Thread: Please Stop Necroposting!

Originally Posted by ExoByte

That is not what he meant. It is not the go to continue Necro'ing, unless you actually have something constructive to add and there is actually a reason to revive said post. If you're just Necro'ing for the sake of Necro'ing, quit it.

Fair enough.
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Originally Posted by Burns

There is no reason for you to act like a defiant child. Simply put, please grow up and stop pointlessly necro-ing threads as several staff members have requested.

Oh but Burns, there is a reason. A good reason at that. One of which all of you seem to missing!

I will NOT stop bringing threads back if I am so inclined. I like the old threads.

Originally Posted by CymekSniper

Oh but Burns, there is a reason. A good reason at that. One of which all of you seem to missing!

I will NOT stop bringing threads back if I am so inclined. I like the old threads.

Noted CymekSniper.
I suggest you note it as well.

If he's reviving old threads and adding fair content, I see no reason to penalise. On the contrary, we often get upset when others fail to use the search option to find a topic already covered.

Plus, just simply ignore him if it really bothers you. It is not as though the reviving of an old thread does anything offensive..? Does it..? I do not understand the ethical reasoning here and am curious to what it is.

On that grounds, if we are to say that they should post substantial responses to them, should we not say that they should post substantial responses to all posts..?

Please explain this form of disciplinary action. I am humbly curious and see it is fair grounds to ask for justification.
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Actually, it clutters the forum and when your reviving threads pointlessly it bumps down the threads that actually might have some use.

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Actually, it clutters the forum and when your reviving threads pointlessly it bumps down the threads that actually might have some use.

Most were in senseless banter after all....

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Actually, it clutters the forum and when your reviving threads pointlessly it bumps down the threads that actually might have some use.

Are you saying that these threads that you are revering so much are insignificant and should not be recognized..? If that is the case, then why not just delete all threads that are over a year old?

Further, if we do not want pointless content, then should we not ask for no pointless content on any thread..?

I have posted several threads (ie. Taliban Suicide Games) which are not very substantial and hold little use. Older threads could certainly hold more practicality than some new ones.
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Originally Posted by CymekSniper

Most were in senseless banter after all....

The man has a point.

Originally Posted by O'nus

Are you saying that these threads that you are revering so much are insignificant and should not be recognized..? If that is the case, then why not just delete all threads that are over a year old?

Further, if we do not want pointless content, then should we not ask for no pointless content on any thread..?

I have posted several threads (ie. Taliban Suicide Games) which are not very substantial and hold little use. Older threads could certainly hold more practicality than some new ones.
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No, you're missing the point completely. There are many threads worthwhile from years ago that could still be discussed now. But that isn't a free license to start putting pointless random babble at the end of posts to Necro them for no other reason than because you can. If you want to recognize a thread, post something worth while rather than one word bull.

Originally Posted by ExoByte

No, you're missing the point completely. There are many threads worthwhile from years ago that could still be discussed now. But that isn't a free license to start putting pointless random babble at the end of posts to Necro them for no other reason than because you can. If you want to recognize a thread, post something worth while rather than one word bull.

Exactly, so it is not necro'ing threads that's the problem, it's posting appropriate content.

Believe me, I am fully confident that I understand the issue.

Edit; there are still people that get upset over newbies not using the search issue to look up old threads rather than posting the new thread.
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Originally Posted by O'nus

Exactly, so it is not necro'ing threads that's the problem, it's posting appropriate content.

Believe me, I am fully confident that I understand the issue.

Edit; there are still people that get upset over newbies not using the search issue to look up old threads rather than posting the new thread.
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Yes, that is correct

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

The man has a point.

So that makes it right?
Senseless banter was created out of a necessity to keep the senseless out of the meaningful topics.
So senseless senseless dribble should be considered?

Originally Posted by Howie

So that makes it right?
Senseless banter was created out of a necessity to keep the senseless out of the meaningful topics.
So senseless senseless dribble should be considered?

Doesn't necessarily make it right, but perhaps doesn't warrant all the staff ganging up on him. It is, after all, in senseless banter. SB = "a necessary evil," as someone described it. Trying to moderate it just because it might annoy you is probably not worth all of the effort.

There's nothing wrong with "senseless senseless dribble", IMO, if it's kept in SB, where it is supposed to be. Now, if people were going around being incredibly rude or posting inappropriate content or whatever, that's another issue entirely.

Originally Posted by O'nus

Exactly, so it is not necro'ing threads that's the problem, it's posting appropriate content.

Its both, imo. I mean, an old thread made by old inactive members holds something of value, as Ame was talking about. When someone comes along and bumps it for no other purpose than for making an insubstanial post (and its not about newbies not searching for information in threads because they are not newbies who are doing it), it is disruptive and annoying. Those old threads should be left alone unless someone comes along who can REALLY contribute something of value to it. I guess its more of an honor/respect thing that we have in regards to the old threads on DV - which is the same reason most of the threads in the DV Favorites forum are locked, the preserve that thread and prevent it from being mucked up by new, random posts that serve no purpose. Not to say every old thread should be locked, but unless you have something worthwhile to add to it, leave it alone.

Originally Posted by Burns

Its both, imo. I mean, an old thread made by old inactive members holds something of value, as Ame was talking about. When someone comes along and bumps it for no other purpose than for making an insubstanial post (and its not about newbies not searching for information in threads because they are not newbies who are doing it), it is disruptive and annoying. Those old threads should be left alone unless someone comes along who can REALLY contribute something of value to it. I guess its more of an honor/respect thing that we have in regards to the old threads on DV - which is the same reason most of the threads in the DV Favorites forum are locked, the preserve that thread and prevent it from being mucked up by new, random posts that serve no purpose. Not to say every old thread should be locked, but unless you have something worthwhile to add to it, leave it alone.

Exactly, so it is not reviving the thread, it's the content of the post.

I have been on DV for a long time and I do not mind nor care if someone brings up an old thread. In fact, it is like a friendly reminder of the old days - even if the post the person made was pointless. It does give others a chance to read it again.

I respect the threads and the old posts even more since they are brought back up. I do not want to let me rot away on the servers database. I have no problem with necro-posting.

Otherwise, shouldn't all threads over a year old be locked then?

Also, I mention the searchin option because it is hypocritical to tell people to not revive threads but then also turn around and tell people they are stupid for not using the search option to find an older thread about the topic they recently brought up. Right?
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Originally Posted by O'nus

In fact, it is like a friendly reminder of the old days -

Hey, ditto!

Edit: I would like to know why Nina locked the "old moderator" or whatever thread that was just recently revived. The whole thing was in SB to begin with. I don't see what the big deal is?

I don't see why either....

*goes back into the database*

Now here's an interesting thread. One about our friend O'nus, in fact.

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=6467

Wasn't Kaniaz banned for hacking?

Originally Posted by O'nus

Also, I mention the searchin option because it is hypocritical to tell people to not revive threads but then also turn around and tell people they are stupid for not using the search option to find an older thread about the topic they recently brought up. Right?
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I believe that the problem that we had was that newbies were asking redundant LUCID BASED questions such as "what is a lucid dream?", "how do I wild?", "what is a reality check", etc. instead of doing a search for these OFTEN asked/answered questions.

The issue wasn't that someone wasn't searching before posting a "senseless" topic.

This may have been said before, but if the thread is relevant to something that is affecting the community at the moment, or something that should be reviewed again, necroposting (or Bumping, as some call it) should be permissable. Sometimes we all need a reminder of something from and old thread, or a thread that had a good point but has been forgotten.

Originally Posted by Clairity

I believe that the problem that we had was that newbies were asking redundant LUCID BASED questions such as "what is a lucid dream?", "how do I wild?", "what is a reality check", etc. instead of doing a search for these OFTEN asked/answered questions.

The issue wasn't that someone wasn't searching before posting a "senseless" topic.

It does happen and this potential disciplinary action is subject to this objection. Any content is subject to the "there is already a topic on this, use the search button" complaint as long as the topic already existed.

I did not specify a certain topic (lucid based or not) because of that very reason.

The thread "What does you avatar mean?" was revived and it was funny to look back and compare to what it is now. If it was not revived, then it would simply be the same topic re-introduced without the old members contribution - which makes me sad. I do not mind it being revived because of the humour and retaining old posts from older members (ie. Serinanth).

In any case, I still do not mind random threads being revived because I do not see a good reason to let them be bothersome. Noting that someone did a search and saw something interesting to share by making a random remark is not harmful to anyone and I find it more respectful that someone took the time to revive it even if they do so with random comments.

Don't take it personally when someone looks back and brings an old topic back up. I don't understand why this is upsetting. Is this similar to the kind of irritation that is caused when your little brother hangs out with you and your friends..? Frankly, I did not mind.

If you are going to employ a disciplinary action for reviving old threads, then where are you going to draw the line "you cannot revive threads X old".
More importantly, the question I am asking, is how you would justify it?

Edit; Just a thought - but if you are saying that repeating lucid-based questions are irritating, then why not remove the sections and simply leave it open to the tutorials and faqs? I presume you would not want to do so. Give room for the new people and let them appreaciate old members. I certainly do not mind.
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Point - set - match?

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

Hey, ditto!

Edit: I would like to know why Nina locked the "old moderator" or whatever thread that was just recently revived. The whole thing was in SB to begin with. I don't see what the big deal is?

I locked it, because it was a POLL about moderators...and pretty much none of those people are active anymore so having people go and vote in the poll that is how many years old? when none of you have a clue who those people are? is completely pointless. And in my opinion, it's disrespectful to my old friends. To you they are just names.

That's the main issue I have with necromancing posts. I think it's disrespectful to the older members who were awesome, but no longer around. I hate to see a great thread by truthbearer, jacobo, or paperdoll being shit all over by you people who haven't the first clue of who they are. I mean, you wish you did...but you don't.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

I locked it, because it was a POLL about moderators...and pretty much none of those people are active anymore so having people go and vote in the poll that is how many years old? when none of you have a clue who those people are? is completely pointless. And in my opinion, it's disrespectful to my old friends. To you they are just names.

That's the main issue I have with necromancing posts. I think it's disrespectful to the older members who were awesome, but no longer around. I hate to see a great thread by truthbearer, jacobo, or paperdoll being shit all over by you people who haven't the first clue of who they are. I mean, you wish you did...but you don't.

I'm sorry... but I was f-ing here too. Back then. And I don't think this issue has to be quite so big.

BTW, I know you might look at my join date and try to convince me otherwise, but I was here under a different account (didn't know that I could have just changed my username).

It looks to me like it's some battle between the old members and the new members. How on earth is that healthy for an ever-growing message board.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

I locked it, because it was a POLL about moderators...and pretty much none of those people are active anymore so having people go and vote in the poll that is how many years old? when none of you have a clue who those people are? is completely pointless. And in my opinion, it's disrespectful to my old friends. To you they are just names.

That's the main issue I have with necromancing posts. I think it's disrespectful to the older members who were awesome, but no longer around. I hate to see a great thread by truthbearer, jacobo, or paperdoll being shit all over by you people who haven't the first clue of who they are. I mean, you wish you did...but you don't.

Like I asked, is this not the same irritation like when your younger sibling hangs out with you and your friends?

I understand the poll lock - that seems fair. But not on the grounds of "they are my friends, not yours" sort. Plus, I have yet to see someone obnoxiously disrespect a thread - if this is the case, I would complain about it no matter how old or new the thread is.
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Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

I'm sorry... but I was f-ing here too. Back then. And I don't think this issue has to be quite so big.

BTW, I know you might look at my join date and try to convince me otherwise, but I was here under a different account (didn't know that I could have just changed my username).

It looks to me like it's some battle between the old members and the new members. How on earth is that healthy for an ever-growing message board.

Um...yeah. Calm down.

There is no battle between old members and new members...you're definitely helping this become something alot bigger than it should be.

It's common knowledge that necro-posting on message boards is extremely lame. It's not just like, we don't like it here at DV...its like this everywhere. Some boards even have rules about that sort of thing. No one is posting anything useful in those old threads, there's no sense in bringing back a poll about old moderators, etc.

Haha...your statement about the "ever-growing message board" is a little ironic, considering we don't want people bringing up old senseless threads for no reason, but rather start new ones...for our...ever-growing message board. Wouldn't necro-posting just stunt a forums growth? A newb comes in and reads all these posts from 2003. Yeah, that's really helpful!