How far should tolerance go? Where do we draw the line?

**sloth** · 04-13-2011 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

Are you implying that an equality of one thing is invalidated because of an inequality of another? i.e. that there is not also an individual equality to achieve, besides a social one? Is that the wisdom you wish to impart?

One of the ways that people fall into the trap of errant predication is because they simply cannot follow an idea.

I mesh synergistic functionalities and enable granular schemas while synergizing intuitive channels on an enabled scalable metrics system. If you enhance the proactive action-items the virtual drive deliverables will incentivize real-time achitectures and deliver strategic orchestrate turn-key functions.

What I am stating is that if a masochist treats others the way that he would like to be treated he would be considered to be a sadist. I don't go in any particular direction at that point in my expression, or my thoughts, for I think it is merely something to think about, and has many different interpretations.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-13-2011 02:31 PM

Thank you for asking me to repeat myself, but double posting, deliberately is bad manners.

**sloth** · 04-13-2011 06:12 PM

I have asked you to repeat/explain your posts in the past, but I don't bother anymore. I answered the only part of your post that made sense, which was the question "What are you implying". The rest of your post was just a lot of integrating global informediary transitionary orchestrated interface delivery synergistic vortals with reinverted collaborative cross-platform bullshit.

Luv ya, Phil :p

**Philosopher8659** · 04-13-2011 06:13 PM

I think we are both touched, in quite different ways.

**sloth** · 04-13-2011 06:23 PM

In times of danger the sea cucumber has the ability to split itself in half, releasing a poison deadly to its enemies.

**Sugabombs** · 04-13-2011 06:49 PM

My freedom ends where the truth begins. My freedom ends where yours begin. To distort reality, to rebel against the truth and to make violation of freedom is fully possible. I CAN do these things. I can steal other people's money and I can distort the truth. But it would only hurt and create nothing but war, uncertainty, chaos, and "ugliness" in the world.

(reply to Dannon)

**Philosopher8659** · 04-13-2011 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Sugabombs

My freedom ends where the truth begins. My freedom ends where yours begin. To distort reality, to rebel against the truth and to make violation of freedom is fully possible. I CAN do these things. I can steal other people's money and I can distort the truth. But it would only hurt and create nothing but war, uncertainty, chaos, and "ugliness" in the world.

(reply to Dannon)

Just the converse of "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. Bad girl, bad. bad. got a phone number?

**Sugabombs** · 04-13-2011 07:34 PM

What I said is free for interpretation.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-13-2011 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Sugabombs

What I said is free for interpretation.

Oh, don't misunderstand me, I had no intention of paying you.

**Sugabombs** · 04-13-2011 07:43 PM

Excuse me? xD

**Philosopher8659** · 04-13-2011 07:48 PM

Do you really believe that you can interpret a langauge into the same language?

Or do you have better notions of what relation to self is?

**Sugabombs** · 04-13-2011 07:53 PM

You're not smart spouting random nonsense, I hope you understand that.
The relation to one's self is a psychological issue and not something that should be questioned in todays society as a norm or behavior.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-13-2011 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Sugabombs

You're not smart spouting random nonsense, I hope you understand that.
The relation to one's self is a psychological issue and not something that should be questioned in todays society as a norm or behavior.

My understanding is vastly inferior to yours. I would never consider a social norm as a standard at all. I just cannot stand against a defender of the mass man. Never could. It requires a depth of intelligence I cannot ever hope to attain, just like dew.

**Perlinfalcon** · 04-13-2011 07:57 PM

Suga, meet Phil. It is best not to bait him. You will get no satisfaction from it. You will learn this after you have been here a while.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-13-2011 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Perlinfalcon

Suga, meet Phil. It is best not to bait him. You will get no satisfaction from it. You will learn this after you have been here a while.

It really depends upon the bait. I like choc chip cookies and milk best.

**Sugabombs** · 04-13-2011 08:13 PM

I'm afraid a social norm is a standard in todays society. It's too bad we all can't be as intelligent as you or live in the same imaginary Utopia. I am amused at the superiority you're trying to bring forward into the conversation though. xD Makes you seem very small and uncertain of your own ego and character.

Well Perlin

I've met far too many people like this in my lifetime (and I'm only 17) to just pass this opportunity to at least TRY and understand what the heck is going on inside their head. They fascinate me to say the least. xD

But when it comes to Phil here.. I think we're talking about a regular, classic troll cruising the net.

**iOrbital** · 04-13-2011 08:17 PM

This is a very interesting topic. I am a very tolerable person. I have friends from many different religions and backgrounds and I feel ultimately that it's the individual choice to perform an act like the athiest described in the OP. While I personally am an atheist, I would never do something like that. Just because I don't believe the same things as you, doesn't mean I have the right to hurt you, taunt you, or harass you, just for your beliefs. I think this is what is going on in the middle east as well. Not all muslims are suicide bombers, just like all christians aren't crazy bible thumpers who believe you'll go to hell if you have pre-marital sex. Judging a group of people based on the actions of some crazy individuals isn't a viable option. It's like saying that because I'm American that I'm obese, I love McDonalds, and have more money than I know what to do with. None of those are true, so how can a blanket generalization like that determine the personality of every individual within a group. It's the individual who makes the decision to do something bad or good in this world, not the influence of the group that he/she affiliates with.

**sloth** · 04-13-2011 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sugabombs

I'm afraid a social norm is a standard in todays society. It's too bad we all can't be as intelligent as you or live in the same imaginary Utopia. I am amused at the superiority you're trying to bring forward into the conversation though. xD Makes you seem very small and uncertain of your own ego and character.

Well Perlin

I've met far too many people like this in my lifetime (and I'm only 17) to just pass this opportunity to at least TRY and understand what the heck is going on inside their head. They fascinate me to say the least. xD

But when it comes to Phil here.. I think we're talking about a regular, classic troll cruising the net.

I don't believe he is a troll.
And I do think he is intelligent.
I have picked on him a lot for his choice of words, though. At first I tried to understand what he typed. Then I explained to him that complicated phrasing does not equal sounding smrt. Now I just respond to what I can understand, and what I can't I ignore. Sometimes I still pick on him, because he makes a good punching bag.
Of all the nonsense I have heard him talk, I have not heard him say very many negative things, and this counts for something in my eyes, so I have come to respect him for who he is.

I think this is a good example of what this thread is all about.

**Perlinfalcon** · 04-13-2011 09:46 PM

I don't think he is a troll, either. I just get protective of newcomers who come on here and get bewildered or insulted by him. But probably I shouldn't stick my nose in. I find his posts entertaining in a way, especially when the people getting into it with him know what they are in for. I just get a little steamed when I think newbies are getting the wrong impression of the forum.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-13-2011 09:48 PM

Sloth, hasn't anyone told you about pissing against the wind?

I am really thankful for Sugar's response. When the state gave me my IQ test, they put my problem in terms I could not understand, however, Sugar has brought the meaning down to my level of understanding for which I am hopelessly grateful.

I am so lucky to finally find someone on this site with the intellectual capacity to help me with my philosophy project. So, Sugar, lets concentrate on one example from the two primitive branches of logic, geometry and common grammar. Give me some tips, on the Delian Quest and Language and Experience. I think we could work great together. I see the sun rising now!

Sloth, can I borrow your raincoat?

Oh, I almost forgot. Sugar, will you marry me? I am sure a girl like you can finally make a man out of me. I sooo need it.

This is how far tolerance ought to go.

**sloth** · 04-14-2011 12:54 AM

**Philosopher8659** · 04-14-2011 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by sloth

I know, nobody seems to know how to use a gas stove anymore.

**Sugabombs** · 04-14-2011 03:15 PM

He speaks in riddles so I'm not sure whether I am insulted or not haha. Hostility isn't a great thing though. I just got confused when I got jumped xD on my first day to boot.

Anyway major OT. Sorry about that.

**Philosopher8659** · 04-14-2011 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Sugabombs

He speaks in riddles so I'm not sure whether I am insulted or not haha. Hostility isn't a great thing though. I just got confused when I got jumped xD on my first day to boot.

Anyway major OT. Sorry about that.

You still have not told me if you will marry me or not.