lucid dreaming vs psychedelic trips

**PercyLucid** · 12-28-2014 06:48 PM

I am a natural lucid dreamer... had lucid dreams my whole life. I am an experienced oneironaut as well as an experienced psychonaut (shrooms and truffles)

Here, a couple trips:

Spoiler for 5.5 grams cubensis trip - solo:

Spoiler for solo 4g cubensis:

This will be a different report, instead of using a chronologic occurrence of events, I will just share the most amazing stuff that happened and that I can recall. Even though is very hard to put into words, I will write my thoughts, but I got from the trip. I tripped on 4g of Cubensis, strong potency, with my friend F. The shrooms came from F%u2019s harvest.

Hallucinations/stuff that occurred in addition of mind expansion%u2026
I could see during most of the peak of the trip the entire world collapsing. The walls were melting, bent; it felt like if the room turned into a triangle. The noise from a far TV that was in other room was disrupted, sounding metallic, very distorted and without volume at some points. My own body did not feel it existed. I could not feel it. My thoughts and consciousness was the only thing that it felt real. Time was massively distorted, heavy time dilation occurred. Gazing without focusing the eyes lead to sacred geometry, I could literally see through solid objects, I could see the very energy forming other objects, different shapes of flashes of light.

Questioning Source/God. What is the Purpose of Source? What lies beyond source?
Something indeed lies behind Source. There is a greater light, a much higher awakened being behind source that our bodies literally cannot access. During my trip, I attempted to seek Source for answers. I started to float and to get closer to Source. I went past our planet, our solar system, our galaxy, went pass our Universe, pass our Spirit Guides and even past a void of nothingness. I was energy, I was consciousness, I did not even existed anymore, I could not feel my body at all, I could not even remember I was tripping, I knew I was tripping, I knew my purpose, but nothing mattered anymore, I was in the here and now%u2026
I reached a very high state of awareness and I was surrounded by the Light. I was connected to Source and Source wanted to receive me. I received love, bliss, joy, happiness, all these positive feelings we seek so desperately. Are these feelings even real? I questioned instead of accepting it. We are based on acceptance; we accept whatever crap they show on TV, we accept whatever junk we see online, videogames, food we eat, literally everything. What if these so called feelings of joy, bliss, etc are there because we just accept it? I decided not to accepted, I decided to keep going forward, breaking my believe system and my acceptance of Source being the highest step.
I faced Source and questioned its own existence, its own purpose and what was sitting behind I t, as there is infinite wherever you look into. I demanded information about the very purpose of the Universe. If we are just a spec of a bigger existence yet that existence is a mere spec for something even great to an infinite amount of times, what is the purpose of all of that? I questioned Source without allowing it to distract me. I receive no response so I decided to keep going forward, to enter the Light, to find its core, its meaning.
As soon as I got into the light, I felt a huge jolt around my entire body. My ears buzzed very loud and my whole body was stunned. Despite my eyes were closed, I saw a flash of light, brighter than you can imagine. I recalled that this happens usually once in all my trips, so I refocused again and tried to enter Source%u2026 Once again, the same zap, but even stronger%u2026 I never felt it twice on a trip before, so I was surprised. I tried a third time, I was zapped once again, but this time, I was able to see something behind. There was in even brighter light, very intense and there was a much higher existence behind. There was a bigger consciousness that Source felt like a fragment off%u2026 Or maybe it was a deeper state of Source%u2026 who knows? What if this was just another mental defense, to distract us from something much greater sitting out there.
Every single time I tried to access this information, I felt zapped and pushed away. It was done with love, it did not provide fear, but I was pushed away, not allowed to tap into this information. Now I ask, why? Beings of Light do not hide the truth, why there very Source, as we believe, the highest being of light, Is hiding its very own truth from those who want to know? How about the Law of the Free Will in the Universe, why some information it is prevented from us? This is something that I shall keep seeking and discover.

What is the true meaning of being Spiritually Awakened?
Many of us might have a greater awareness of a higher existence and yet, we know that religion was made by men. We acknowledge we have Spirit Guides, we all come from God-Source and that we are all energy. Some of us do not believe on the so called Bible%u2026 book of life, whatever, as these were written by men. We believe that what is not written by men is where the truth lies.
But%u2026 what is the truth? Isn%u2019t Spirituality another religion? Maybe it is a different type of religion, one where we do not need to go to church, to donate money so %u201CGod%u201D can %u201Cbless%u201D the pastor with a BWM. Religion made by men is just a distraction, a lie and an illusion%u2026 Have you ever questioned the fact that Spirituality is just another illusion? How sure are we really that Spirituality it is not another lie, another distraction, an illusion preventing us to know a greater truth, to have answers to our most profound and deepest questions.
When we %u201Cawaken%u201D spirituality, we believe we know the truth. A Christian believes they know the truth, a Muslin believes they know the truth%u2026 even the atheist believes they know the truth (of not being truth at all) but where is the truth really? We cannot find the truth on man-made information; neither can we find it in higher realms, as always additional questions lie ahead. Is there a truth at all? Isn%u2019t all of this a lie? If so, why do we even exist? What it is the purpose of our existence?
The shrooms were a gift from our ancestors, from higher beings that give us the opportunity to tap into a greater reality. But not even the shrooms are able to answer all our questions. The shrooms allow us to question everything, to realize the illusion we live into, but do not provide answers. What is the purpose then of knowing where the truth lies, if there is any truth at all, and if not, what is the purpose of existence as a whole?
I connected with my Spirit Guides, my most beloved beings that help me in my work as a Psychic Medium, beings who work with me and protect my human vessel. I went into them seeking for advice, but they literally closed my eyes. They told me there is information even unknown to them, and information that it is too big for me to handle. That is a reality and my guides avoid me to know that information in order to protect me, but apparently, denial of information is what the darkness gives, why I am denied information from beings of light?
There is this Law of the Free Will from the Universe, where each individual has its own life and makes its own decisions. If the information is so much, vibrates so high that could destroy us, it might be our own decisions to %u201Ctake the risk%u201D or not to, but if for the mere excuse of protection, we are denied this information, then the Highest Beings of Light are breaking the v very first rule of the Universe. No one seems to be able to give the ultimate truth. Wherever you seek, you just find another lie, or you just find another mental block, or an incomplete answer. Only tapping into what we call or believe what the Highest is, there is a major block, a small peak to see that there is much more behind of what we call Ultimate.
This was literally amazing, and my mind is still going at hundred miles per hour. We know nothing%u2026 everything is infinite yet everything is nothing%u2026

Next time I trip, I will do it with my own grown shrooms, using the spores from the shrooms we used for this trip. Wish me luck growing them%u2026 will inoculate in a couple of days probably!

A couple of profound lucid dreams:

Spoiler for Lucid dream 1:

13.02.2011

The moon wipes me out from a LD induced within a LD induced within a LD induced within a LD from WILD. (WILD)

NON-DREAM DREAM LUCID

I woke up about 2am in the morning to write down some fragments from my previous dream. I was planning to move to my reclining chair to Astral Project, but I decided to WILD instead to some weird favor I was asked.

Vibrations trigged pretty fast and I was tempted to pass on the LD thing and induce Astral Projection, but I wanted to complete the goal, so I decided to not to project.

A few seconds later, I had a false awakening in my room. The dream was fuzzy so I decided to make my dream stable. It was night and it was beautiful. I felt a flight would be nice before doing anything, but I just flew within my room to go back to sleep, in my own room.
After a few seconds of flight, the dream was pretty stable, so I decided to lay down in my bed in order to try to WILD within a lucid dream.
I laid down in my dream bed and focused I wanted to WILD within the dream to enter another dream. I almost woke up, but I moved my eyes and the dream became stable again. I attempted a second time, with success and without waking up.

I had a FA in a different room. I was in a big house and my bed looked also different, it was greenish. I did not have any specific feelings, other than my regular feeling from a lucid. I did not feel like I was in a deeper connection with my self. This was a second level of dream within a dream. The dream was stable, so I attempted a second WILD. Once more, I laid down in my dream-dream bed and felt a shock around my entire dream body.

I had another FA inside a pyramid. I was still lucid and I wondered why the hell I was inside a pyramid. My "bed" was the lid of a sarcophagus from some pharaoh who I had no idea who was. My dream was still stable and I realized I was in the third level. I was asked to do a waking WILD and three WILDS more in the LD, so I had one more to go. I still had the same feeling, control and personality from previous dreams, with perfect waking recall and also recall from what I have been doing since lucid.
I laid down in my dream-dream-dream bed and focused in entering deeper in the dream.

I had another FA in another room. I checked my hands to make sure I did not blew the progress. My index finger was really thin and long, so I succeeded. I was in the fourth level as I was asked to. I was still myself, with my same personality and my same dream body. I did not feel deeper nor connected with myself, I felt like a regular lucid dream.
As I was done with the tasks, I decided to look for Dreamer. I exited my room hoping to find her. Instead I found a guy who was my dad.

My dad was pissed at me for some reason. I knew he was a dream character and I was aware that my psychic powers were greater in a dream. I wanted to have a PSI Ball fight with my dad and cause him a big headache. I was in a big room and he started to ask me a lot of questions. A female DC also started to ask me questions in order to see what was wrong with me that I did not get along with my jerk dad. I did not feel like wasting valuable time in the dream.

I exited my house, along with a couple more dream characters. It was night and suddenly the moon turned red and threw a fireball at us. I decided to follow the dream instead of controlling it. I wanted to see where my subconscious was going to take me. Someone told me that I belonged in a different dream, so the moon was going to try to make that happen.

The moon obliterated all the DC that were with me. I saw the moon turning green. When the moon was green, it would poison me. Also, the moon turned blue, if you made eye contact with it, you would become paralyzed. The moon could turn black and a big whirlwind appeared from it, sucked you into it and brought you to the previous dream.

I explored these odd dreamworld while the moon was randomly changing within these colors. Sometimes it turned on its regular color, which made it become harmless.

I suddenly got to a place where I could see a lot of DC. They were for a Nintendo event for some sort. I wondered what my subconscious had for me. I jumped the line and a guy asked me for my member card. I though if I opened my wallet, I would pull one, so I did. He also asked me for my ID. I tried to search for my ID while the moon was aiming at me and turned red. I did not want the moon to hit me, so I ran from there. The moon when was red it looked like this:

However, the red colors where very intense, very bright and then, a cloud of fire approached at me. I ran and hided somewhere. All the DCs did not seem to care. I entered a small kiosk, it was not bigger as a voting booth. I realized it was a Gamestop and I could purchase videogames swiping my card in a machine. I saw a Bowser, a Mario and Yoshi painted next to the keypad. I wondered what games my subconscious made, but I could hear fire from the moon, so i left.

As I was walking, I avoided a fireball in the last second, when I witnesses the moon turning green and throwing me a cloud of green poison. The moon looked like:

I saw the cloud of green poison on me, I jumped to hide in a plant, and I could see how the poison killed the plant. I was fine so I left the place. The moon was white, looking normal. I saw from the far distance the moon changing, but it was not attacking me. I observed how the moon turned black and absorbed someone.

I was flying by a lake. I am positive it was the Michigan Lake. It looked like it, like if I was in Chicago. Suddenly, I saw the reflection of the moon in the lake. It was a blue reflection and I looked to the moon. It is impossible for me to imitate what I saw on Photoshop. It was an extremely beautiful and shinny blue. It was bright as light, but it was blue. It was also semi transparent, but it was so beautiful. I was amazed for such a beautiful moon my mind created. I wanted to enjoy this moon with Dreamer, so I tried to summon her. While I started thinking about her and staring at such amazing blue moon, I realized I was paralyzed and recalled that eye contact with a blue moon induced paralysis. I tried to regain control of my dream when suddenly, the moon switched to its black, absorption mode, color:

A huge whirlwind came from the moon and hited me in a spit second. I traveled at a high speed towards the moon. And lost imaginary.

I had a FA in the pyramid, the previous place I was before WILDing to a deeper dream. However, now there were people with me. I entered a chamber and I had my Tarot Deck with me. A DC wanted to see it. She also had a Tarot deck, so I asked to see hers. I tried to channel and ask the Tarot a question, however, I do not recall the question. I cannot remember the first card, but the second one was called, "Bent Spoon and Fork." The image of the card was a lot of bent spoons and forks, bent with psychokinesis. I tried to channel and figure the meaning of the card without realizing that I was looking at the card too much.

I had a FA in a weird room, a room where I did a WILD on previous dreams. I exited the room and the quality of the dream was decreasing dramatically. I went to the restroom and tried to make the dream stable.

I had another FA in my room. I was back in the first level. My dream quality was terrible and I doubted I would have enough time to meet Dreamer. I felt I was not going to recover the dream at all. I tried to focus on Astral Projection within my lucid dream, but I woke up.

Spoiler for lucid dream 2:

26.01.2011

Possibly unlocking my Akashic Records and partial astral separation (DILD)

NON-DREAM DREAM LUCID

As usual, I have a lot of dreams to record and little time to copy them to this journal, so here goes the big one.

I came back to the Earth from a trip at the moon. For some reason I had to go back to the moon, and I was actually very excited. I was working in a store (probably my store with twisted reality) I was told by a randomly generated Dream Character that I needed to get ready to go back to the moon. I was going to spend a few days up there. I had to go to a grocery store to get the supplies I needed.

I was informed that I was going to find computers and a place to sleep at the moon. I felt really good and I bought some cans of coke, these cans were yellow and smaller than usual. The manager wanted me to visit the moon with a second employee. We were going to do some sort of inventory for Serrano hams. I entered in a small room and I almost immediately spawned at the moon.

I though that I did not call my wife to notify her I was going to be a few days out.

I felt really good while at the moon. All I could see was complete silence. I could hear the silence, my own hearbeat and my own thoughts. I was completely alone with my own consciousness and I felt great. Around me, all I could see was nothingness, emptiness and tranquility. In front of me, I saw a big closet with a lot stuff inside. The closet was metalic and the doors had a small locker. I pulled a notebook from somewhere and started to write down stuff from the closet. While I was working on the count, I started to allow my mind to wander and treat me with random thoughts. I felt very excited as I was able to travel to the moon regularly without belonging to the NASA. Suddenly, I found a weird piece of ham and while I looked at it, I lost vision.

After a few seconds, I found myself in an old house. The house was in a small village and it had three stores. When I entered the house, some dream character greeted and hugged me. A female DC on her 40s escorted me to an odd elevator. I suddenly teleported to a ancient place and felt a presence. I turned lucid and I started to investigate this place. It was a mix of Egyptian and Mayan cultures showing in the building. My dream was very stable so I decided to investigate. I felt I was under a good level of lucidity.

My dream guide showed up. She was smiling at me and welcomed me to the place. My dream guide's energy was different from a regular DC, she felt more like if she was my Spirit Guide, but I assumed she was my dream guide, as I was not Astral Projecting in that moment. My dream guide told me, "We need to unlock the knowledge in your inner self, however, there is a small puzzle." I could see a big empty room with a few giant iron statues. Two statues had scythes instead of hands, other one had swords and the two had shields. My dream guide told me that using my own dreaming abilities, I needed to create like a circle with those soldiers statues. Hitting the soldiers, some would cross their arms and some would expand their arms. I needed to get them all holding their hands. I looked at my Dream Guide confused and asked for some help. She pointed at thee of these statues and told me to cast a lighting bolt. I did not recall doing a lighting bolt in my dreams at all, but I was sure I could make it. I successfully casted it and all the statues were touching each other. I small squared hatch opened on the ceiling and a small bubble appeared. My dream guide told me it would be good to touch it to recover energy. I did and my dream quality increased it.

Another hatch opened in the middle of the room. It was squared as well and a stoned ancient pedestal grew out of the ground. There was an extremely old school book in the middle.

My dream guide told me I just needed to channel my energy to the book to open it. I was surprised about what was going on, but I wanted to stay, lucidly and see how it was going to end. I opened my hands the same way I do in waking for psychokinesis exercises. The book opened and I approached at it. My Dream Guide smiled and I could read in a similar color and font (I am so happy to find such a close font to what I dreamed):

I was very surprised, I was certain I was dreaming and not projecting. I though it would have been cool to reach my real Akashic Records. My Dream Guide told me, "Do not try to read this, you will wake up, you are dreaming, remember?" I found it funny, I already knew that. My Dream Guide kept saying, "You just unlocked your Akashic Records. Now they are available for you. In order to come here, you will need to Astral Project. Once you successfully leave your body, visit this location. I will be here as your Spirit Guide and I will help you start to explore your Akashic Records. I was happy as I recalled that some people unlocks their Akashic Records first through lucid dreaming, then visiting them with Astral Projection. My dream started to fade, so I told my Dream Guide I needed to fly a little bit to recover the dream. I walked to other room without ceiling. All the walls were also made of stone. I flew and I saw a very blue and beautiful sky. I had a small flight and when I wanted to go back, I was very high and I could see a big forest, a small house and a village. When I landed, I was back in the village.

I wanted to go back to the place where I found the elevator. Funny enough, the exact same dream characters were there. Two of them were eating some food in a rounded dinning table. The lady who helped me before, now was dusting and she wore a white apron. She smiled and said, "You are back!" I told her I needed to get back to that elevator to get to the ancient place. Now the elevator looked like wooden and had some buttons. I had to climb five stars, so I did and enter the elevator. It was a lot smaller as well and it had no door. It started to make noises and broke down. The lady told me that it was recharging from previous use. I told her that I was going to try to Astral Project from the dream and visit my Akashic Records. I fell on my back and I said, "I now will be out of body." I focused on my room and my Astral Body. I recalled how awesome it feels to Astral Project. I hit the ground, broke the wooden floor and start falling in a dark void. I was falling, but I was not afraid. I knew I did not projected, but I still knew I was in the dream. Suddenly, a female blue and green sort of ghost spawned. She was laughing and told me she was going to roll a dice to make stuff more interesting. While I was falling, I heard a music. A white six faced dice appeared. The dice had black dots instead of numbers. I could see the dice rolling and rolled a two. "Twice the speed!", said the ghost laughing. The music seeded up and the fall as well. She was going to roll again, and I focused that the roll could help me to project, however, I appeared at the city again.

I wanted to try to Astral Project again. I wanted to find a place with higher vibrations of energy within the own dream. I saw a church, but it was looked. I did not feel to breaking in, even being a dream. I saw a small school with a pool. I could hear the kids. I arrived and the pool was very big, with blue water. The water felt really cold in my feet, but I focused on it being a dream feeling so I shut the sense of cold down. I wanted to fall in my back on the pool.

I was back in bed. I could feel my body with vibrations. I started to raise my vibrations in order to leave my body, however, I could feel my cat next to me and my Astral sight was gone. I started to move my Astral arms. I felt greater vibrations on my arms and then, I sat. I felt my back on the bed and also, my Astral back not touching the bed. I still had no Astral sight and I tried to get off bed and float out. I was half separated and when I tried to separate my legs, I lost consciousness in the process.

I had a false awakening in my bed. My wife woke up abruptly and told me, "If you want Chistorra for breakfast, I should get started cooking it!". I woke up for real.

And a non lucid dream, that breaks all the laws of the dream world, the astral world and the waking word... This one was during sleep with no psychedelics, but left me without words

Spoiler for The Life of Her:

12.04.2011

The life of Her (Non-lucid)

NON-DREAM DREAM LUCID

This was an extremely long dream. I can only recall fragments from the first part of the dream. Several days, nights, months and years happened in this dream. I think I was a spirit guide from a lady since she was born until she was old. The whole dream covered the life of her. She had no name, so I call her, "Her" It felt odd to be a dream, I was not lucid and I was not Astral Traveling either.

- Her was born. Female, blonde, special child. She could see me.
- Years passed, she had a hard childhood. She only could trust me.

I was in a hotel with Her. Her was about 10.. The hotel did not have much decor, it was mainly a wooden closet, a bed with a green cover and two brown lamps. There was an odd lamp by the closet that made noises and revealed images from the future when you walked by, but I was uncomfortable, so I left. I started to talk with Her. Music sounded in the dream. She was sad because she had no friends. I told her to be assured people loved her. I told her she had indeed friends.

Now I was at a swimming pool. Her was about 18. Her was nervous and excited at the same time. She was going to have a race. She jumped on the second aisle of the right of the pool. Two female ladies tried to screw her, however, a third lady, who was Mexican jumped between then and pushed Her to the corner. Her was happy that she did not have to deal with the other two ladies anymore. A gun was shot and the race started. Her dove and started to swim very fast, she arrived second, someone arrived prior to her and received the gold medal.
Her left the swimming pool to me her only friend, or maybe two friends. I was floating in the middle of the pool, now empty. I could see the spectators seats. The seats were wooden and they had a shape like a pyramid. The sits were so next to each other that I could slide on them and get into the pool. Oddly, I did not splashed.

Now I was in some gardens. Her was about 40. Her found some hidden stuff of a friend. Her told me she was not a fancy city gal but a more rural gal who grow in the woods. She told me she had to act like a city gal to fit in. There was a small wooden house under a couple of trees. There was a sink in the middle of the house, but not faucets, just the sink. The sink looked old and damaged. There was not pipe on the bottom of the sink. I saw some blood under the sink (on the ground)

I was in a big forest, but it had almost no trees. Her was on her 80s. One of her last wishes was to take a picture of me, with her. I told her I did not belong to that world and I doubted the camera could picture me, but I tried. There camera had a two inch radius objective that was tried to a cord. She moved the objective and placed it on my forehead. Her said, "Right where the Third Eye is!" Then, she moved the objective back to the camera. It was dawn and after several tries, only her appeared on the photo. I decided to take some pictures of her and I told her that my energy would be within her photos. Her was happy. She smiled, lied down in the ground and died with a smile on her face. Shortly, I woke up.

Now for your questions:

It is hard to compare both worlds, they are very different altered states. In a lucid dream, you have freedom without repercussion, with psychedelics, especially if you are tripping in a park for example, you are still aware that you have a "real" world around you and you may have repercussions. If you are tripping at night... well... OMG... just tuck yourself under the sheets of your bed and allow your mind to go wild... you go to mind-blowing realms (note: use psychedelics at your own discretion and check with your local law, as these substances probably are illegal and I do not promote their use) Ego is present in lucid dreams, while a high dose of psychedelics kill the ego... I could say a lot about both realms.

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