Thread: Mario for N64 is the WORST GAME EVER

lol - the fact that the developers were inexperienced when they made SM64 doesn't change the fact that the game sucked. It might be an excuse, but the game sucked anyway. Don't spend a penny on it.

and I don't get it, de-loused

Originally Posted by Kromoh

and I don't get it, de-loused

You probably wouldn't since you don't like M64.

Yay.... ..!?

Dood, Mario 64 dun't suck.

Sarcrilege! Burn him!

Mario on 64 is such an awesome game, don't diss it. Zelda Oot is officially the best game out there though.

LOL if you think SM64 is good and Z:OoT is the best, then you certainly haven't played any *good* game yet.

Try Zelda - The Minish Cap for the GBA. The only problem with that game is that you get rupees too easily, but then again, who cares..
Try Zelda - The Phantom Hourglass for the DS. Can't say it's the best I've played, but it's Zelda and it's better than OoT.

I say and insist: SM64 is overrated for being a classic.

Originally Posted by Forsaken

The control is much better with the real N64 control BTW.

actually, I can believe that.

(to original poster) since you mentioned having it on emulator, I'm assuming that's what you played it on, cuz otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it.

we're talking about Mario 64, right? the hell, I thought this game was fun. I played it both on original console and DS.

I had problems with emulator controls for some games, though. I hooked up my ps2 controller to play some super mario world on zsnes, and don't remember the controls being so slippery, it was very frustrating to play.

so yeah, it's the fact you're playing on emulator that makes the experience so unpleasant.....

lol Yes, I did play it on an emulator, but I also played every other game I know, including an everlasting list of games I actually have the cartridge, on the emulator. And when I say this game sucks, it's because I have a lot to compare to. Come on, I have GB games which are less slippery when you're walking on ice *.*

Well, good thing you didn't pay for it then?

Oh wait, if you had then you would have been able to play it properly.

Originally Posted by Kromoh

lol Yes, I did play it on an emulator, but I also played every other game I know, including an everlasting list of games I actually have the cartridge, on the emulator

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A BABY
YOU WOULDN'T SHOOT A POLICEMAN
THEN STEAL HIS HELMET!
YOU WOULDN'T GO TO THE TOILET IN HIS HELMET
THEN GIVE IT TO HIS GRIEVING WIDOW
THEN STEAL IT AGAIN!

For hating it so much you sure love talking about it. =)

Originally Posted by Jorge

For hating it so much you sure love talking about it. =)

What's your point.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

What's your point.

What's yours?

Though I agree about all those problems in SM64, I definitely don't think it's the WORST GAME EVER.

Btw, I totally agree...Majoras Mask was way better than Ocarina of Time ^.^

Kromoh...I think you're mad just because you can't beat it... It's okay man.. It can be a tough game for some.

Mario 64 is definitely not the worse game ever, it's a bad ass game.

Did you ever even play it as a kid? I'll admit, half the game is the nostalgia of staying up all night as a kid trying to get some of those damn stars, and the satisfaction of finally beating Bowser. Good times...

I think you really just aren't good at the game. I never had a problem with it. The camera was a bit funky at times, but never anything else.

Lol stop saying I disliked it for having trouble to beat it people, I did beat the game in the same time I would any other. You didn't watch me play, so shut the fuck up mouth about it.

And I only made such a long rant because all those stupid people like you told me this was such a great game, then I go all excited to play it and see that.

If you really think the game didn't suck, why don't you refute to the reasons I stated in the first post? You just can't deny those are all true.

Originally Posted by Jorge

For hating it so much you sure love talking about it. =)

I have a love/hate relationship with street fighter, and those feelings will be caused due to whether I win or lose in any given game

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Lol stop saying I disliked it for having trouble to beat it people, I did beat the game in the same time I would any other. You didn't watch me play, so shut the fuck up mouth about it.

Well. Someone sure is being bitter about a mere video game. What else is next on your whining list? The fact that Tetris becomes progressively more difficult as the tetrominoes fall faster?

Do everyone here a favor and cry us a river over the fact that no one here cares about a personal vendetta you have against a video game that everyone else loves. Oh, wait a minute...you already have. Silly me. Sorry. Don't mind me.

Originally Posted by Bayside

I wholeheartedly disagree.

Completely..

I played and loved Super Mario 64.. Got all the stars... for a lousy 100 lives and talk to Yoshi.. That was disappointing.

Worst game ever, ET. They buried them in the desert.


And to the OP... Majoras Mask flawless and OOT is not.... OOT hands down winner over Majoras Crap even on the day the sun doesn't rise.

P.S. If you want a giant plot, don't purchase a Mario game.

Go purchase an RPG.


P.S.S Kromoh, who died and made you king of all video games... You probably never even owned an Intellivision or an Atari. You may not like Super Mario 64, going into it expecting a new Mario plot... Was kinda silly.. Or expecting the same experience you had in Super Mario World or Super Mario 3 then you are naive.. Games change, swing or a miss.... Super Mario 64 was a swing, now you want to talk about crappy games bring up a game that is actually 100% garbage. Not a game considered by the gaming world to be a classic.

Example of crappy nintendo game... Luigi's Mansion. or the entire virtual boy system.

Thank you.


P.S.S.S - I've played games with far worse camera angles than m64.. A few spots are annoying but the majority of the time you can at least easily adjust yourself.

You make Mario 64 bad because you had a difficult time playing it, maybe platformers aren't your style of game. I was able to beat that game at a younger age.... Many hours of playing ... but nonetheless possible.

Now to make it worse, the controls shift when you enter water. Which means, you have to do a miracle every time you enter or leave a body of water if you want to continue moving. Furthermore, the underwater controls are terrible and won't let you dive or go back up without moving forward.

LOL do nintendo programmers have any idea of what real walking actually feels like? I doubt it. If they did, they wouldn't make mario's walking majorly slippery in EVERY GAME. I know games that are less slippery when you are walking on ice. I have a theory that nintendo programmers just sit there all day and so have no idea of what walking is.

I never had any hard time maneuvering in the water. A miracle, just don't try to move up at the wall and you'll be all set full.. The bodies of water always give you plenty of space to move about...

Majorly slippery?? You mean mario doesn't stop on a dime when he's running, like real life.
You have a theory, I have one also...

To make the situation worse, mario will only start walking in the direction he was already facing before, which only adds up to the slippery walking and makes it a test of nerves to even walk on virtually flat ground. Yes, virtually flat, because if the ground is inclined by even 1 single degree, mario will start sliding down for the silliest reason, and it takes forever to get him back up, if you are able at all.

Do you have no coordination?

Mario's attack has a microscopic range. It's so little that enemies may still do damage when in front of you. Mario doesn't move to attack, which means you have to guess when exactly he's gonna decide to actually hit the enemy to press the attack button. That, added with the horrible walking controls makes you pretty much of an ant in the game. Nintendo has a history of making mario games hard, and in fact, the only one which wasn't so hard became the most popular one (super mario world). Hard is hard - this game is not hard, it's ridiculous. Don't play this game too much or you might have a nervous breakdown.

Should we have given mario a sword??
An ant, I had no problem beating the entire game. Difficult at times, annoying to get a few of the stars... I had no nervous breakdowns, sounds like a mental problem.. Taking video games that serious.

Then, when you think flying might do the job instead of walking... flying is a joke. The controls are so terrible that I had to use savestates and reload 15 times to get a single coin. And no, I'm not a bad player - I can beat mario world with small mario and not dying once. So if this game was hard for me, expect equal or worse for you.

Flying is pretty obnoxious. Good thing theirs not a whole lot of flying, the looking up at the sun flying challenge was by far the hardest part of the game.

Originally Posted by DeathCell

And to the OP... Majoras Mask flawless and OOT is not.... OOT hands down winner over Majoras Crap even on the day the sun doesn't rise.

Give me reasons as to why.

P.S.S Kromoh, who died and made you king of all video games... You probably never even owned an Intellivision or an Atari. You may not like Super Mario 64, going into it expecting a new Mario plot... Was kinda silly.. Or expecting the same experience you had in Super Mario World or Super Mario 3 then you are naive.. Games change, swing or a miss.... Super Mario 64 was a swing, now you want to talk about crappy games bring up a game that is actually 100% garbage. Not a game considered by the gaming world to be a classic.

Seriously everyone. Stop trying to assume what I think or not. I never played SM64 expecting to have the same experience I had in a previous game. I have played far too many games to know that, unlike some of you may think. I was just criticising the game for the terrible quality, when when I say something is of poor quality, I mean that it could have been much, much better. FYI, I did own an Atari.

I wouldn't make such a long rant about a game which really is considered a total failure. Take Eragon for the GB. My point with this thread was to criticise a game I personally think that sucked major ass, even though many people think of it as a high-standard game.

Example of crappy nintendo game... Luigi's Mansion. or the entire virtual boy system.

Example of crappy Zelda game: The Legend of Zelda 2. But the difference is, people just don't irrevocably love that game like they do SM64. if people did, I'd criticise that game the same way.

P.S.S.S - I've played games with far worse camera angles than m64.. A few spots are annoying but the majority of the time you can at least easily adjust yourself.

You make Mario 64 bad because you had a difficult time playing it, maybe platformers aren't your style of game. I was able to beat that game at a younger age.... Many hours of playing ... but nonetheless possible.

I'm not saying the game has the worst camera handling ever - in fact, you are just doing what many people in this thread advised against - comparing games of different styles, platforms, and ages. SM64 is considered a top game, and I think the game sucks - it's a matter of programming thing. I've developed and helped develop many amateurish games, and I have a very critical look on things that can be changed or improved. And believe me when I say, a lot could have been improved in SM64.

I never had any hard time maneuvering in the water. A miracle, just don't try to move up at the wall and you'll be all set full.. The bodies of water always give you plenty of space to move about...

Play Zelda MM, and see what it is to move in the water using the Zora mask. You'll see what I mean by good controls. Fine, easy to adapt to, but still not excluding some difficulty.

Majorly slippery?? You mean mario doesn't stop on a dime when he's running, like real life.
You have a theory, I have one also...

Hey, I run every day. Now let me tell you some news; when I stop, I don't slide some meters and then stop - not even on ice. It only takes one slower step to fully stop. SM64 reminds me of Aladdin for the SNES on terms of walking.

Should we have given mario a sword??
An ant, I had no problem beating the entire game. Difficult at times, annoying to get a few of the stars... I had no nervous breakdowns, sounds like a mental problem.. Taking video games that serious.

LOL I don't mean a sword you idiot. It's a programming thing, as I've said. There is something called attack range, which is the part, or surface, of the characters body that, during an attack, will be immune to damage and will damage enemies. The duration of the attack also adds up to this. Many fighting games are flamed for having imbalanced (too big or small) attack range.

Flying is pretty obnoxious. Good thing theirs not a whole lot of flying, the looking up at the sun flying challenge was by far the hardest part of the game.

We may agree on that

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Give me reasons as to why.




Seriously everyone. Stop trying to assume what I think or not. I never played SM64 expecting to have the same experience I had in a previous game. I have played far too many games to know that, unlike some of you may think. I was just criticising the game for the terrible quality, when when I say something is of poor quality, I mean that it could have been much, much better. FYI, I did own an Atari.

I wouldn't make such a long rant about a game which really is considered a total failure. Take Eragon for the GB. My point with this thread was to criticise a game I personally think that sucked major ass, even though many people think of it as a high-standard game.



Example of crappy Zelda game: The Legend of Zelda 2. But the difference is, people just don't irrevocably love that game like they do SM64. if people did, I'd criticise that game the same way.



I'm not saying the game has the worst camera handling ever - in fact, you are just doing what many people in this thread advised against - comparing games of different styles, platforms, and ages. SM64 is considered a top game, and I think the game sucks - it's a matter of programming thing. I've developed and helped develop many amateurish games, and I have a very critical look on things that can be changed or improved. And believe me when I say, a lot could have been improved in SM64.




Play Zelda MM, and see what it is to move in the water using the Zora mask. You'll see what I mean by good controls. Fine, easy to adapt to, but still not excluding some difficulty.



Hey, I run every day. When I stop, I don't slide some meters and then stop - not even on ice. It only takes one slower step to fully stop. SM64 reminds me of Aladdin for the SNES on terms of walking.




LOL I don't mean a sword you idiot. It's a programming thing, as I've said. There is something called attack range, which is the part, or surface, of the characters body that, during an attack, will be immune to damage and will damage enemies. The duration of the attack also adds up to this. Many fighting games are flamed for having imbalanced (too big or small) attack range.



We may agree on that

Super Mario 64 had some bugs, but all around the game was fun.. Just because you don't have the patience to beat the game doesn't mean it sucks..

The mask changing was annoying in Majoras Mask. The story was ridiculous, the constant changing of time needing to go back.. obnoxious.. I turn on the game and can't remember how to get to the last boss after months... OOT flows far better.

Mario doesn't have an attack range, he jumps on things.

You don't go into a Mario game expecting Zelda handling and vice-versa.. Two different worlds. Both great games.

And don't talk about something complicated like programming when you know nothing about it.