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      Oh - hell!
      Wow - thank you! This is really, really bad!

      Just for those too lazy to click and take a look - here the picture, which they took for the below artefact - with the holes on the corners, where the black table can be seen through:



      Here the photoshopped prototype - exact same position and - black holes on a wooden table!



      And they wouldn´t even shoot an I-Phone video with the prototype on it, because they simply do not have one.
      And deleted their facebook-accounts, claiming they never had them - trying to stay anonymous.
      I mean - anonymous??
      And sacking in $ 300.000??

      Is that normal that people on kickstarter are anonymous??
      Wow!
      Last edited by StephL; 11-12-2013 at 05:14 PM. Reason: had to make the pic reappear..
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      Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox View Post
      SCAM ALERT

      I am Manoko, you can find my other comments on this page if you want the original discussions.

      This is the comment which exposed the photoshoped photos: LUCI
      -Update-: GXP removed the original photo, thus making it harder for me to prove anything...
      The previous photo, which exposed the black holes problem, can be found here: fe698ac341d49c3d52c5d8c1fdb01ce3large - HostingPics.net - Hébergement d'images gratuit

      This is the comment that expose Caluka as a fraud, as well as LUCI: LUCI

      It is worth mentioning that after those two posts, GXP threatened me to file a harassment complaint, instead of replying to me honestly.

      -Update-: the iWait app is nowhere to be found as expected, and [email protected] doesn't work, try it out yourself.
      In other words, the Caluka Group doesn't have a website, nor a way to contact them.
      They also changed the photo on the homepage since my posts, as many backers here can attest.

      New add, thanks to "Luci Is A Scam", Wayne Kendall said that he doesn't have a facebook account and that Martine his wife is camera shy, well, lies again: LUCI
      New add, they accuse me of threatening and harassment from Facebook, those are the two only messages I sent to his wife (because he deleted its facebook account): messagesfb - HostingPics.net - Hébergement d'images gratuit
      Then they accused me of photoshoping that image, but hey, I made a video to shut them up: The messages on facebook - YouTube

      If you wish to alert Kickstarter about this, please go to the homepage of Project LUCI, scroll down to the bottom and there should be a button to report them.
      I am glad you took my comment and posted it here.

      Thanks, for those who don't quite understand, he is not Manoko obviously, I am. It's just that I put a comment which is a compilation of all the proofs we are GXP are trying to scam everyone.
      I am the one who saw the photoshop of the pictures about the amplifier.

      I am quite pleased this has reached this forum as well.
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      I am the ex-backer you're refering to, that exposed LUCI as a fraud as well as GXP.

      I am the same Manoko as the one in the comment section of the project.
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      Here's the latest version of my post with all the proof you need:

      "This is a compilation message made by Manoko which contain all the proof there are showing that this campaign is fake, you can find his other comments on this page, as well as the sources if you want to.

      Please, copy and paste this post as you please. I made the direct URLs of my comments a lot shorter to avoid the website breaking them by shortening them.

      This is the comment which exposed the photoshoped photos: LUCI
      -Update-: GXP removed the original photo, thus making it harder for me to prove anything...
      The previous photo, which exposed the black holes problem, can be found here: fe698ac341d49c3d52c5d8c1fdb01ce3large - HostingPics.net - Hébergement d'images gratuit

      This is the comment that expose Caluka as a fraud, as well as LUCI: LUCI

      It is worth mentioning that after those two posts, GXP threatened me to file a harassment complaint, instead of replying to me honestly.

      -Update-: the iWait app is nowhere to be found as expected, and [email protected] doesn't work, try it out yourself.
      In other words, the Caluka Group doesn't have a website, nor a way to contact them.
      They also changed the photo on the homepage since my posts, as many backers here can attest.

      New add, thanks to "Luci Is A Scam", Wayne Kendall said that he doesn't have a facebook account and that Martine his wife is camera shy, well, lies again: LUCI
      New add, they accuse me of threatening and harassment from Facebook, those are the two only messages I sent to his wife (because he deleted its facebook account): messagesfb - HostingPics.net - Hébergement d'images gratuit
      Then they accused me of photoshoping that image, but hey, I made a video to shut them up: The messages on facebook - YouTube

      If you wish to alert Kickstarter about this, please go to the homepage of Project LUCI, scroll down to the bottom and there should be a button to report them.
      In case you want to back out, please take care to really reduce your pledged amount and not just choose to get the lower "thank you" reward! Otherwise you would donate at your 150 CAD just for getting a "thank you"!
      Make sure to change your pledged amount before the last 24 hours, because I believe that you can't change it in the last day of the campaign (but I'm not sure about that, someone please confirm).

      As soon as this comment get buried, please someone copy and paste it so new comers can see for themselves."
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      Welcome to DreamViews Manoko!

      For the full scoop and most entertaining version, read up from here until I say "Hack the planet" - click on "Show newer comments 5 times": comment-5015066.
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      Quote Originally Posted by IAmCoder View Post
      Welcome to DreamViews Manoko!

      For the full scoop and most entertaining version, read up from here until I say "Hack the planet" - click on "Show newer comments 5 times": comment-5015066.
      Yes, about that Michael.
      I really wanted to apologize for doubting what you said. In fact, every investigation I made after (that you can see in my long post here and in the comment section) made me feel worse and worse about how you were treated when you came to warn us.

      So, my friend, my sincerest apologies, I hope I redeemed myself since then by proving the fraud they are and launching the discussion that is still heated as we speak.

      Again, sorry, really sorry.
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      No worries bro. Thanks for fighting the good fight.
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      Thanks mate.

      Anyway, it's in the news: Kickstarter Project Canceled Amid Fraud Accusations - Digits - WSJ

      Read it, it's pretty accurate.
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      Now - this all resulted in a new member who is passionate about LD - congratulation Coder and welcome Manoko from another newbie!
      So often you can find a positive note in little and even bigger disasters..
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      We won??? I didn't expect that!!
      Good job guys!

      So, what's this "Aurora" thing I keep hearing about? An alternative to LUCI?
      Current projects:
      -Acquire the Aurora
      -Test galatamine, huperzine and choline
      -Find smartwatch app for RC reminders at certain intervals
      -Ressurect my dream log here, and become more active

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      Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox View Post
      We won??? I didn't expect that!!
      Good job guys!

      So, what's this "Aurora" thing I keep hearing about? An alternative to LUCI?
      Yes, basically a far better device than LUCI ever wanted to be.

      You can check it on iWinks
      Their Kickstarter campaign will start soon.

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      Only found it about this today, Great job Manoko! This kind of situation is a real let down for the onironauts, especially when nova dreamer 2 seems more like a mirage...

      I did email them (lucidity institute) some months ago and they said that "information regarding shipping and price will be avaiable on the next newsletter". Meaning we only have to wait another 2-3 years -.-
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zoth View Post
      I did email them (lucidity institute) some months ago and they said that "information regarding shipping and price will be avaiable on the next newsletter". Meaning we only have to wait another 2-3 years -.-
      Funny thing (that I may have mentioned before): I used to tease LaBerge's assistant by saying, "Real soon," to most of her requests. Why? Because that was her -- and LaBerge's -- standard answer to every question about when the new NovaDreamer is coming out. And the real funny thing is that I was making this joke in 2002!

      The "real soon" talk has gotten more serious in the last year or so; the machine itself has been finished for years; only manufacturing and cosmetic details remain. So it might not hurt to ask the folks at TLI again if the NovaDreamer 2 is coming anytime soon...
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      Oh - you´ve been - or are - actually working with LaBerge, Sageous?
      How exciting!!



      Edit: And goes to show, that building something for real is not done hollla hoppla out of the wrist!

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      ^^ Yeah, about a decade ago I moderated his website's forum (now defunct -- not my fault!), and I've been to a few of his dreamcamps. Nothing big.

      And yes, he has been remarkably fussy about the final production of the NovaDreamer2 -- it does hint that there are quite a few details that need attending in products like this. That, and it's really hard to mass produce something that doesn't have a mass market while keeping prices low and quality high.
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