Thread: everybody hates somebody

Originally Posted by greenhavoc

How so?

Well how does hate teach humility? Hatred that breeds criticism I can see making a difference in that regard but hatred in itself? I can't see it. Show me the light, greenhavoc. D:

Originally Posted by GavinGill

Well how does hate teach humility? Hatred that breeds criticism I can see making a difference in that regard but hatred in itself? I can't see it. Show me the light, greenhavoc. D:

The more I hate on someone/something the more absorbed I become by my own genius/bullshit.

This leaves me vulnerable around the smarter folks who actually know what they're talking about. Once I've been put in my place a few times I will do 1 of 2 things:

• Knock it off and apoligize
• Learn where/how I'm wrong

_______________________________________Humility

I really hate this person that posted after me, down there.

Originally Posted by greenhavoc

This leaves me vulnerable around the smarter folks who actually know what they're talking about. Once I've been put in my place a few times I will do 1 of 2 things:

• Knock it off and apoligize
• Learn where/how I'm wrong

That's what I meant by criticism, guess I worded it wrong. Hate itself isn't exactly necessary though; the more someone loves someone/something, the more absorbed they become by their own genius/bullshit as well. No? Idk, I'm horrible at getting my point across.

Originally Posted by sloth

I really hate this person that posted after me, down there.

@GavinGill - You changed your avatar

I'll let you off with it this time...

I don't hate anyone. There are people I dislike, sure. Some people I can't be in the same room in, but it doesn't mean I hate them.

Someone once said to me that you know you hate someone when you are willing to hurt yourself to hurt them. Don't know if this is true or not, but I'm not like this with anyone currently. If I don't like someone, I avoid them. People need to lighten up and realize that they need to get rid of negatives and stop bitterly feeding them. Harder than it sounds I know, but I'm sure you guys can manage it!

Ya really hate is subjective. So you only hate them because you think you hate them. You can dislike or feel uncomfortable around someone but thats normally from the heart.

Originally Posted by greenhavoc

The more I hate on someone/something the more absorbed I become by my own genius/bullshit.

This leaves me vulnerable around the smarter folks who actually know what they're talking about. Once I've been put in my place a few times I will do 1 of 2 things:

• Knock it off and apoligize
• Learn where/how I'm wrong

_______________________________________Humility

So basically by hating on something you realize that you don't gain anything from the hate and stop hating. You could just not go around thinking that you know everything in the first place. It's much nicer to learn humility from rationality than from hatred.

Originally Posted by stonedape

So basically by hating on something you realize that you don't gain anything from the hate and stop hating.

No, that's not it at all. I don't suddenly realize anything, I've known what I was doing that whole time. I intentionally allow myself to become a target because I like the way it feels. I gain everything through hating.

Originally Posted by stonedape

You could just not go around thinking that you know everything in the first place.

I never said I know everything nor have I given you any reason to assume that's the way I feel.

Originally Posted by stonedape"

It's much nicer to learn humility from rationality than from hatred.

Yeah, nice just doesn't do it for me anymore.

So you prefer shitty things to nice things? I'm not talking about being all nicey nice, I'm talking about things from an economic standpoint. Hate is exceedingly wasteful and unintelligent. You gain nothing from the actual act of hating, if you gain anything it's from the side effects of hating wich can be acheived through other means. You don't need to hate things in order to learn, that makes no damn sense.

Are you even serious or just trolling? You gain everything through hating? Thats fucked up.

So you prefer shitty things to nice things? I'm not talking about being all nicey nice, I'm talking about things from an economic standpoint. Hate is exceedingly wasteful and unintelligent.

Tell me again what the driving force behind an economy is?
Wouldn't be greed, would it?

Are you even serious or just trolling?

You don't need to hate things in order to learn, that makes no damn sense.

Hate is exceedingly wasteful and unintelligent.

You gain everything through hating? Thats fucked up.

Some pretty hateful thoughts you got there, stonedape. But you won't learn anything from this, right?

Ha hating hate is an untenable position but still hate is destructive and irrational. I dont hate anyone, I cannot hate anyone.

Same stormcrow. I feel like hating a person is so irrational I really can't do it. It's like being mad at your keys when you can't find them. It's just a projection of your own ignorance.

Originally Posted by greenhavoc

Tell me again what the driving force behind an economy is?
Wouldn't be greed, would it?

Nope, it's demand. Very different from greed. Greed is the driving force behind the our fucked in the ass economy(which is a very un-economical (not sure if that's a word)economy. We have the most wasteful culture in the history of the world. And a very hateful one at that)

People buy things because they want them or need them, not because they are greedy and want to hord them.

Some pretty hateful thoughts you got there, stonedape. But you won't learn anything from this, right?

Do you understand the difference between hate and "hating on" something? Hating on something does not require someone to hate it. I'll explain this if you want but I don't think it needs to be.

I'm just being a prick because you kinda sound like a troll. If it bothers you I'll stop, but I didn't think anything I said was that harsh.

Hate is wasteful and unintelligent, there's probably whole books on that topic. And I learn things everyday without hating or even hating on things first. If you really do gain everything through hating that's kinda messed up, I'm not trying to offend you, it just makes you sound like a psychopath(not trying to say you are one, you don't seem like one in any of your other posts).

I also will take it back if I ever said that you can't learn anything from hating(I don't think I did but......). You can learn from hate, it's just an uneffective and destructive way of doing things. Why do something through uneffective destructive means when you could do it peacefully and more easily? Learning through hate is like learning through mistakes. You can do it but it's better just to get things right the first time usually.

man this thread is bad

I hate all of you

We have the most wasteful culture in the history of the world. And a very hateful one at that.

And your very next sentence.

People buy things because they want them or need them, not because they are greedy and want to hord them.

If you really do gain everything through hating that's kinda messed up, I'm not trying to offend you, it just makes you sound like a psychopath(not trying to say you are one, you don't seem like one in any of your other posts).

• I'm just being a prick because you kinda sound like a troll

Okay.

Why do something through uneffective destructive means when you could do it peacefully and more easily?

If this is your way of peacefully tryn to teach me/make a point, it's not working.
You're a funny character.

No, actually I just like debating on the internet. It'd be nice if you did learn something, but if a person is truly going to hold an ideal they have think about it. This is a way of thinking about it for me. It's a way of exploring hate, of truly seeing that there is no point to doing it and not just basing my decision on the types of people I've seen hate like clansmen, nazis and fundamentalists from different religions. Just look on youtube, hoards of morons spouting hate to make themselves feel better. It's mind blowing.

But economy is not driven by greed. I think you're confusing the concept of economy(2a : thrifty and efficient use of material resources : frugality in expenditures; also : an instance or a means of economizing : saving b : efficient and concise use of nonmaterial resources (as effort, language, or motion)) with the economy(The wealth and resources of a country or region, esp. in terms of the production and consumption of goods and services). One refers to money and goods the other can refer to almost anything, like what is the most economic way of playing this guitar lick.

If you are convinced that economy is driven by greed would you mind explaining how it is? I don't even think that our economy is driven by greed per se, it's just manipulated by greedy people. Being wasteful and hateful have nothing to do with being greedy, other than that greedy people are often wasteful and hateful. This is because being greedy is in fact un-economical, it's not an efficient way of living.

Originally Posted by stonedape

It'd be nice if you did learn something, but if a person is truly going to hold an ideal they have think about it.

What in the hell does that even mean?

I think you're confusing the concept of economy

No, I'm not confused in the least.

If you are convinced that economy is driven by greed would you mind explaining how it is?

There are 3 class' of peoples:

• Rich
• Middle class
• Poor

Did you hear what I just said?

I don't even think that our economy is driven by greed per se, it's just manipulated by greedy people. Being wasteful and hateful have nothing to do with being greedy, other than that greedy people are often wasteful and hateful. This is because being greedy is in fact un-economical, it's not an efficient way of living.

You have the dialectics of a hamster's wheel.
This isn't even fun anymore.

Originally Posted by greenhavoc

What in the hell does that even mean?

It means I hold an ideal of non-violence. I consider hate to be a violent(or maybe aggressive is a better word) thought pattern. I don't think it's an effective way of accomplishing anything. I like to think about this stuff and you're providing me with stuff to think about.

Originally Posted by greenhavoc

No, I'm not confused in the least.

There are 3 class' of peoples:

• Rich
• Middle class
• Poor

Did you hear what I just said?

Ok then your just wrong, hows that? Class has nothing to do with economy. It relates to the economy. When I put the word the in front I am using the word as a noun to talk about the system of wealth and goods. When I don't I am using at as an adjective or adverb to describe the way things are done. Are they done economically? meaning are they done efficiently. What does efficiency(economy) have to do with greed?

No no no, I get it now.
Good job!

I hate it when people end debates like that.

I hate always being right, so?

what debate?

The debate you were clearly just having with greenhavoc?
Argument/debate/conversation. I don't care, please don't be another person to try to inform me that debates are different from arguments.

I hate when people make websites about hating and like to hate people. I hate those people.....

Why is it cool to hate people? Why is it fun to hate people? I think that haters look like idiots. Haters seem to be proud of their hate, which really makes them look like idiots. I don't hate haters, I am ashamed of them on their behalf. I lived in the South where I was surrounded by rednecks for hundreds of miles and they hated everyone! Bicycle riders? Hate them. Mexicans? Hate them. French? Italians? Jews? Blacks? Gays? Yankees? Vegetarians? Organic farmers? Hate them all. Even having a conversation with any of them became a conversation about who they hate. It was a source of pride for them, like how much they have to put up with. Like they complain in order to get sympathy which builds good rapport for conversation or something. They even hate the weather! But not as much as the weather in other places that they have never been to. They even talk shit about people in the next county calling THEM rednecks! One mechanic will spend hours laughing at how the other mechanic down the road is dishonest, and the other mechanic will be saying the same thing about this mechanic, but they are both honest mechanics. And it is not about competition, it is just their way of life and relating.