Thread: REM DReamer works! Sort Of...

Originally Posted by LARRYDEE

The lights flashing on my RD are as follows; 4, 8, 15, 20 flashes. Then there is a pause for about 4 minutes and it starts up again.

These lights are waking me up from my dreams. I figure there is too big of a jump in light flashing. Is there a way to change it? Eg. 4, 6, 8, 11, 17, 20 flashes.

Sorry for the late answer, but just came back into my LD practice (which also means playing with my old LD toys and reading the forums).
What you are describing is the TWC mode (Two Ways Communication).
This is the only mode that sent an increasing (in length and strength) set of clues so that it finishes by being visible in the dream (to turn you lucid).
Once you understand you are in a dream and your mask is making flashes you have the possibility to stop it with a code you make with your eyes in the dream.
But it's like you are awoken before noticing the flashes...

have you tried the non TWC modes?

Good evening to you all. I'm new to this forum and I'd like to share my experience with the Rem Dreamer. I've bought it about 3 weeks ago and I'm trying to find my own settings, not so easy to me. The leds they always woke me up instead of telling me I was dreaming, even the lowest brightness setting didn't work. Frustrated but not going to give up, I finally managed to try different led type (you know there are so many types, from the most bright to the less one). Led's light can act different with different color(s), so I removed both sides leds and soldered a socket for each one (even put a socket for the IR led that wasn't working when I received the mask but I replaced it myself instead of sending back the mask for such a little issue). Now every night I experiment a different color but it seems green and yellow are both suitable for me and they don't wake me up as the original red-too-bright ones did. I think I'll have to try different colors and settings but I'm satisfied with this mod, now it's so easy and fast to swap the leds (no soldering - desoldering needed) and try different colors and brightness..... I'll post again when I'll find the right balancement.....

Interesting!
so, what's up since?

But isnt the RemDreamer dangerous???

It is producing an infrared light / beam into your eye all night. Wouldnt this cause harm / cancer etc

What studies have been done on its safety?

The LED flashing lights are not a problem - the infrared system could be?

Any thoughts about this guys?
Thanks

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

But isnt the RemDreamer dangerous???

It is producing an infrared light / beam into your eye all night. Wouldnt this cause harm / cancer etc

What studies have been done on its safety?

The LED flashing lights are not a problem - the infrared system could be?

Any thoughts about this guys?
Thanks

Your radiators emits infrared, like your own body and warm objects.
I would be more worried about all the electro-magnetic waves around you emitted by all the cell phones, wifi, bluetooth and so on that are everywhere 24/7 than the infra red signal of a led.
Infrared leds are just leds that emit light under the visible spectrum.

What about the signals that your Aurora sends to your phone while wearing it?
is it dangerous?
what studies have been done on the safety of the Aurora?
are you sure the battery will not just explode (like some cell phone batteries have) while you wear it on your forehead?

the risk is everywhere.
yes it's safer to wear nothing on your head while sleeping.

(excuse me in advance if my post sounds offensive, It's not, but I'm restricted in vocabulary and nuances since English is not my native language)

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

But isnt the RemDreamer dangerous???

It is producing an infrared light / beam into your eye all night. Wouldnt this cause harm / cancer etc

What studies have been done on its safety?

The LED flashing lights are not a problem - the infrared system could be?

Any thoughts about this guys?
Thanks

Cancer from the REM Dreamer, really? In this thread you claimed to have one:

http://www.dreamviews.com/lucid-aids...amer-safe.html

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

Hi, I have a RemDreamer which, as you know, detects rem by a small infrared device zapping at the eye all night. Is this safe. I have been concerened as I hear about 'electrical magnetic frequencys' and I am unsure if an infra red device is safe for the eye. Can anyone shed some light on this please

thanks
Ezzo

Feels like you have a vested interest in spreading misinformation about IR...

The REMdreamer gave me autism.

All the more so as you (essolucid) already have had your answer in 2016 :

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

Just got these responses back from Pawell, the distributor of the RemDreamer

Can the remdreamer infrared detector or LEDS cause long term eye damage? Im concerned that having an infrared detector / sensor so close to the eye all night could cause optical damage. Im not too technical but I have been told of Electro magnetic frequencies / radiation / infrared dangers etc and this has all made me anxious as to whether i should use my RemDreamerPro mask or not

Some part of infrared light can go through eyelids but it is 100% safe. There are three types of infrared and only third type-far infrared produces heat.
We use active infrared very close to red light and it doesn’t produce heat. Red light is safe and infrared is even more safe than red light because eye doesn’t see infrared. Pupil doesn’t react with infrared. So that’s why it is 100% safe

Originally Posted by Kaan

All the more so as you (essolucid) already have had your answer in 2016 :

Hi, its not the led lights that concern me, its the part of remdreamer that continuously monitors the movement of the eyeball. It looks like a little round opaque sphere which is the part that looks for eyeball movement to detect rem. I probably am overreacting but its because I want to use it but when i asked this question of electronic forums they all said it was a bad idea to wear it

It seems impossible to get a definitive answer from anybody of its safety - i dont want to mess with the eye

Thanks guys

Few nights ago, for once my attempt to have a DEILD thanks to the Rem Dreamer worked.
I have been briefly awoken by 4 bips and flashs during 2 seconds (2 per sec) , stayed still, waited for something to see and a door started to appear, I waited few seconds more for the field of view gets larger and started my lucid dream.
It seems that a good night on the two first 1/3 of the night and a very short WBTB increased my chances to be successful, or maybe my training, night after night, slowly starts to work.
Why a good night of sleep and a very short WBTB may be a plus for this technique: because more chances to have good REM sleep in the last 1/3 of the night, and the WBTB brings a bit more awareness, so that it gets easier to stay focus while trying to re-enter in a dream.

this successful attempt was with the old RD. I also have a RD pro 2.0 but the screen was starting to loose pixels, and it was pretty impossible to read, so I tried to remove it and put it again but I just managed to damage the screen.
I'm awaiting for the RemDreamer Pro ver 2.1 , an upgraded version of my other RD pro 2.0, the 2.1 version fixes the scree issues.
It will allow me to use something more advanced than bips to wake me up, since I can record an audio message, and it will be played through the RD card or through a speaker.
I am thinking of using a volume ramp to make the sound more progressive and wake me up with less stress.
I am also thinking of a message that will also be a reality test.
Why not using something like the venryx technique : a list of numbers that will be all odd or all even, but the message will not be as random as the venryx's app.
I could record several messages in advance with a different list of numbers and change it every couple of days.

Anyway, I can't wait for receiving the new RD pro.

I think you are right Ezzolucid, the DEILD coupled with REM detection based micro awakenings is a very promising technique.

It worked again, this time I was able to chain 5 LD, each time the RemDreamer was awaking me I just staid still and another LD began.
The RD pro is on its way to my home, but the old RD is still useful for DEILD.

Just received my REM Dreamer Pro today and tried it for the first time

On medium intensity preset and 6/9 REM sensitivity I got only 1 generated cue. So I think I need to turn the sensitivity up to 8/9 or 9/9 since the manual says aim for 10-20 cues per night.

The headset does take a little bit to get used to on your head but its nothing bad like some of the members made it sound like on here. And the manual is really not difficult to use. I can see why it would be for an old person with less tech saavy.

My biggest complaint with it is that the circuit board components are all exposed (look for pics of it online) and this normally wouldnt be a problem but you have to take it in and out of the mask at least once every time you want to use it (to turn it on and to turn it off again when you're done). The LED and capacitor or speaker or whatever tend to snag on the cloth even if I'm careful with it - kind of concerning since its not exactly inexpensive.


So to sum up, after one night, I as expected did not have a lucid but the issues people have about the manual complexity, or the uncomfortableness, and waking up and realizing they've taken it off, seem more to be a YOU problem then a device problem. I will keep this thread updated - my plan is to increase the REM sensitivity and stick with the medum cue preset for now.

One question - the manual says the REM sensitivity setting is more sensitive if its higher (7,8,9).. But people in this thread are saying set it lower to be more sensitive?

I bumped the sensitivity up to 7/9 and had 7 cues generated. I can remember at least 2 where I was in a dream and getting flashing red lights. ON one of those occasions I remembered to do the Two-way communication to turn it off and it worked fine. However my dreamspace was all black since the lights had washed it out and I couldn't get it back so I woke up