Thread: Managed a Three Hour lucid dream with no practice.

No offense but I find it hard to believe that you had 3 hour long lucid dream. At least personally I will wake up after my REM-period is over if I am lucid. Since you don't remember everything, it might be that you were lucid for a small time and it felt like many hours. Rest of the sleep continued as normal non-lucid sleep and when you woke up you feel like you would've been lucid very long. Your brain can trick you easily to think that you had hours long lucid dreams, I have felt that too

Otherwise, congratulations if that all happened

Sounds highly unlikely.
3 hours of REM without good reason is pretty unheard of.

Yeh, but let's hear what the OP thinks of my reasoning.

I always thought if you blinked in your dream, then u wake up...

Is that always true?? Anyways, REM won't last 3 hours.

I've had non LD dreams, 3 in a row, that felt like they lasted atleast a week but then I wake up and I've only been sleeping for an hour and a half. I'm sure it only felt 3 hours long

Originally Posted by zachj06

I always thought if you blinked in your dream, then u wake up...

Is that always true?? Anyways, REM won't last 3 hours.

No truth in this at all, where on earth did you hear that?

I doubt that too. Besides, if you can't recall it, it didn't happen.

I don't think 3 hours is possible but I could be wrong. In my opinion it was likely time dilation that made it seem much longer since I've had (lucid) dreams that seemed to last days or weeks. I noticed if you really break it down though it generally breaks down to each day or whatever period being its own scene in a sense as if viewing a vivid/real life movie where long periods of time can be broken up into a 2-3 hour period.

The thing is I noticed after a long lucid dream it will suddenly end when my REM is over and there is a long period of blackness every time. If I manage to have 2 LDs in a row (ie. WILD) the blackness will eventually form into a dream and you will see it generate right before your eyes if you can manage. That's why I'm kind of skeptical about the 3 hour one dream thing.

Hmmm thats odd. I'm 100% sure i posted here and i also read another post here that i don't see. Am i insane or has something been moderated? if so please tell me why. I don't want to break any rules or be offensive.





Edit: Okay i found the post i made. Its in the next topic which i havnt actually read. This is what it says any way:

Originally Posted by Adam24

If the previous parts and parts after this it could be possible they are different REM cycles but the same dream story line?

And obviously i can't know this as it was your dream, but to me it sounds like you were only lucid at times? Just beacuse of all these things happening that you didnt want to happen and them making you think you were dreaming which means you must have lost lucidity at some point?

Any way. Well done sounds like a sweet dream dude.

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

No truth in this at all, where on earth did you hear that?

It happens with me and my friend that I asked.

It is not true for all. I have similar thing though, depending on how lightly I sleep. Mostly if I have LDs that are timed on early morning I open my real eyes if I tend to close my dream eyes

but there isn't really a reason to close eyes in dreams since they dream eyes don't dry ^^

Hmmm, that's weird. I never even pay attention to my blinking while in any sort of dream so that isn't even a factor.

I don't see why the mere act of blinking would do anything regardless unless you were new and maybe kept them closed for too long? Sometimes that can alter the dreamscape or stop the dream.

Well I think I can disregard the new factor right away I personally believe it has something to do with lightness of my sleep and maybe that closing your eyes takes away your sense of seeing, which is quite fundamental for us. ( but for me, touch plays even higher role in dream control)

Expectation: If you blink in a dream you will always wake up...
You have a dream: blink and wake up...
Whatever you expect or believe will happen in a dream is usually what will happen.
So I think its only true if you believe its true. But never heard that one before either
"Whether you believe you can or you can't you will always be right" - Henry Ford

As for very long lucid dreams (1 hr +) in my experience I drift in and out of lucidity and the level of consciousness will undulate over time. Naturally it is very rare to encounter periods of REM sleep for this amount of time. I think the upper limit is 1.5hrs MAX possibly pushing to 2hrs as an extreme if you are actively extending it or using supplements. This is mentioned in Steve LaBerge's book. But it would be very difficult to maintain unbroken Lucidity for this length of time...

The two ways I know of extending REM sleep is through either REM rebound which involves taking supplements to repress it early in the night or intentionally loose some sleep one night and expect more REM the next (not really a healthy option). Other things like alcohol repress REM and you can expect more when it leaves your system as a rebound etc etc

OR while you are in a LD employ techniques to prolong it. Rubbing your hands is a good one to immerse yourself in the experience with 3 senses, but the best one which I have used a few times is meditative breathing while looking at one point in the enviornment and 'pouring awarness' into your dream body, be aware of your dream body keeping a level head without excitement, and affirming to yourself that you will be lucid for a long period of time. A minute or so of this may seem like a waste at the time but it will pay dividends in extending the entire LD (I tried it once with my eyes closed and that was the end of lucidity you have to keep yourself immersed in it)... keep reminding yourself your dreaming while lucid.

ive had over 230 LD's, the longest one i've had is about 30 minutes (or atleast it felt like that).. 3 hours long....prove it lol

Well that is absurd as trueful statement because the sleep cycle alone also you need experience in dream control in order to lenghten LDs. At least I will eventually fade and gotta do work to return to lucid state

but most probably he just thinks it was 3 hours. How can he even count it without outside help? He doesn't now when his LD started it could have been just in the end of that 3 h period and feel like 3 hours ^^

Oh, I forgot to mention my method of tracking time. Here is an example;

My long lucid dreams have almost always been a result of a WILD. While I am laying there I make note of the time, say its 5:41am and I know I have slept for around 5hrs 30mins so I decide I'm in a great window of opportunity to attempt a WILD. I do what I do to induce the WILD (won't detail here) and I keep a passive awareness of time, not think about it too much, but just generally be aware of that internal body clock we all use thoughout the day. I feel its been around 30 mins as the process of sleep takes over... (so when I wake up later I add the 30 mins to the 5:41am last look time and estimate it was 6:11am when the WILD occured)

The WILD occurs and after a long period of dreaming I feel the power of concentration starting to wane, I know that I don't have long left in the lucid state, the scene fades to blackness and eventually I wake up. I don't move and spend several minutes recalling the experience in maximum detail, sometimes forward, sometimes backwards, sometimes both. When I feel I have remembered all the important points I roll over and switch the light on and its now 7:26am. So if I estimated the WILD was at 6:11am and I spent some time recalling the dream then I will round down to a roundish figure of ~ 1 hr lucid dream in this case (however not all of it being lucid). To be more accurate I could estimate the amount of time I was highly lucid and the amount of time I wasn't but this would be even more subjective again.

So, thats how I keep track of time, its not perfect and it is subjective but thats my method at the moment. I'd also like to say that 90% of my LD's are 5-15mins before I lose awareness and believe the dream is real or just wake up. 80% of my LD's are DILDS or MILDS at a rough estimate.

Does everyone else more or less use this method to track time? Whats the break down of WILD to DILD, MILD or WBTB etc?

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Natural mayby or it just felt like 3 hours

Originally Posted by 12g951ad

Natural mayby or it just felt like 3 hours

I don't thin you should really use word natural, but your pick of course

Still I doubt no "natural" dreamer can stretch it for 3 hours without losing focus in their first time and first try. I am kind of skeptic it can be done really, but well who knows really.

OP hasn't still replied. Maybe a troll ;P

well mayby not for 3 hours but "naturals" do have longer dreams

mmm.. well maybe. I am "natural" in the sense that I didn't have to hear or read about lucid dreaming when I was already doing it for years. I didn't have any longer dreams back then ( about 5-10 min average) but I became lucid quite easily. But still.. I find 1 hour to be quite average maximum for people as one lucid dream.

My own record is somewhere around 40 minute I believe. I usually have up to 15 min -20 min when they last long.

well my "natural" dream are quite long and i never practised (how do you write that?!?)
of course i know nothing of you

rem is 90 mins, but can be extended, there are tons of threads and posts on this, and it is said in many tutorials im sure.