LDD-T3 (Lucid Dream Device - T3)

[LDDT3]

What The LDD-T3 Is The LDD-T3 is essentially made up of three elements: a modified wristwatch, a headset, and a wristband that interfaces between the two. There is an optional fourth element that can be used interchangeably with the headset: ear-buds. The modified wristwatch can be any wristwatch that meets a specific set of criteria. Two terminals are installed on the watch which allows connection to the wristband. (See forum-image-a) forum-image-a.JPG The headset emits a series of soft blinking lights when activated by the timer function of the wristwatch. If ear-buds are used instead of the headset, a series of audible beeps will be heard. (See forum-image-b) forum-image-b.JPG The wristband connects to the terminals of the modified wristwatch and controls the brightness level of the headset (or volume level of ear-buds). (See forum-image-c) forum-image-c.JPG Background Information Preliminary information might be required to understand how the LDD-T3 will enable you to become aware when you are dreaming. There are four stages to every sleep cycle; the first three stages are called non-REM and the last stage is called REM. The REM stage is where most dreaming occurs. After that final stage, you awaken briefly, and then fall back asleep to begin the next cycle, repeating this process throughout the entire night. The average sleep cycle lasts between 90 and 110 minutes. Although you probably don't remember awakening several times every night, it happens nonetheless. The basic principle for inducing a lucid dream is to use one (or more) of your five senses to incorporate an outside stimulus into a dream already in progress. If you have ever dozed off while watching television or listening to the radio, you may have experienced this. Your senses continue to process information being received at the same time that a dream is occurring. By predetermining a signal that will be received during a dream, you can trigger a reminder to check whether or not you are in fact dreaming. So how do you check if you’re dreaming? Very simply, you attempt to read something. The part of your brain which processes the task of reading behaves much differently when your body is in REM sleep. The simplest way to check if you are dreaming is to look at your digital watch and try to read the time. When you look at your wrist during a dream and expect to see a watch, you should find one there. Try it. On the face of the watch, you should see incoherent symbols that you cannot read. Sometimes you might be able to read it at first glance, but look away and check again – it should be different the second time. At that moment you will realize you are dreaming and can then decide to continue with the storyline of the dream with full knowledge that it is all just a dream, or you are free to embark on your own journey of exploration in a world that is every bit as real as your senses can process, yet still just a dream. How The LDD-T3 Works The chronometer is used to time your individual sleep cycles and determine how long it typically takes for you to hit the REM stage. Start the stopwatch when you lay down to sleep, and press the lap button every time you find yourself awake during the night. You might think that you never awaken during the night – rest assured, everyone awakens briefly after each cycle, and then falls back asleep. You also might think that you won’t remember to press the lap button – just think about it while you fall asleep and you should remember at least a few times each night. Don’t worry about analyzing the measurements until the morning; just press the lap button whenever you think about it during the night. A REM assessment worksheet is included for you to record these times. (See forum-attachment 1) forum-attachment-1.jpg Some measurements will be shorter (5 or 10 minutes) and some will be longer (2 to 4 hours). The shorter ones due to interruptions when you were still in the early non-REM stages, while the longer ones due to missed cycles in which you fell back asleep before pressing the lap button. Record only the measurements that are around 90 and 110 minutes (could vary a little, so look for trends). You might successfully record only a few per night, so continue this process for several days until you have discovered a recurring pattern in your sleep cycles (the more days you can do this, the better). Once you have determined the typical amount of time it takes for you to awaken from REM, set the first interval timer 10 minutes prior to that time. For example, if most of your cycles have been ending between 70 and 80 minutes, use the earlier time and set the first interval timer to 1 hour. Set the remaining 8 intervals each for 5 minutes. You are now ready to induce a lucid dream. When you are prepared for sleep, attach the wristband terminals to the wristwatch terminals, plug-in the headset to the wristband, and put on the wristwatch and the wristband. (See image-d) Start the interval timers, put on the headset, and lay down to sleep. forum-image-d.JPG The first interval timer should go off approximately 10 minutes prior to the end of a sleep cycle, while you are still in the middle of a dream. The headset will produce 3 sets of 3 soft blinks from LED lights inside the eyepieces (blink-blink-blink, blink-blink-blink, blink-blink-blink). Those blinks will be incorporated into the dream somehow; you will see them and continue to dream. At that point, you should be reminded to check if you are dreaming. The remaining 8 timers will continue to go off at 5 minute intervals. These will be secondary alerts in case you missed the first one or have gone back to accepting the dream as reality. The final timer will produce a long lasting series of blinks that will most likely awaken you, but could be adjusted to allow you to continue sleeping. The blinks might be too bright, causing you to awaken immediately, or they might be too dim, not being noticed at all. You may need to adjust the brightness of the headset which is controlled by the wristband and attempt again during another sleep cycle. You may also need to adjust the time of the first interval timer if you find that you’re not dreaming when it goes off. Make adjustments at 5 minute intervals until you find a time that works with your sleep cycles – be sure to make several attempts at each setting to allow for variations in sleep cycles. What Makes The LDD-T3 Different The LDD-T3 is unique because it incorporates itself into your daily lifestyle as a normal watch. It reinforces the technique of checking your watch to determine if you are dreaming by thinking about this every time you check it. You might even trigger a lucid dream just by wearing a watch that really notifies you when you are dreaming, kind of like a placebo effect. And while other products are left in a bed-side drawer only to be pulled out a few moments before going to sleep, this device goes with you all the time. Your dreams are often constructed of experiences throughout your entire day. Wearing this watch all day long will be a constant reminder that you never really know if you are dreaming until you check your watch. What Is Your Role In This I'm interested to discover how many people might be interested in this type of technology. There is currently only one prototype and it is my personal device. If I begin production of the LDD-T3, I need to know what type of reaction there will be in this market area. Please consider this and let me know your thoughts.

[Rozollo]

How would it be better than say the REM Dreamer? Also, considering how cheap the materials would be, would you charge a lot? Release the schematics for a fee?

[Jorge]

I would definitely try it.

[diert]

i would try it fo sure

[wackygoose]

How would it be better than say the REM Dreamer? Also, considering how cheap the materials would be, would you charge a lot? Release the schematics for a fee? just what I was going to ask

[Clyde Machine]

Interesting, using all kinds of devices to get lucid. Let me know if this works, anyone who tries it.

[Kolten]

I don't think I would want to try it. It seems interesting, but I just like doing what I usually do to get lucid.

[Clyde Machine]

I'm a fan of the simplest methods of lucid dreaming myself, but there's nothing wrong in my book with getting adventurous.

[fuci-lurr]

Although I like the challenge of LD'ing the natural way, I'm a sucker for the tech stuff. The only problem is that other devices like this are really expensive and not a lot of people want to be paying for something they can do for free with a bit of practice. How much do you think you would charge for one of these bad boys?

[LDDT3]

How would it be better than say the REM Dreamer? You might compare the success rates of the REM Dreamer and the LDD-T3 to identify which might be better for you, but that would certainly be subjective. I would say the one that is better is the one that works most often for you. Any other reason would simply be personal preference. The device works really well for me. I cannot place a percentage on my personal success until further testing is complete, but I do expect the final results to be high. Although even a "high" success rate is subjective. I would consider one lucid dream per night to be a 100% success rate. Some might consider that low since at least 3 sleep cycles were missed and place the success rate nearer to 25%. Would I charge a lot? There are many factors that would account for the overall price of the LDD-T3. Essentially, the only devices that I am "making" are the wristband and headset. While the parts may seem relatively inexpensive, there is a large time factor involved in production. The watch alone drives up the cost very quickly. Unofficially, I would probably have to put a price tag around $200. The first several would have to be made to order (pre-pay) as well and I would prefer for the first few to go to those who consider themselves "experienced" and whom can validate it's effectiveness. Would I release the schematics for a fee? Schematics would not be released. Anyone could reverse engineer the LDD-T3 in about 5 minutes, but it would still not be worth the time for me to draft up explicit instructions when they will inevitably become available online for free anyway. I obviously can't stop anyone else from doing so themselves, but the schematics & templates I use will not be released.

[Clyde Machine]

I (or anyone with practice) can chain together lucid dreams with DEILD for as long as I care to lay in bed in the morning. Didn't take $200 or extra apparatus to do it neither. Thanks anyway.

[Robot_Butler]

There is a reason lucid induction devices don't sell very well. You just don't need them. No matter how well they work, they don't really address any sort of need. If you can do something for free, why spend $200?

[Clyde Machine]

There is a reason lucid induction devices don't sell very well. You just don't need them. No matter how well they work, they don't really address any sort of need. If you can do something for free, why spend $200? It's the classic Windows vs. Linux debate, except the trend is toward the free option!

[darklight101]

the problem with the devices is all devices are create for a generic brainwaves, and everyone has unique brainwaves, i read from people who only say " i will have a lucid dream" and they have a lucid dream and other that take time months or years, the kind of tech to develop lucid dream need adapt, learn and create routines.

[Malac Reborn]

My thoughts? $200 is overpricing it for this technology. 1) There are similar purposed and cheaper products. 2) Free lding can occur with practice. 3) Dream incorporation techniques are simply unreliable. Thus, your product will most likely fail. I do like the REM predictability function idea, however. It even deals with our own personal REM occurrences - excellent. Using it to wake those up for a WILD, instead of dream incorporation, could be a most useful tool. EV has developed something similar (Singularity device), but it's many more enriched with other functions. Perhaps you might team up with him?

[cedward1]

It's a pretty good idea. But as for marketing I would probably sell the schematics rather than the device itself. Similar things can be put together by many tech-minded people, and others as you can see would rather put the effort into achieving lucid dreams the natural way than pay $200 for a device to help. But if an easy to follow set of instructions were sold for about $25, I think lots of people would check it out, just for the fun of building and playing with the device.