Thread: ~ * Ask me about Picking Up Women * ~

This is not SB; GTFO.

I have commented in red to your post, and added more at the end. Let me know your thoughts.

Originally Posted by Jorge

I wish you would have brought more in your post. Why is it that you disagree? Do you know from experience? Let me post an Article a close friend of mine has written. Read it and let me know your thoughts.

Here's the Article:

Not Good Looking? Who Cares!

by The Player

Before we begin let me start off with a brief analogy...

By now I’m sure that you must have read about body language on this site, so you should know that even though most people spend a large majority of their lives talking... roughly 90% of the communication done between two people is actually non-verbal. With that said I can now move on to the main subject at hand, because in theory the game of dating and seduction as a whole works in a very similar fashion.

Allow me to explain :

Even though the modern world that we live in may place a huge emphasis on the way people look... in actuality your looks can only be given credit for about 10% of your ability to pick up women. ~ hard to validate this claim. Initial attraction is surely close to 90% looks, granted this would depreciate faster than the value of the dollar as you get to know someone better, if your looks even got you far enough to be able to engage in conversation. You have to get your foot in the door, and that my friend is done on looks alone! You telling me that any guy, regardless of looks has a shot with any girl... Not buying it.

If that is the case, then what makes up the other 90%? Read on...

In reality, the only thing that good looks can do for a man is get visual attention from women... meaning that if you look like a male model women will most likely notice you faster than other men, which might seem like a good thing, but that is not always the case. ~ Don't agree, it gets you the foot in the door when first meeting a girl who you are interested in. If she spots you, you get the visual attention but she is not drawn to you, or attracted to you, game over. So by this rationale looks in fact are closer to 100% importance at outset.

Throughout the history of human beings the males have been granted the role of the predator, and in turn females would take on the role of the prey. This is why women are naturally inclined to sit back and let the men come to them and express their interest, then make the decision to pursue a relationship or not. I’m sure you are familiar with this concept, so with that in mind why would the way you look mean much at all? It’s not like you will have women approaching you no matter how good you look, because that is the MAN’S role. ~ This is about as socially unacceptable as saying it is the womans job to cook, clean and look after the man. The pertinant word here is 'history'. This is not history anymore, this is now and women have more power and respect than ever, so thinking like this is moronic and if anything, work against you. Giving the "I am man, I want..." approach I would have though would get you anywhere.

Master seducers know this, and that is why they do not waste their time worrying about if they look perfect, because that is the WOMAN’S role. Plus, a real player knows that he has the ability and skill to get any woman that he wants... all he needs to do is approach them and begin flirting. It does not matter if the girl is attracted to him at first sight or not, because he knows that he will get her regardless once the conversation ensues. ~ I don't even know where to start with this point... How shauvinist is this statement. Seducers and players?

There are millions of men out there, right now, that are constantly worrying about how they look... and I’d be willing to bet that over half of them have no REAL skill when it comes to attracting and picking up women. They think that if they look their best the women will simply come running... but it never happens.

However, there are a select few who have taken the time to learn what really matters in the dating game, and even though they may still groom themselves properly... they understand that looks just get you to the door, while the rest is what gets you through it. ~ I reiterate the point I was alluding to earlier. If looks don't get you to the door, then what good is it that you can bullshit your way into being with the girl?

I am one of those men (but I have’nt always been), and I have dedicated my life to teaching guys just like you what I’ve learned through years of experience. If there was a "Seduction 101" course taught in college, I would most likely be a professor at one. However, the world is not like that and probably never will be... and up until now it has been up to guys to learn how to deal with women themselves, through trial and error.

I really do think this type of attitude and arrogance will get you girls, but are they the type of girls you would want to be with? No self respecting girl is going to want to be with a player, or someone who thinks they're gods gift when they're not. Trust me when I say this, and here is living proof ((http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=67391) looks are important.

I would love to welcome some thoughts from the opposite sex here. I just don't think you can expect to be with who ever you want just because you cna talk the talk. I am not saying that having a great personality and being able to talk to a girl and make her laugh is not important, not at all, I just don't think you can brush off the importance of attraction.

Originally Posted by Jorge

Ok, this is quite easy actually. You might not like the answer though. Also, whatever you do DON'T ask her if she likes you. That will drive her away as quick as you can ask her that.There's 2 positions a girl can put you in...

The Friend Zone..and..The Possible Relationship Position

Obviously you do NOT want to be in the friend zone. The good news is that if you are, it can be changed but will take some time.

Let me ask you a question when you guys talk do these things happen?

• Does she Lead the Conversation?
• Does she talk to you about her ex-bf?
• Does she say "your such a good friend"
• Does she talk to you about her problems?

If she does, I am sorry but you are in The Friend Zone, once she classifies you as a friend. It will be awkward and weird when you try to game her. Not only will it break the friendship, but she will feel awkward whenever she's around you. So my friend..are you in the friend zone? If you are, then No she doesn't like you.

Hmm... No, those things don't really happen. But that doesn't automatically mean she likes me.

By the looks of that chart, I have been in the friend zone so many times before!

And yeah, I agree, just asking her would be really bad. I know her friends, maybe I could ask them, in a less direct manner. Would that be good?

Oh, and another question: Where should I ask her out if/when I find out she likes me? Also when?

I swear, if this works out, I will owe you my soul.

Originally Posted by Jorge

My Purpose

Now first things first. I am here to help men achieve success with women. The type of men that are nervous approaching, nervous to have a convo. Think women are godly and should be on a pedestal. I'm here to help men that have no idea how to get a women and have a relationship if they desire..

I believe any man can pick-up women, looks do not matter as much as someone thinks. It's only about 10% on your game, that I am sure of. Neither is being fat, or short, or anything you believe is a obstacle that you think keeps you from getting women you want..

I want to help all men willing to help themselves in the things I advise them to do..




Questions can deal with anything..

1. Approaching
2. Interest
3. Attraction
4. Comfort
5. Escalation
6. Close

I have been studying the art of seduction for many years, and I've become quite good at it. I want to help any guy willing to try and help himself with women. So now it just comes down to...

What's your problem?

Hah I picked up the most amazing girl by talking politics. I transcend the laws of picking up girls

And she happened to be the most amazing girl I have ever met.

Lol the fist time I met her I got lost and ended up taking a 60 mile U turn.

Originally Posted by aceofspades

Hah I picked up the most amazing girl by talking politics. I transcend the laws of picking up girls

And she happened to be the most amazing girl I have ever met.

Lol the fist time I met her I got lost and ended up taking a 60 mile U turn.

Wow talk about a unique pick-up. Congrats bro, if any problems come about feel free to come and ask why's she doing this, or acting a certain way. etc etc. I'm only here to help those who are serious to help themselves.

Originally Posted by suttsman

Hmm... No, those things don't really happen. But that doesn't automatically mean she likes me.

By the looks of that chart, I have been in the friend zone so many times before!

And yeah, I agree, just asking her would be really bad. I know her friends, maybe I could ask them, in a less direct manner. Would that be good?

Oh, and another question: Where should I ask her out if/when I find out she likes me? Also when?

I swear, if this works out, I will owe you my soul.

First let me ask you, what age are you and the girls ?

Your right, just because the chart says your not in her friends zone, it doesn't mean she likes you as well. That chart's purpose was to see if you are in the friends zone because once your there, it's hard to get out of.


Asking her friends, is something kids do in elementary and some of highschool. That's not what you want to do. Take her on a date somewhere, I recommend that you take her to the mall. It's a fun, great atmosphere and there's so many unique ways to build attraction.

So let me introduce a unique technique to you. It's called SOE

Statement of Expectation

And what that is, is basically as the title says, make a statement of expectment. Examples:

Me: What do you prefer coffee or tea? (Indirect Question)
Girl:Coffee why?
Me:I know this little cafe' with the best imported European espresso machines, let's go you can buy me a cup.<---SOE

Another example:

Me: I really like Italian Cuisine! What's your favorite?
Girl:Mexican Food.
Me:Great there's this new Aztec restaurant that I have been dying to try we can go thursday night, I am told their Playa del Tostadas are great! SOE

Those my friends is whats called Statements of Expectation, it is so much greater than asking the typical boring:

"Would you like to go to dinner with me?"


It's works so much better, and increases your success major! You have just told her to go on a date with you in a polite and enticing way, and she will love it.


So use your own knowledge and come up with an SOE to ask her when you guys are talking, and mention where your going in a simliar fashion.

Also, don't worry about finding out if she likes, you take her to the mall. Display Leadership, and just having a great fun time. Bring positive energy when you two are there walking around. I also recommend you go in those little booths where you take pictures, and do funny poses as memories you'll both have, and have her create attraction towards you.

Have a lot of eye contact with her. Touch her on her arms, when walking that's called kino. Touch her a lot when you can. Have you ever been touched by a women and all of a sudden a sexual thought comes to mind? That's the power of kino, and it works much more stronger on women. Do it in a subtle way, and as much as you can.

Let me know if there's anything else you want to learn.

Originally Posted by Jorge

First let me ask you, what age are you and the girls ?

Your right, just because the chart says your not in her friends zone, it doesn't mean she likes you as well. That chart's purpose was to see if you are in the friends zone because once your there, it's hard to get out of.


Asking her friends, is something kids do in elementary and some of highschool. That's not what you want to do. Take her on a date somewhere, I recommend that you take her to the mall. It's a fun, great atmosphere and there's so many unique ways to build attraction.

So let me introduce a unique technique to you. It's called SOE

Statement of Expectation

And what that is, is basically as the title says, make a statement of expectment. Examples:

Me: What do you prefer coffee or tea? (Indirect Question)
Girl:Coffee why?
Me:I know this little cafe' with the best imported European espresso machines, let's go you can buy me a cup.<---SOE

Another example:

Me: I really like Italian Cuisine! What's your favorite?
Girl:Mexican Food.
Me:Great there's this new Aztec restaurant that I have been dying to try we can go thursday night, I am told their Playa del Tostadas are great! SOE

Those my friends is whats called Statements of Expectation, it is so much greater than asking the typical boring:

"Would you like to go to dinner with me?"


It's works so much better, and increases your success major! You have just told her to go on a date with you in a polite and enticing way, and she will love it.


So use your own knowledge and come up with an SOE to ask her when you guys are talking, and mention where your going in a simliar fashion.

Also, don't worry about finding out if she likes, you take her to the mall. Display Leadership, and just having a great fun time. Bring positive energy when you two are there walking around. I also recommend you go in those little booths where you take pictures, and do funny poses as memories you'll both have, and have her create attraction towards you.

Have a lot of eye contact with her. Touch her on her arms, when walking that's called kino. Touch her a lot when you can. Have you ever been touched by a women and all of a sudden a sexual thought comes to mind? That's the power of kino, and it works much more stronger on women. Do it in a subtle way, and as much as you can.

Let me know if there's anything else you want to learn.

I'm 16, they're between 15 and 16.

The SOE thing looks like it could work! Thanks! And I can think of an example that could work well.

Lol, that whole booth thing seems like one of those cheesy moments in a movie. But hey, whatever you say...

Edit: Oh! I just remembered something! Is it a problem if she doesn't like how my friends act? She seems to hate one of my friends especially.

Cool, I respect your input on your thoughts. However respectfully I don't agree with them. It's life there's always, disagreements, issues, and problems. It's all how we deal with them. So once again thank you for that.


It will take too much time to reply to your thoughts, and a waste of time on both our part, and I'm here just to help guys that want to be helped.

However I will reply back to one of your thoughts and it's this one..

Originally Posted by Adam

I just don't think you can expect to be with who ever you want just because you Can talk the talk. I am not saying that having a great personality and being able to talk to a girl and make her laugh is not important, not at all, I just don't think you can brush off the importance of attraction.

I didn't say you can be with whoever you want just by talking. Of course there's so many parts in seduction, There's Interest, Attraction, Escaltion, and then you close. Close as in getting her number, going to an after party, getting her e-mail etc..

And those are just the 5 subjects in seduction, there's so much more to each subject and how it is supposed to be done. I am not in anyway emphasizing that you can "say this" or "say that" and you will get the girl. NO that is impossible. You must have both Inner Game and Outer Game.

When I say Game, I don't mean stupid little kid games, but real social dynamics that you must learn and improve on to get a girl attracted to you. There's so much more to learn, I'm simply giving them a quick approach to there situation, I am however going to post more information on doing a whole make-over change, because that's what it takes. Improvement in all subject necessary to be able to pick-up girls.

I just disagree with you, yes Good Looks will catch a girls eye, but if you have no game at all she will drop you like a hot fuckin potato. That I can guarantee, just because you have good looks, does not mean you will get the girl. And The Opposite effects are here too, just because your looks are not that great, doesn't mean you can't pick-up girls. It's how you are on the inside, and by inside I'm not talking about "Being Nice" "Being Kind" and saying "Your so beautiful.." NO that will get you no where!


I also wanted to comment this part as well:

[QUOTE=Adam;934250]


I really do think this type of attitude and arrogance will get you girls, but are they the type of girls you would want to be with? No self respecting girl is going to want to be with a player, or someone who thinks they're gods gift when they're not. Trust me when I say this, and here is living proof ((http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=67391) looks are important.

QUOTE]


Adam, you are taking it too far with the mindset they are trying to get across. Most men that need help are AFC's (Average Frustrated Chumps) that's where they need to move on from. They need to improve themselves, because they think of themselves lowly. Some think in there head "I'll never be able to get a girl" or "Girls just don't like me" blah blah blah BULLSHIT!

Any guy can pick up a women, but first you need to improve himself.

The word "Player" that is being used, is his style. Not what were trying to make guys become, although if they desire they can do that as well. When gaming girls, your never suppose to be Majorly Cocky. No that is bad and will drive women away because your just too cocky. Being Cocky is good so a certain point, then your just considered an asshole by the women.

Actually what we teach Adam, is to pick up a High Quality Women, so your statement is incorrect. There's plenty of men who can pick up quality women. The women that have the whole package. The women that most men will consider "Out of their League" but it's not impossible to learn, you just must know what information to learn.

A self-respecting woman, is a woman that expects a man to be a true man. When a guy walks in the club to a girl like that and he Say's "Can I buy you a drink?" She already puts him in a beta position, a lower position. she already knows she's not going home to sleep with this guy. And she will most likely quickly reject him.

What we teach at The Paragon Project, is to become a real man. A man that has high standards when gaming women. A man that goes and approaches a women he's interested in without being scared. A man that lives his life the way he wants, a man that lives life on his own terms.

We are all about improvement, and that is what my goal is here in this thread. To help other men, become Real Men with no fears on picking-up women.

This discussion is done.

This is terrible. I read an excerpt from the Paragon Project book thing.

It talks about basically stepping on 'lower-rank' women to gain access to the ones you really want.

Getting and Using Pivots & Pawns

In order to get women to the point of being either a pivot or pawn for your future use, you will obviously need to meet and game them as you would normally any other girl that you are interested in for other reasons. However, dealing with pivots and pawns is not a give/take relationship, and you should try to express as little sexual interest in them as possible until you have mastered this technique.

:/

Good luck with it but this really isnt for me.

Originally Posted by Dizko

This is terrible. I read an excerpt from the Paragon Project book thing.

It talks about basically stepping on 'lower-rank' women to gain access to the ones you really want.



:/

Good luck with it but this really isnt for me.

“There’s 2 types of people in this world; the type who step on others to get where they are going… and the type with footprints on their forehead.”

No, Dizko you mis-understood. It isn't about "maniuplation" but "empowering" to not only attract girls, but to make dating more enjoyable as well. This is about helping guys recognize and embrace their own attractive selves...and in the process, it frees them up to provide enjoyable interactions to the girls that used to ignore them.

So if your worried about "using girls" that's incorrect because were actually doing girls a favor by educating guys to be more attractive, more fun, and more desirable.

There’s no stepping involved at all. Pivots and Pawns are basically just friends of yours that are girls and you keep them around you to raise your own status. You don’t treat them bad in any way. It’s actually in your best interest to treat them with respect so they hold you in even higher regard.

Originally Posted by Jorge

It's worked couple time's? That's great! Now let's see what can work more than a couple times for this guy, I want to offer him only quality proven advice that works more than a couple times.



Taking risk is great, taking a risk when you don't need to, and taking the risk will hurt your chances at achieving your goal..then it's a stupid one to take.


Why ask her if she likes you when you can find out from her actions? Once you find out from her actions if she likes you or not, you progress between you to and turn it into an actual relationship or whatever you desire?


If on the other hand you ask her "do you like me?" and she says "No." then basically you hurt your chances than if you wouldn't have asked her. Don't take unnecessary risk that will only hurt your chances at getting the girl.

You need to brush up on your game, man. It's time to stop over analyzing things and stop being a pussy and just do it. If you like a girl, and she says yes, then it's great. But there's too many girls to keep dwelling on one forever and thinking about the counteractions and reactions and all this bullshit.

Like seriously, 'taking risks'?! This isn't life or death, dude. There are a lot of chicks out there, don't just focus on one girl. If you fail or are in the friend zone just move on. It's her loss if a girl doesn't like you back. I'm speaking generally here.


Buy my book, $19.99!

Originally Posted by Grod

You need to brush up on your game, man. It's time to stop over analyzing things and stop being a pussy and just do it. If you like a girl, and she says yes, then it's great. But there's too many girls to keep dwelling on one forever and thinking about the counteractions and reactions and all this bullshit.

Like seriously, 'taking risks'?! This isn't life or death, dude. There are a lot of chicks out there, don't just focus on one girl. If you fail or are in the friend zone just move on. It's her loss if a girl doesn't like you back. I'm speaking generally here.


Buy my book, $19.99!

Your taking my "taking risk" way out of proportion. If that works for you then great. You actually do have some useful information from your post.

Never pedestal a girl. Don't put all your time and attention on 1 girl. That is something that's worst and you end up with ' one-itis ' basically you can't get this girl out of your head and you end up getting into a deeper level of feeling attraction for her. You can't stop thinking about her, you will do ANYTHING it takes to get this 1 girl. That my friends is one-itis.


If you are in the friend zone then yes, it is way better to move on and game another chick than to actual get the friend your after.

And if you believe what I'm sharing is Bullshit, then you can never come back to this thread again.


My fellow DV members, if you are wondering if you are over-analyzing you are not. You are simply learning what it takes to get a woman attracted to you and that attraction is very strong towards you.

What I've learned from The Paragon Project, is simply far advanced and some unfortunate people don't understand the concepts behind them. All concepts I teach are to Improve.

Have a good day.

Originally Posted by Jorge

“There’s 2 types of people in this world; the type who step on others to get where they are going… and the type with footprints on their forehead.”

No, Dizko you mis-understood. It isn't about "maniuplation" but "empowering" to not only attract girls, but to make dating more enjoyable as well. This is about helping guys recognize and embrace their own attractive selves...and in the process, it frees them up to provide enjoyable interactions to the girls that used to ignore them.

So if your worried about "using girls" that's incorrect because were actually doing girls a favor by educating guys to be more attractive, more fun, and more desirable.

There’s no stepping involved at all. Pivots and Pawns are basically just friends of yours that are girls and you keep them around you to raise your own status. You don’t treat them bad in any way. It’s actually in your best interest to treat them with respect so they hold you in even higher regard.

Ah okay so they are just friends?

Okay thats cool, sorry i misunderstood.

Still i think this all all a bit over analysed for me, i feel i have to confidence needed and im happy to just 'go for it'. Im sure it helps people and i wish you all the best.

Originally Posted by Jorge

Never pedestal a girl. Don't put all your time and attention on 1 girl. That is something that's worst and you end up with ' one-itis ' basically you can't get this girl out of your head and you end up getting into a deeper level of feeling attraction for her. You can't stop thinking about her, you will do ANYTHING it takes to get this 1 girl. That my friends is one-itis.

You've clearly never met anyone worth fighting for then... I guess I'm in the wrong place. I don't want to 'game girls' as you put it. I would rather have one person worth being with because I cannot get her out of my head, and have just one girl have my attention. But that's just me

Originally Posted by Jorge

“There’s 2 types of people in this world; the type who step on others to get where they are going… and the type with footprints on their forehead.”

Oh yeah, this was a joke by the way

Originally Posted by Adam

You've clearly never met anyone worth fighting for then... I guess I'm in the wrong place. I don't want to 'game girls' as you put it. I would rather have one person worth being with because I cannot get her out of my head, and have just one girl have my attention. But that's just me

Yeah I used to to think like that too bro, but look at it this way. Let's say this girl, that's all in your head. All your focus is on her, is all her focus on you? Is she really thinking about you just as much as you are her?

Showing too much interest to a girl when she isn't matching your level of interest your displaying, then you are in for problems.

Say this girl is a really good looking one. She's had guys compliment her all the time. She know's she's goodlooking. Almost all the guys have told her "lets go to dinner" or "lets go to the movies" doing this is not only predicatble but boring! I'm not saying you do that, but have you ever?

You must be that fun, outgoing, guy that the girls will love. Don't be like everyone else and do the predicable things everybody does.

If you think this information is too much, then I wish you bro's luck. If you ever need help, just PM me.


goodluck

You know what ALWAYS works?

The "do I know you from somewhere" line. Man it works like a fucking charm. Only if you're in highschool or college though.

Simple.

It doesn't matter if the girl is in the mall, at the library, or even at work. I've used it all over the place. In fact, I just used it at some chick who worked at Chipotle. It was quite nice.

It goes a little something like this.

Girl: *is looking rather attractive*
Yourself: Hey, you look familiar. Is your name *insert random name*?
Girl: *confused*... No.
Yourself: *slightly questionable* Do you go to *insert local highschool/college*?
Girl: Yes.
Yourself: Okay, crap. I know this girl who looks exactly like you, but I don't know her too well. I know some people from *insert previously stated school*, though. Who do you hang out with?
Girl: *girl talks about several people*
Yourself: *if you know stated people, continue normal conversation, if not, continue random conversation*.

You're in like a pin.

It just takes common ground to start a conversation, when you don't know anyone at all.

Originally Posted by Mark75

Ok, I got her to my house. Now how do I get her to stop screaming for help?

LOLZff

Originally Posted by AmazeO XD

You know what ALWAYS works?

The "do I know you from somewhere" line. Man it works like a fucking charm. Only if you're in highschool or college though.

Simple.

It doesn't matter if the girl is in the mall, at the library, or even at work. I've used it all over the place. In fact, I just used it at some chick who worked at Chipotle. It was quite nice.

It goes a little something like this.

Girl: *is looking rather attractive*
Yourself: Hey, you look familiar. Is your name *insert random name*?
Girl: *confused*... No.
Yourself: *slightly questionable* Do you go to *insert local highschool/college*?
Girl: Yes.
Yourself: Okay, crap. I know this girl who looks exactly like you, but I don't know her too well. I know some people from *insert previously stated school*, though. Who do you hang out with?
Girl: *girl talks about several people*
Yourself: *if you know stated people, continue normal conversation, if not, continue random conversation*.

You're in like a pin.

It just takes common ground to start a conversation, when you don't know anyone at all.

I'll try that.

What if she's your best friend, and she has a best friend that is also your friend...I'll give fake names.

I'm Jon. My intrest is Alice. Her friend is Jenny. I'm best freinds with both of them. Jenny knows I like Alice. She doesn't want me to though, because it would be akward. Alice, I don't know if she likes me or not. I'm considering leaving it as it is, so everyone's happy except me, so I take the nut-shot so Alice and Jenny don't have to deal with it. Right desicion or not?

Originally Posted by xXSomeGuyXx

I'll try that.

What if she's your best friend, and she has a best friend that is also your friend...I'll give fake names.

I'm Jon. My intrest is Alice. Her friend is Jenny. I'm best freinds with both of them. Jenny knows I like Alice. She doesn't want me to though, because it would be akward. Alice, I don't know if she likes me or not. I'm considering leaving it as it is, so everyone's happy except me, so I take the nut-shot so Alice and Jenny don't have to deal with it. Right desicion or not?

Not right. Tell Alice. The whole "you look familiar" is only for girls you don't know.

Man, you just gotta tell "Alice" how it is. If she's one of your best friends, she'll understand.

Don't be all about it, but at least let her know how you feel.

Something like "I don't want it to mess up our friendship, but I know I have some sort of feelings for you, and I was wondering if you had those too?"

If she says no, that's it. You're still her friend, and you know now.

You shouldn't risk your happiness because those two girls will get jealous, angry, etc etc.

Alright. I'll take the nut-shot for a little then pull that one. Thanks!

Originally Posted by xXSomeGuyXx

Alright. I'll take the nut-shot for a little then pull that one. Thanks!

Do me a favor someguy, when you do that, come back here and post what happens. And be completely honest, I'd appreciate that.


Goodluck bro.

Originally Posted by Jorge

And if you believe what I'm sharing is Bullshit, then you can never come back to this thread again.

Don't think like this! It's really not that hard to get a girl. It's people like you that make it out to be something up on a pedestal. It's only as hard as you make it.

For some guys it is really hard to get a girl. If you can go right now, and walk to a mall are you able to pick up at least 3 girls? This is what I am trying to teach.

I Never put a girl up on a pedestal.