Thread: 10minutes forced concentration on one object.without any other thoughts, how to do it ?

Originally Posted by NovaCoru

This is a big problem with meditation. some people call it "monkey mind," how all your thoughts tend to jump around like a monkey on a tree. like everyone else has said, the only real way to make it go away is by practicing it over and over and over again. Often you'll feel like your getting nowhere, but if you keep doing it eventually you'll get somewhere.

Yes, practice helps, but not because focus works like a muscle, necessarily. It simply takes to practice to understand how to control your attention. For me, control over my attention comes from realizing that it's different from the thoughts, and to stop identifying with my thoughts. They are just thoughts, and they aren't real. My attention is the real focal point of myself. You can focus on attention itself, using a piece of your attention to reflect back on itself and get in touch with your mindful foundation. Keeping a piece of your attention upon itself, you retain presence in the moment and distractions become manageable. Suddenly you realize you have a choice whether or not to follow a distraction.

Originally Posted by Original Poster

Do not fight the thoughts. Allow the coin and the other thoughts to sit in your attention. Your attention is not the thinker. You can easily retain your attention on anything you want if you realize that you control your attention, but you do not control your thoughts. Your thoughts do not have to distract you from your point of focus, but they will distract you if you try to fight their existence.

Yes, practice helps, but not because focus works like a muscle, necessarily. It simply takes to practice to understand how to control your attention. For me, control over my attention comes from realizing that it's different from the thoughts, and to stop identifying with my thoughts. They are just thoughts, and they aren't real. My attention is the real focal point of myself. You can focus on attention itself, using a piece of your attention to reflect back on itself and get in touch with your mindful foundation. Keeping a piece of your attention upon itself, you retain presence in the moment and distractions become manageable. Suddenly you realize you have a choice whether or not to follow a distraction.

I noticed it, after few days i realized it and now i read it here...
but also one thing, if you are doing it, and someone in background turn on some catchy music....this attention jumps...you have to control it every second because at least for me it want to listen to music, and when my small part of attention see it i redirect it to coin bu after few seconds it jumps again to music..

and my point is not too be in silent environment.... i want my mind to filter out this music and every other background noise.its really hard because almost everything is less boring than staring at not interesting object.