nicotine patch and dreams

**Qwer** · 03-01-2013 01:31 AM

apparantly wearing a nicotine patch to bed is ment to give very long, vivid crazy dreams. has anyone done this? if so what is it like? worth trying?

**melanieb** · 03-01-2013 03:33 AM

I'm going to advise that this is not a good or DV-approved method for anything beyond attempting to quit smoking. Nicotine is a stimulant and an addictive substance.

Feel free to share your dream experiences while attempting to quit smoking but this is not an approved method for attempting to induce lucid dreams.

**Qwer** · 03-01-2013 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by melanieb

I'm going to advise that this is not a good or DV-approved method for anything beyond attempting to quit smoking. Nicotine is a stimulant and an addictive substance.

Feel free to share your dream experiences while attempting to quit smoking but this is not an approved method for attempting to induce lucid dreams.

how someone goes about lucid dreaming is completely up to them. i dont think anyone needs to aprove techniques.

**melanieb** · 03-01-2013 04:19 PM

Because DreamViews has members who are under the legal age for nicotine use and because nicotine is an addictive substance and because this forum is completely viewable to people of ALL AGES this can never be an endorsed or approved method for inducing a lucid dream.

How someone goes about it is indeed entirely up to them. I and the rest of staff encourage all members to visit the Induction Techniques section of the forum for quality methods that do not involve addictive or age-restricted substances.

Continue to feel free to post experiences here that are relevant to the topic of this thread..

**Rhyan420** · 03-02-2013 11:28 AM

I have actually been able to finally experiment with these a little bit recently. It is interesting, because it does definitely increase your sleep activity A LOT but... It can be very annoying as well, it makes it actually hard for me to fall asleep/stay asleep, which is weird in itself considering I always felt I needed a cig before bed and all to help with falling asleep. But that at the least shows that it's kind of the same concept as B12, it makes your mind more active as well. The other thing is, I find myself in this crazy state almost every night, in between being conscious and unconscious, tossing and turning in my bed doing the same thing, avoiding something, but oddly, something different every time, but with every toss and turn I am consciously dodging/avoiding, like one night it was Chinese, then another was Ships, and another was bombs, I just find it nuckin futs that I would be doing the same thing, with something different lol. Anyway, back to how they will actually affect your dreams, it should be obvious by now, that they the patches do definitely kind of help, if you can actually sleep. I have had a couple lucids off of these, and I feel I can confidently say it can definitely increase your vividness at least as long as you can actually sleep decently with them. But one more slight warning, it will make your sleeping quite a bit more intense, therefore your mind will be intense, therefore your thinking will be more intense and there for your dreaming can be more intense, and that may not be good if you don't like the increased chance of having an intense dream. But to ease your mind, I haven't had a bad experience yet, and I am a lil more prone to it maybe? Overall, my opinion, if you want to get an almost surefire way to more vivid dreams, this may be something to try out, It has prolly been the most effective for me, and I have experimented with tons of various shit.

**oliverclay** · 03-04-2013 11:15 AM

This thing is new to me, i never tried it.

**Phased** · 03-04-2013 11:35 AM

I personally wouldn't try this even if I was legally old enough to do so, I don't think it would be a good idea. You may get addicted and become reliant on it ect. A no, no from me.

**Marbig** · 03-25-2013 08:03 AM

Personally I tryed this, as my smoker friends told me about there vivid dreaming experience when trying to quit smoking, and its actually a rather well documented phenomenon. Although not being a smoker, my body rejected the nicotine and in the middle of the night I woke up completely disorientated, the room around me felt as if it was rolling, and I felt like crap and I was forced to take it off, after doing so a couple hours layter I was fine, however no abnormal dreaming experience

**Darkmatters** · 03-25-2013 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Marbig

in the middle of the night I woke up completely disorientated

Did you put the patch on when you first went to bed? Not a good idea at all. No sense laying there absorbing toxic chemicals for hours before you get into the later REM periods - the way to use a Nicotene patch, as advised by Thomas Yuschak in Advanced Lucid Dreaming, is to use the lowest dosage avaiable (7mg) and put it on at the end of your WBTB, just when you're about to go back to sleep (after 4-5 hrs of sleep). Then make sure to remove it as soon as you wake up and clear it from your system with some pirecetam if you have any.

You do not want to use it frequently or regularly at all - beyond the obvious reasons, it desensitizes your nicotinic receptors, meaning you won't be able to lucid dream anymore, with or without supplements. So if you want to use nicotine, do it smart and do it only rarely. And yes, before Mel pops in here, DV does not endorse or approve of nicotine use.