Thread: Listng EFFECTIVE DreamEnhancers.

I see Calea Z as worthy of being on the list. From my own personal experience, I have no measurable enhancements to dream recall or lucidity when I take it at bedtime. However, I have very good results combining it with wake back to bed. WBTB works well for me - but my chances of becoming lucid w/ the aformentioned combo is certainly higher.

I suspect the main activity of calea subsides pretty quick. The technique I mention insures max effect from calea lining up with some good dream periods.

Give it a try. I have a 10X exract in pill form.

Mugwort has made my dreams slightly more vivid and a bit scary

whats the flower that kills you?

Originally Posted by OAR Raider

whats the flower that kills you?

Lulz. He's not going to tell you. If he posted it here, it would be public for everyone to see and a lot of stupid people would look it up and figure out how to get a hold of the drug without even knowing how to properly handle it. I myself am up for a greater high, but I do not think I am responsible enough or ready to try something as dangerous as whatever he's talking about (and by the way he describes it, it sounds pretty damn dangerous). I'll just stick with marijuana for now.

And I haven't done many experiments with dream enhancers. I take B6 every now and then and it definitely helps a lot. I have some B12, but I've only used it a few times with little results. I'm unsure about melatonin, but from what I've heard, it just makes you sleep easier and does not enhance your dreams. People have talked about V8 juice, chocolate, and cheese helping dream recall/vividness, but I'm unsure about those too. Chocolate had the best effect out of the three for me, but I wouldn't count that as proof of it being a dream enhancer.

I think chocolate only works because it has caffine and lets you sleep a little lighter so your recall can improve.

Some more:

Amanita Muscaria
Peppermint
Salvia
Calea Z.
Syrian Rue (small doses)
Yoga

Yes, Salvia - indeed. I thought I was the only person who held this opinion. Good to know there are others. Salvia is the best way to practice lucidity in a dream like state. Your connection to your visionary and sub-conscious world will increase exponentially.

Hey realize that this thread is 2 years dead but I was looking up african dreamroot info and saw your comment on salvia. How do you find that salvia helps you? I just get turned into goo or get split in half. Insane drug. Its strange I feel really good after doing it, so I do it once in awhile, but I always say "O fuck" just before I do. Are you able to control yourself when you smoke salvia?

Ooh I've heard alot of Salvia being a perfect Oneirogen.

I reckon DMT is a good oneirogen too. Perhaps especially when combined with a MAOI like some Caapi.

I wonder if drinking a MAOI Tea made from Banisteriopsis Caapi, followed by smoking and/or quidding (sublingual) DMT-infused Salvia leafs would be the perfect Oneirogenic mix it seems.

Thanks for performing CPR on this Topic.

I was thinking: It is a Theory that Nocturnal dreams are caused by the brain's release of DMT. Allthough it is merely a theory it is not so unlikely to believe that DMT, the most intense of all psychedelics, is what causes these hallucinatory, out of body-ish, visionairy experiences we call dreams.

I guess a fine way to TEST this theory a bit further is MAOI's. MAOI's must be handled with care and not combined with most other drugs and some foods. MAOI's are substances that temporarily stop the enzymatic destruction of DMT in the human body. It is what makes DMT not only orally active(ayahuasca), but also what makes a DMT trip far more intense and longer lasting (4 hours +)

So if it indeed is true that nocturnal dreams are caused by an endogenous DMT release then taking a MAOI, like Caapi or Harmala Tea right before bedtime should make dreams ALOT more intense and longer lasting.

I think I should soon try this...

^^ I've heard that it is in ones best interest not to mix salvia with any other drug, I don't know from personal experience though. I should be trying it soon, and maybe it will help me to finally become lucid.

-Alpha GPC (a form of choline) taken 1.5 hours before it peaks in your system. Great for recall and vividness. Lasts for many hours.

I have used galantamine, GPC, 5HTP, Yohimbe extract, apple juice, kava kava extract, Vitamin B liquid sublingual complex, cheese, EmergenC packets,St. John's Wort, GABA, Zinc, & Mucuna Pruriens.

I personally haven't found any substances/vitaminds out there that benefit my dream recollection. I've tried a few and the most i could say would be either st. john's wort, sublingual b vitamins, or gingko biloba, simply because it increases blood flow to the brain.

it sounds counter intuitive but green tea can help simply because it keeps the mind somewhat sharp in order to aid in focusing energy to one's closed eye visuals.

I would have to 2nd the ginko Biloba & add ginseng to the list as well. I take both every night

Originally Posted by hostetjm

Hey realize that this thread is 2 years dead but I was looking up african dreamroot info and saw your comment on salvia. How do you find that salvia helps you? I just get turned into goo or get split in half. Insane drug. Its strange I feel really good after doing it, so I do it once in awhile, but I always say "O fuck" just before I do. Are you able to control yourself when you smoke salvia?

A lot of researchers claim that salvia is a very effective therapeutic herb. It's next to impossible to keep your composure while directly under the effect unless you're smoking dried leaf rather than extract. All I know is that after I smoke salvia I'm very relaxed and mellow for hours afterward.


Anyway I wanted to not that mugwort has high potential as a dream aid. I've been smoking a bowl of it each night before bed as well as basking in it's aroma, and today I had my first WILD in quite a while during a nap. My dreams have also been slightly more vivid.

I've seen B-vitamin complex mentioned a couple of times, but for me it does nothing. But what is the dose, people use this in? I've taken three pills (each pill about 100% RDI) but little effect. Should I take more? Or would that bring risks with them?
Yesterday I also ordered some African Dream Root and Calea Z. Hoping to get some results with that. A friend got a lot of dreams on Calea Z., but they screwed up with his sleep, so he didn't have that much energy during the day, so not the best enhancer for during work weeks, more for holidays.

Originally Posted by hostetjm

Hey realize that this thread is 2 years dead but I was looking up african dreamroot info and saw your comment on salvia. How do you find that salvia helps you? I just get turned into goo or get split in half. Insane drug. Its strange I feel really good after doing it, so I do it once in awhile, but I always say "O fuck" just before I do. Are you able to control yourself when you smoke salvia?

I can usually control myself. Not really my physical body, but I can somewhat control my mind. However, I absolutely can not change my surrounding. My salvia trips are scary as hell, but I always come back to smoke it for some reason.

But I would like to smoke some at a low extract and then sleep, and see what the results are.

Originally Posted by Wikihan

I've seen B-vitamin complex mentioned a couple of times, but for me it does nothing. But what is the dose, people use this in? I've taken three pills (each pill about 100% RDI) but little effect. Should I take more? Or would that bring risks with them?
Yesterday I also ordered some African Dream Root and Calea Z. Hoping to get some results with that. A friend got a lot of dreams on Calea Z., but they screwed up with his sleep, so he didn't have that much energy during the day, so not the best enhancer for during work weeks, more for holidays.

Try a liquid Vitamin B complex. ABout half of the DV are grotesquely larger than necessary. The product label says you can take up to 4cc or 1 cc up to four times daily. I have used 2cc daily not on a daily basis but several times a week and I have only noticed benefit.

Sometimes when I am dreaming I experience the same thing. In other dreams I can change anything. I would suggest that the next time you experience one where you cant that, if you have the fortune or recognizing someone from waking life, call them the next day and see if your dream had any relavence to thier life. I would also suggest to ask questions in a double blind manner then relay the story and try again this time w/o trying to conceal your motives.

You might be surprised at what you find

I've did some further research and found that people use about 50 mg B6, so for me, that would be about 10 pills. So a lot more than what I've been using. Tonight I'll try 6 pills, tomorrow maybe 10, but I'll have the dream root as well tomorrow, so maybe I'll try that.

why is everyone nuts over B6? Maybe it helps with clarity in dreams I dunno.

Vitamin B5/Pantothenic Acid & B12 produce acetylcholine which greatly increase lucidity according to Tomas Yuschak Author of Advanced Lucid Dreaming: The power of supplements.

....okay I think I am talking to myself. I'll quit. Ciao

Originally Posted by Hijo de la Luna

why is everyone nuts over B6? Maybe it helps with clarity in dreams I dunno.

Vitamin B5/Pantothenic Acid & B12 produce acetylcholine which greatly increase lucidity according to Tomas Yuschak Author of Advanced Lucid Dreaming: The power of supplements.

....okay I think I am talking to myself. I'll quit. Ciao

The complex I'm taking contains B2, B3, B5, B6, B8, B11 and B12. So I have all the benefits
But still, 6 pills, no recall whatsoever Though I wasn't really focussing on dreaming while falling asleep, but normally I recall 2/3 dreams, tonight nothing. Let's try again tomorrow and then with more intention.