Thread: Does flying really ever get easier?

Last night's dream: I tell the people I am with that I am dreaming,they ask me how I know. I tell them that I am obviously dreaming because Ican fly. I start to levitate then they say I am only on my tiptoes. I look down and sure enough I am. I say no really and finally get off the ground. The problem I had at first was just flight correction. If I tried to correct to the left I would fly off to the left, same with the right. After a short period I just told myself it was easy and sure enough it was.(which is my advice if you are having difficulties). The problem I had with flight was that a wolfe kept chasing me. It bit my ankle and pulled me down then we had a fight but I was not scared. I ripped his jaw apart but he just came back to life and bit my hand. and I woke up. I decided that instead of trying to kill him I would try to befriend him(because i do not know what he symbolizes). I will try tonight and update you guys on the effectiveness of this approach.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Befriending him would definitely be an interesting experience. I have no idea what he might symbolize, it's probably different for every person.

I've always been able to fly in dreams, but I don't do the superman thing, or flap my arms. I just kind of move through the dream in the air. Basically, my perspective just moves around through the dream when I fly, with my body attached. I control the flying with my thoughts. Like, expect to go up and you will, or expect to turn left and you will. What my body is doing is irrelevant to flight.

Schmaven, that's exactly what i do when i fly. i don't think about my body at all, it's just my consciousness that's moving around, whether it's walking, flying, or moving in general.

and General Jesus, i can't wait to hear how befriending the wolf turns out. if you're successful, try asking it what it symbolizes.

Well I have been interrupted from sleep for various reasons and have not had a lucid dream since. : (
But those are good suggestions guys and I plan to try them out soon.

Originally Posted by blade5x

I don't know why, but for some reason, flying in a LD, is one of the hardest things I have ever attempt, and still cannot do properly.

I haven't had a lucid dream in a while, but I did have a very lengthy one this morning. I must have spent a good 15 minutes trying to fly in it. At first, I was just terrible, as if I had never flown in a dream before. Jump up very high, and drop. After a while, I finally got some confidence, and I was moving around in the air. Though uncontrollably. I was about 100 feet off the ground... I felt this was enough space, but I was wrong. As soon as I got a good amount of speed, I took a sharp noise dive straight into the ground. Though it wasn't painful. This is something I have accustomed myself to, and actually love the feeling of free fall that comes along with it. But yeah... I never really got it down.

Some lucids it just comes easier than others. Some just seem impossible. I question the practicing of flying. Yes practice makes perfect... in a stable physical reality where we can learn cause and effect, or fine tune our muscles for physical activity.

Flying does get easier. The first time i tried it i could only manage hovering a few feet above the ground. But in my most recent LD i was flying above the sea with total confidence. But the most freekish thing happened. As i was flying A herd of King sized whales appeared from the sea i was so struck with horror that i lost the ability to fly. Each whale was like 2 miles long!!!!. Anyway just as i was falling towards the sea a whale erupted below me and i was literally in it's mouth but it was so big that i flew out again before it got the chance to eat me. Every now and again i lost the power to fly and a whale would have a go at me.
The size of that thing was incredible
I thought whales were herbivores??

I'd like to make an update... it definitely is getting easier. I'm finding a slow hover flight up to 100 feet or so pretty easy now. Superman flight is still difficult, though I have not practiced much. If I am up above the clouds, superman speed flight is no problem, it's just at the lower altitudes that's still proving to be difficult.

Other things to try: Floating, gliding, levitating, skydiving.

WHen I have problems flying, I instead levitate and can always take of into flight from a levitated position. Levitating just seems easier.

I always fly everwhere when i LD!! Sometimes i have difficulties getting
off the ground but i just get around that by climbing something and
jumping off into the air, and that gets me going again, or i should say
flying....anyway it always works for me!

Originally Posted by blade5x

I'm just really looking for assurance from someone who can just fly at will very easily anytime anywhere within a lucid a dream.

I'll be your assurance bro. The very first time I had a lucid dream, I took off flying with complete control of steering, speed, reaction time, etc.

I was at work in the dream and I simply put both my fists up above my head and took off through the roof as if it weren't there.

I think a lot of this has to do with my being naive almost to the point of being childlike. What I mean is, I believe that everything is possible everywhere and that just because we see something or believe something, that doesn't necessarily make it true no matter how much evidence is stacked supporting said theory.

For example, since I was a child, I've been trying to levitate objects in real life even though most people would think that is absurd and impossible, i continue to confidently try it.

It's all about going back to the childlike naiveness where not all the "laws of physics" are set in stone and you will believe anything that you hear.

Being naive doesn't necessarily make you ignorant either. Many of the greatest scholars believed anything was possible and some even became scholars because of their beliefs that were perceived as idiotic and naive at the time.

The Wright Brothers? No one thought that a huge piece of metal with wings would be able to fly with people in it, but they accomplished it.

Einstein? Who would ever think such an absurd notion that space and time is a fabric in itself? Before that, time couldn't even really be physically conceived of, it just "was", it was just that thing that existed and allowed things to exist over and over in different states.

So basically, it all comes down to dissolving these rules pounded into your brain that the majority of society accepts without question. It may sound absurd but you can actually believe that we are not truly bound by gravity, even if you never prove it, you just have to believe it for it to be possible in a dream, proof is not a necessity in the dream world.

So be naive my friend.

It's harder for some than for others, but I have achieved it. It was easier for me than for most because I have always had a belief in the supernatural and things beyond my understanding and control that I just have to respect.

But what really gave me the final push into become childishly naive was pot. The things I thought about while under the influence were ridiculous yet creative, and I would accept them no matter how absurd they seemed. I'm not telling you to become a pothead, I'm just saying that occasional marijuana use certainly helped me take the final leap into believing that anything is possible regardless of what society has programmed me to believe.

Trust me my friend, if you combine the naiveness of a child with the knowledge of an adult, you have a person who is truly capable of much more than an adult that has no naiveness or a child who has no knowledge.

Peace,

The Pacifist

My flying stle is the same as Neo's in the matrix. When you flap your arms your still reling on real world "laws" but by traking a more psycic aproach i find it to be a breaze. In real life i can "surge" energy about my body and when i dream my ability to surge increases tenfold. By channeling this energy down through my body and out my feet while willing my self forward i am able to fly with a huge amount of control, alowing me to fly at great speeds and still do and about turn in a splitsecond.

The best bit is warp speed. youv'e never flown untill you've achived warp speeds

Aryaxon, i have to agree with you on flying warp speed. it's like a riding on a roller coaster from hell lol. although i don't "surge" my energy, i just fly without even thinking about it.

Been a while since I've had a LD...
(You know, I've been having them... and forgetting them. Like I'll pull off a WILD, and later that day will just remember that I did - too many things on my mind!!!)

But I had one last night, and flying was just easy. No real effort required, it just worked. Hopefully this continues.