Thread: I am so FUCKING DISGUSTED right now...

It's hard to wrap your head around how some of us become murderers and rapists when we ourselves were once innocent little children.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Yeah, they caught the guy around 3 a.m. He was completely drunk and tried to run from the police. They ended up shooting him in the arm. My friend had to take her daughter in to identify him in a lineup. Her daughter didn't want to go, but she was firm about telling her how important it was that she did it. The girl didn't identify the man, but her mom thinks she was just scared. It didn't really matter, though, because they have already identified him through his DNA. He's being held without bond.

And yeah, I know that wanting to rip the guy's lungs out with a meat hook doesn't really help anything, but I can't really help feeling that way. My friend told me that even the cop who shot the guy (who was a female) said that she said she's glad she didn't kill him, and would much rather let the inmates have their way with him.

You can be assured, the inmates will indeed have "fun".

Originally Posted by Man of Shred

I would kill whoever did this...

nah fuck that, I would hire 20 big dicked homies to come run a train in his ass and make him have internal damage twice that of the girls.

Make sure the bastard can never sit again.

I hope the inmates in prison have a nice fuck toy out of this guy I swear he deserves every ounce of pain he's going to get in jail, I will go as far as saying, I hope the bastard gets stds while that happens too!

He deserves every bit of it imo.

I wish the penalty for rape on the whole planet earth was death by rats, where rats eat you alive while you scream to death.

Death to all rapists, off with their sick demented heads, no mercy, show them the mercy they showed their victims!

gentle for the girl, her family and you Oneironaut.
I hope therapy, religious counseling, and/or an abundance of family and friend support helps her through this horrendous time.
The mom might benefit from the above as well. I'm sure she's carrying a lot of unwarranted (but understandable) guilt and feelings of hopelessness and helplessness.
You're a great friend, O. Thanks for being there for them and being a pillar of support.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Yeah, they caught the guy around 3 a.m. He was completely drunk and tried to run from the police. They ended up shooting him in the arm. My friend had to take her daughter in to identify him in a lineup. Her daughter didn't want to go, but she was firm about telling her how important it was that she did it. The girl didn't identify the man, but her mom thinks she was just scared. It didn't really matter, though, because they have already identified him through his DNA. He's being held without bond.

And yeah, I know that wanting to rip the guy's lungs out with a meat hook doesn't really help anything, but I can't really help feeling that way. My friend told me that even the cop who shot the guy (who was a female) said that she said she's glad she didn't kill him, and would much rather let the inmates have their way with him.

I'm glad to hear he was caught, the police can do their job properly from time to time.

Oneironaut, that is terrible. I think you know my attitude about that sort of thing and what I wish on the scum who did it. I hope the girl will heal physically and emotionally as much as possible.

That's terrible..... how the fuck could someone actually do that?

Originally Posted by Busher94

That's terrible..... how the fuck could someone actually do that?

Horny ugly guys who have a nack for children, or someone to can't say no. Sick fucks.

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A lot of rapes occur within the family. This is just what makes this case twice as bad.

Hell, if I was that cop, I would have shot him in the legs....


...even when he was already down.

Oh I'd love to cut off his testicles.

Nice and slow. Then I'd cut off his fingers. That'd be good.

Then pull out his teeth. And then rape him with a fucking spiked bat.

That's fucking disgusting, and I hope that mother fucker gets raped, beaten, and never dies. Just every day, gets beaten until he's 80 years old. Then someone cuts his wrists and holds him down while he dies a slow painful death.

What a complete nightmare. I'm so sorry to hear this Oneironaut My heart goes out to you all, especially to the little girl.

As for the guy who did this... There but for the grace of God go I. Whatever past he has that led him to make this choice he has surely been suffering and will continue to suffer in his own private hell for the rest of his life.

Kia kaha,
DQ

The amount of agression and hatred expressed in this thread truly scares me.
You can't battle evil by using evil.
And how can you be all "Oh I feel so sorry for you, blabla" whe, you're like "kill the f*cker, shoot him etc"at the same time?

Oh, and if a dog attacked a child, I wouldn't kill it either.
It's just an animal for christs sake.

I'd focus on helping that poor child getting over this horrible event, and making sure she can get on with her life.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

The amount of agression and hatred expressed in this thread truly scares me.
You can't battle evil by using evil.
And how can you be all "Oh I feel so sorry for you, blabla" whe, you're like "kill the f*cker, shoot him etc"at the same time?

Oh, and if a dog attacked a child, I wouldn't kill it either.
It's just an animal for christs sake.

I'd focus on helping that poor child getting over this horrible event, and making sure she can get on with her life.

To be blunt: grow a spine.

Justice isn't evil. There are no inherently evil actions either. Killing isn't evil.
What's evil is doing something with utter disregard for others. Ignorance is evil.
Fortunately, those who have committed crimes lose the benefit of others being considerate of them.

Everyone who commits any sort of crime must be brought to justice, punished.
That punishment is the consequence for those crimes.
If you cannot defend against the consequences, don't commit crimes and don't complain if the punishment is "too much".

There is nothing inherently bad about hatred and aggression, as you put it.
It's where they are aimed that matters.
If you were to go out and slaughter an innocent defenceless child, you'd be evil. But go and slaughter the rapist that kept his own daughter locked up for years and did unthinkable things to her, and you aren't evil, you're bringing justice.

If monsters like this don't have the means to defend against consequences for their actions, too bad.
They lost all rights and freedom the moment they decided to commit such a crime.

Guess I should have become a lawyer.
I always feel like defending whoever comes under attack by anyone, including bad guys.

Originally Posted by Merlock

To be blunt: grow a spine.

Justice isn't evil. There are no inherently evil actions either. Killing isn't evil.
What's evil is doing something with utter disregard for others. Ignorance is evil.
Fortunately, those who have committed crimes lose the benefit of others being considerate of them.

Everyone who commits any sort of crime must be brought to justice, punished.
That punishment is the consequence for those crimes.
If you cannot defend against the consequences, don't commit crimes and don't complain if the punishment is "too much".

There is nothing inherently bad about hatred and aggression, as you put it.
It's where they are aimed that matters.
If you were to go out and slaughter an innocent defenceless child, you'd be evil. But go and slaughter the rapist that kept his own daughter locked up for years and did unthinkable things to her, and you aren't evil, you're bringing justice.

If monsters like this don't have the means to defend against consequences for their actions, too bad.
They lost all rights and freedom the moment they decided to commit such a crime.

I tend to agree with you, but I do also agree with Timothy too.
It's an incredibly compicated issue.
I think we can all agree that the crime is horrific.
I think we can all also agree that to comit such a crime you'd have to have a serious mental illness.
So I think that as well as punishment, we should also make sure that we understand the workings of these kinds of mental illness so that we can help avoid future instances.
Perhaps its genetic? perhaps its psychological.

The question is not just how do we make people pay for the crimes they commit... but how do we as a society learn from such things and make the world a better place in the future.

More importantly than all this, is how do we come together to help the victims of such crimes deal with them.

Not enough money is spent, in my opinion, in helping the victims of crime.

Hate in any form propagates itself...

Any justification otherwise is an excuse to vent hatred towards yourself in another form...

The only way above it is compassion... even for those who would do such hateful acts...

Again...

Hate in any form propagates itself...

Human disasters like this occur all the time and have occurred since the beginning of mankind...

Unfortunately, All of this has happened before and will happen again...

It looks to me like some of you are starting to relate to my lack of sympathy for "tortured" terrorists and executed murderers of the innocent. Where were you when it was me against everybody in those threads?

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

He was completely drunk and tried to run from the police. They ended up shooting him in the arm.

Originally Posted by grasshoppa

I'm glad to hear he was caught, the police can do their job properly from time to time.

They had to shoot a drunk man in the arm just to capture him. He was running away, so I presume he wasn't armed/resisting particularly well.
That doesn't sound like overly effective work to me.

The legal system is there to enact justice. Mindless reactionary violence is unnecessary and only undermines the government and the law that's there to punish and prevent such incidents. Then there's the possiblity that the rapist is disturbed in the first place and not entirely accountable for his own actions.

No-one is saying that something like this can be condoned. Obviously. But that doesn't mean 'anything goes because child rape'.

Urgh...I just made a serious post. Feel uncomfortable. :/

While I do not agree with nor share the violence expressed here toward the monster who commited this horrific crime, I understand that people need to vent their darkest emotions regarding such. It's a healthy outlet in trying to come to terms with the monstrosities of society.

This should not be the place to pass judgment on the releasing of those emotions.
I feel, if people want to discuss why they feel retaliation against the man is unjust and perpetuates more violence, then they should take it to another thread.
To debate the pros and cons of punishing, torturing or killing the man in THIS thread, seems a greater injustice toward the girl, her family and Oneironaut. Why focus on his "rights" HERE.

Let people vent their rage so they can work through it and be more supportive of the ones who truly warrant our attention.

Sorry if this advice is offensive or unwelcome. It's not my intention to step on anyone's toes or speak out of turn. But having been a victim of sexual abuse myself (though not nearly to extent of this poor child), it ??? upsets? angers? annoys? me when the crime becomes more about the criminal than the victim.

*slinks off into the shadows*

Originally Posted by Zhaylin

*slinks off into the shadows*

Zhaylin, no need to slink off into the shadows.. I agree with your comments and I couldn't have said them better myself.

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I agree too. In fact, my post above alludes to this. The best way forward for the victim of such a crime, I have found, is to realise that the perpetrator always suffers more in the long run because they have to live with who they are and what they have done. Life has a funny way of taking care of things that way.

This is the stuff of nightmares. O, my heart goes out to that child and her family and to you as well for having to shoulder this burden. There are no words to express the outrage I feel over something like this, though I am relieved to hear that they caught the monster so quickly.

Personally, I'm of a mind that these kinds of people should just be removed from this world. Knowing that someone like him is gone and unable to cause harm to anyone else sets me more at ease than knowing that he lives another day to cause grief to his victims. I won't fill up this thread with my opinion, though. All in all, Cold Blooded said all I wanted to say.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I can't even imagine. My friend is already saying how her daughter refuses to go back in her room. She might actually end up switching rooms with her and giving her the master bedroom, because she just refuses to set foot back in there.

I wouldn't be surprised if they move to a different home, away from whatever could bring the memory back. I probably would. I'll be praying for a swift recovery.

Originally Posted by Zhaylin

upsets? angers? annoys? me when the crime becomes more about the criminal than the victim.

Oneironaut expressed rage and the will for vengeance, and he is the thread starter. What we are saying is partly for him.

Also, we are speaking on behalf of the victim and out of care for the victim when we say it. Without the victim, the scum bag is nobody to us because we don't know anything else about him. I am pretty sure the victim agrees with us and would appreciate our comments if she read them. Most likely, she will always have that attitude about him.

Plus, there is nothing to debate about the victim. After a bunch of and "terrible" and "I am so sorry!" and so forth, there is nothing to discuss in terms of the victim alone, but what should be done with the creator of the problem is full of issues to discuss.

This is very unfortunate.

I don't really have any sympathy for the rapist, hopefully the legal system will not let him off easily.

As for the victim, I've known people to go through traumatic events like this and still be able to move on with their life without being haunted by it forever. As long as she has supportive people by her side she should be able to leave this event in the past.