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      Nootropic Alpha Brain + New Mood + Calea Zachatechichi + MP Bullet Proof

      Hello,
      I'm currently taking a night time recovery supplement called MP Bullet Proof right now for recovery purposes (awesome btw). It includes ingredients such as GABA, Melatonin, and L-dopa. I have been doing some research on onnit.com's Alpha Brain and New Mood. They include ingredients such as Alpha GPC, L-dopa, and 5-htp. I've heard taking L-dopa and 5-htp could lead to bad side effects. I've also ordered some Calea Zachatechichi capsules from shaman garden to help with lucid dreaming. Would taking these 4 things be safe? I would plan on taking the alpha brain and new mood everyday while taking bullet proof 5 times a week. I will just be taking the calea zachatechichi once in awhile. I am also hoping to increase my chances of a lucid dream with all of this. Any feedback would be appreciated.

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      I forgot to add they also contain ingredients such as vitamin b-6, L-tyrosine, and L-tryptophan.

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      I don't have any experience with these supplements but I will ask someone on your behalf.

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      Thank you, that would be very helpful

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      Ohhhh please be careful with l-dopa, it's a very potent anti parkinsons drug that has very nasty and IRREVERSIBLE side effects, which they don't tell you are irreversible.

      Mixing 5-HTP can also be very dangerous especially with SSRI or other anti depressants or chemicals that release serotonin, even things like Tramadol for pain or Maxalon for nausea, you don't want to give yourself serotonin syndrome, which can be fatal.

      There is a comprehensive drug-food-supplement interaction checker here, BUT!!!!!!!! it has a DISCLAIMER!!!!!!! and nothing will ever beat speaking with your Dr!!!!!!!! please be careful and this does NOT replace ANY SERIOUS MEDICAL ADVICE

      Drug Interactions Checker | Drugs.com promise me you'll speak with your Dr.

      I'm not being all BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....... just concerned OK

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      Thanks for being concerned, I always do extensive research on every supplement or drug before I plan on taking it. The company that sells Alpha Brain and New Mood seems to be very reliable and guarantees safety in all of their products. There is a video of Joe Rogan on the website also telling about how effective Alpha Brain was and how it made him have crazy dreams as well. They said you should be fine taking their products as long as you don't take anything else that has a lot of choline in it. I've also emailed them personally asking more about safety and they said taking their products with daily supplements such as multi's, protein, amino acids, and fish oil is fine too. If your taking specially prescribed medication I would definitely ask a doctor first but otherwise I'm pretty sure their products are safe with most stuff. I'm also not a doctor though so don't rely on what I say and always do your own research and talk to a doctor before you take anything! I've also decided not to take MP bullet proof because it has a lot of the same ingredients as Alpha brain and New Mood and isn't worth taking the risk. I wanted to post links to make it easier and show the ingredients and dosages each of these have in them but I guess I can't only being a member for 3 days. If you want to see whats in Alpha Brain and New Mood go to onnit.com and all the info should be there. For MP bullet proof go to bodybuilding.com and search for it. I'm pretty sure most people know what calea does. I'm excited to take these 2 products considering they have lots of high profile ingredients that I've heard help with lucid dreaming and recall!

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      Also if you plan on taking Alpha Brain or New Mood they said you should cycle them by taking them only 5 days a week and every 3 months take a 1-2 week break. They said its just always safe to cycle these types of products just to make sure you don't become dependent on them. They are also both pretty expensive but if you have the money its worth trying since they offer a 100% money back guarantee on the first bottle. Hopefully this helps people looking for something to help with lucid dreaming.

      Cheers!

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      Cool dreamchasher, good luck and my you find the right combo for you. I thought you had prescription strength L-Dopa which is really nasty stuff for the poor people who actually have to take it with Parkinson's Disease.
      Happy Dreaming....
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      I heard mixed about Calea-Zachatechichi. I heard some negative stuff about it and positive. Its legal to buy in the USA except for Louisanna. Louisanna it is illegal to buy or sell or consume. It seems to be a natural plant. Personally I'd stay away from anything you have to smoke (esp for dream enhancers). It can lead to bad habits and an addiction to want to smoke other "stuff" to acheive a dream high. I seen someone demostrate himself smoking it before bed to enhance a lucid dream, and I swear it looked like a cheaper legal form of pot. Ive seen Calea in mostly smoke form. Make sure its pure in tablet form...and from a natural known USA-FDA approved company if you buy the tablets. Ive been seeing some "homegrown" websites trying to sell it in smoke or liqued form, even on Amazon, or companies Ive never heard of. Stay away from those. People have a tendecy to not know what they're doing and mix other junk with their products (or do it on purpose) which can be deadly to the brain. Happens all the time here in Los Angeles when people try and get "experimental" with stuff they shouldn't be touching. So buy from a known company...stay away from that smoking stuff of it...and go from there.

      Stuff like Galanatime, and Ginko-biloba, and Bacopin are known and studied and you can get them (cheap) from USA-FDA approved companys like Natures Way or Natrol. Ginko and Bacopin also been recommonded by known doctors (Ginko and Bacopin by Dr. Oz on his TV show for memory enhancing).

      I would also only use one or two suppliments at once. Like Galantime and Choline. Or Ginko-Biloba and CHoline or just Bacopin. You dont want to start taking twenty different herbs to acheive LD or vivid dreams and also have your brain trying to take in everything at once. Stay natural. Mixing herbs can also be dangerious if you don't know what herbs your dealing with, which trees/plants they come from, and if one herb will work with the other. Its like mushrooms (no not the drug) the fruit fungus. I can go to Albertsons Grocery Store and buy mushrooms for my salad because they're selling the handpicked and safe ones that you can get at any restaurant with your food. However I can't just go into any field or grassland in town and pick any mushroom I see growing and start chewing it down as some mushrooms can be deadly poisonous and cause liver failing (research Amanita phalloides).
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      Thanks weather and no I don't that explains you being so concerned. Ace55, The company I got my capsules from was Shaman Gardens and from what I've heard they are a very reliable and safe place to get stuff from. I've recently tried the Calea Zachatechichi by taking 2 of the 250mg capsules right before bed without any other lucid dreaming aids. Soon after ingesting them I started to feel more drowsy and I noticed images were popping up in my head. After about 20 minutes or so I went to bed and as soon as I closed my eyes I could feel myself drifting into that "dream state" but could never transfer over to it. I had a very hard time sleeping that night and woke up every couple hours or so. I've heard calea can do that to some people but it could've been me just being a little to anxious trying it out that night. So I ended up waking up exhausted with no recalls of any dreams but a little afternoon nap took care of that . I still think it might work if I try it again but I've heard it works best with the WBTB method. Thanks for the info though on those supplements, I will definitely look into them and safety is always one of my main concerns.

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      FYI, Joe Rogan is a funny dude. He's also an experienced drug user and has an awesome radio show on Sirius-XM. I could listen to him all day long. However, I'm not sure he's the guy I'm going to take safety advice from.
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      I agree with you on that. I won't necessarily listen to any claims he has to make regarding safety but its cool to know he's had some good experiences taking the product.

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