Thread: Bow Ties - How to make yourself look like a tryhard clown

Originally Posted by Korittke

Well, I was obviously using the term in an exaggerated manner. But yes, it would mean that you were closed to reasonable debate about a subject of conflict. There is a difference between "not caring" about having a debate and "not caring" about the feelings of "hijabists" as I like to call them, just as there is a difference between "not caring" about the life and physical well-being of someone and "not caring" about which topping you get on your pizza. The one is caring about "feelings" (offense) which can be avoided by simply avoiding offensive content. We don't just ban porn because Catholics find it offensive. We tell them "hey guys, this site contains porn" and they are free to leave. The other is caring about the exchange of ideas to come to a mutually acceptable conclusion in civilized (or uncivilized) discourse. Well, really any kind of discourse is OK with me as long as it's there and based on a common perception of the level of honesty, seriousness etc. They are very different indeed.

As has been said: The hijab is not a simple matter of "what sort of topping you want on your pizza."

Originally Posted by korittke

My thread wasn't closed to discussion, until... well, it was closed. It might not have been the grandmother of cuteness itself, but it was still to be open to critical response from the jury. I would have liked to see a debate evolve about possible substitutes for the jihab. And when I say substitutes, I mean HOT substitutes. OH yeahhhh...

You have only the inflammatory way in which you started the thread to blame for that. You can't expect (allegedly) mature conversation to stem from a juvenile premise. Personally, I have no desire to see that thread re-opened, if you honestly wish to have mature discussion on the subject, I would suggest you try again, with at least some cognizance of the conversational tone you are setting.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

You have only the inflammatory way in which you started the thread to blame for that. You can't expect (allegedly) mature conversation to stem from a juvenile premise. Personally, I have no desire to see that thread re-opened, if you honestly wish to have mature discussion on the subject, I would suggest you try again, with at least some cognizance of the conversational tone you are setting.

Well, I said there has to be a common denominator in terms of what constitutes the basis of the conversation. I didn't intend the thread to produce mature conversation. If I had, I would have made a whole different thread... I intended it to produce a discussion on the premise of profanity, subjectivity and general exchange of personal sexual preferences, as well as any level of creativity, humor, tastelessness and disrespect that could be fit into it.

Basically, what the internets were made for.