Originally Posted by Sasuke
sometimes, i feel like people over exadurate a bit on this forum. It's cool to be able to say that this stuff happened, Because aneything can happen in a lucid dream. But iv'e been lucid dreaming for about four years now. And, looking at some of the people posting these amazing things on here, it's hard to believe everything that they said is true. Im not calling them liers, i mean what do i no. Im just Stating my point. it gets to me a little bit sometimes.
I guess my question to you is...
If the general consensus is that lucid dreams are (literally) limited to your own imagination...why haven't you ever taken the initiative to do any of these sorts of things?
Originally Posted by Ed77
If you have been LDing for a while, you know that things are not ENTIRELY controlled in the dream, even lucid ones, and every situation seems to evolve a little "weirdly"
Depends on the dream and the dreamer. I have dreams that "evolve a little weirdly", and I have dreams that are as structured as any story I've ever read or seen. Dream content (much like their structure) depends on an infinite number of factors; including the dreamer's familiarity with narrative and story-telling (as even Dr. Stephen LaBerge noted, in Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming), and factors as seemingly-unrelated as the dreamer's state of mind, throughout the previous day. There are people that don't dream in color. There are people who have never smelled anything in a dream. There are people who can't read in dreams. And, in all cases, there are the opposite.
You should not take your own dreaming experiences as a rule for how other people must dream, because you'll usually be wrong.
Originally Posted by Ed77
...say, you summon a pack of wolfs to fight them, but when you look better, it has transformed into, i dont know, your grandma or something else. And instead of fighting, they start to make you breakfast. Or maybe you summon a medieval castle in the sky, but upon better inspection it turns out to be a weird McDonalds Drive-thru that sells coffins and back street boys' posters. Thats my experience at least. LOL
That's not mine. Every now and then, my brain will lose focus, and things will be just completely disjointed, or illogical. But, 8x out of 10, my dreams are fairly structured, and only shift track periodically.
Originally Posted by Ed77
So every time I hear a dream description that seems to make too much sense, or read like a Hollywood script, I suspect that the truth has been "bent" a little. Dreams, even lucid ones, hardly ever make THAT much sense, and your plans hardly ever come together so perfectly as you expect. That's my 2 cents.
I understand that that's just your opinion, but it's simply not true. It may be, in your case, but it is - in no way - universal.
I would suggest that you actually take more initiative in inducing these kinds of experiences. Even the coolest thing that you mentioned seemed to be by coincidence. (You said you met your deceased grandfather. Did you summon him, or did you just happen to run into him? There is a difference. If you summoned him, why not try to summon a dragon and fight him? Or why not try to walk out into traffic and stop a car with your bare hands? It's your dream. Remember? )
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