, or heroin addicts.

Gavin - This moron I'm talking about is stupid. so there's no point going on about that, it was just an example.

In general though, maybe some of the obese people are generally good. But that's not what I see in some of them. Trust me. I know the logic behind this. I'm just saying I feel that way.
I know some of them are probably just like anyone else. But so many people are just dumb and ignorant and lazy and disgusting.

I don't really need to discuss this though. I just find it repulsive. Done.

Heroine addicts don't live very long. And anorexic women would have a hard time competing wit women who are physically fit. Yes, I'm sure there are models who are anorexic, but not supermodels. Models sell sex appeal, agents know that anorexic is not sexy. Guys like nice long tone legs, nice soft plump breasts, and flat tone tummies, and a healthy beautiful face. Anorexia gives you none of those, it gives you stick legs, completely flat chests, bumpy rib-filled tummies, and thin, sickly faces.

Originally Posted by Jay12341235

Never heard of em. Haters gonna hate!

What are you attracted to? Those three (minus the one on the left) are pretty.

I certainly wouldn't be okay with an overweight girlfriend, I think many of you are trying to make excuses for not having a super hot girlfriend or wife

I think that the fact that you think it is so important to "many of us" to have a "super hot girlfriend or wife" suggests that you think that worrying about such menial things is normal, and this reflects badly upon you.

"This lady's got the thickness.
"Can I get a witness?
"This lovely lady's got the thickness.
"Can I get a hell yeah?

"Grab them saddlebags and
"Toss 'em over me, let's
"Ride all night"

"Booty big and thickalicious
"Shake it like she's fearless
"This lovely lady's got the thickness
"Can I get a HELL YEAH!?"

Just to clarify I dont think obese people are a waste of space or bad. I was implying that I have limited sympathy for someone who is suffering from a self inflicted condition.

@Dannon O- Ive had to care for the mentally handicapped as well. After that experience I found myself not as creeped out by people with mental disorders as I was when I was a child. I feel the same way about the hotdog lady lol. If I see a hot girl eating meat she becomes automatically not hot whatsoever.

As for models I find some hot others not. I don't follow fashion (I wear a plain white tshirt and jeans everyday lol) so I don't really come across enough models to have an elaborate opinion on them.

I'm with you, Stormcrow. I feel bad for overweight people the way I feel bad for drug addicts. I'm not comparing them, as far as morals go or anything like that... BUT both problems are due to at least some sort of lack of self control in a lot of cases. (NOT ALL CASES.. A LOT OF CASES.)

For those who are saying that we're all jealous of not getting "hot" wives and girlfriends/making an excuse to be overweight.

A runway model of 5ft 8inches usually weighs something beween 105-120 pounds. This is underweight and not healthy. A person who's a healthy weight and that height should weigh somewhere around 140 pounds.

I know what you may be thinking. "Weight isn't reliable because of muscle nanana" but do you actually see any muscle on these models what so ever? A 110 pound 5ft 8 model has probably wasted most of her muscle away.

Over-eating is considered an eating disorder, and it is one. When something shit happens to someone, a lot of times food is affected. They either control their food/can't eat, or they binge and use it as a comfort. Anorexic people (my best friend is anorexic by the way) always drag themselves down, never see themselves as good enough. People who overeat do this too. Then again, that doesn't mean I think it's ok. They shouldn't just accept it and eat themselves to death.

I'm also not one of the people who believe it when people say "I was born to be fat, it's my genes." Because my dad's from what would be considered a fat family. Most of his family died in their early sixties from heart attacks and other shit like that. But when my dad was 17 he joined the army and guess what, he's never been fat. Ever. Even now, at 47 he's still a perfectly healthy weight. Genes play a part but in the end you need to stop eating stuff that's shit for you, get off your ass and exercise. If only it were that simple for some most people.

So many more people are getting insecure about themselves. The media's a bitch and size 0 models aren't helping.

Originally Posted by Dianeva

But you just used the adjective 'hot' to describe her to us.

Correction: "Otherwise" hot. Or hot is society's eyes.

Originally Posted by sloth

I think that the fact that you think it is so important to "many of us" to have a "super hot girlfriend or wife" suggests that you think that worrying about such menial things is normal, and this reflects badly upon you.

"This lady's got the thickness.
"Can I get a witness?
"This lovely lady's got the thickness.
"Can I get a hell yeah?

"Grab them saddlebags and
"Toss 'em over me, let's
"Ride all night"

there goes my lunch

Some people also just don't put on much weight. One of my friends who is a model eats like a pig (not really unhealthy food, just a LOT of food lol) and she is tiny.
She's rather short too, maybe 5' 6" I suppose. But she obviously has a really fast metabolism and she also exercises a lot. She's a good type of skinny, like fit looking and really toned etc.

So my point is, it's not the "size 0" models Raspberry. It's the people who decide that they are the perfect beauty and put them on stage. i.e Everyone.
It is humans in general that think this body type is attractive. Because it is a healthy body type. Obviously there are a few extreme examples and you're just like wtf?
But I think generally these girls just have fast metabolisms and exercise a lot. I think the anorexic people are put there to get media attention tbh.

There's always going to be people who have something "wrong" with them and take something the wrong way.
For example the anorexic inspiration websites. Or in a different issue, people who take a book seriously and become scientologists.

Some people just do this sort of thing; assume that what they are told or shown is concrete fact. When in all likelihood, most people do not care if you are not the "perfect" image of beauty. Most people are attracted to that perfect image, of course, but also they are attracted to someone who they see something else in, which would not be considered perfect.

Wow, how did this thread go from supermodels to dietary suppliments? No matter, I'll eat one!