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I disagree. I think peace isn't peace if it requires a compromise of rich cultural and linguistic variation. The standard shouldn't be that we not fight because we are no longer different. The standard should be to not fight EVEN THOUGH we are different. Plus, you can't bring about a single language or culture in a peaceful way... let alone a single race. |
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Last edited by IndieAnthias; 10-25-2011 at 10:54 AM.
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Rich cultural and linguistic variations are what perpetuates mankind's intolerance towards instincts. The same cultural conditioning that invented religion, social status and a false sense of entitlement to compensate for its breakdown in communication; e.g those linguistic variations you're so fond of. |
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I'd rather die fighting cultural homogeneity (which I happily would do) than live in it. You're free to make an opinionated prediction that 'resistance is futile' but I don't think its supported enough to be reliable. Heterogeneity and peace are not mutually exclusive. |
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Last edited by IndieAnthias; 10-28-2011 at 11:17 AM.
There's fundamentally different things going on in different cultures. You can't blanket-condemn culture itself (which you are, whether you realize it or not. Culture in its fundamental form is variation.) Some cultures are fucked, some are just fine. Trust me human culture survived for possibly as long as 60,000 years with no problems. This involved plenty of hetero religious and linguistic interface. Social status evolved way before humans did. |
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Last edited by IndieAnthias; 10-28-2011 at 12:34 PM.
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Inevitable or not, its something to fight against. If one were to be spontaneously teleported to the middle of the Pacific ocean, it would matter how far one swam towards land before drowning. This I believe. |
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Last edited by IndieAnthias; 10-30-2011 at 12:22 PM.
I dont think thats really a good justification for the Genocide of all people of earth, (not the modern meaningof genocide which is mass murder but the original meaning, destruction of a people). To acheive this one raced world, you're going to have to find a way of getting rid of all those who want to maintain their race, which is several billion people, plus their decendants. Whats going to happen when me and my decendants disagree with your plan? Either kill them (making the idea of doing this for peace redundant) or the one race goal will have failed. |
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In all probability, they will be the only peoples that still inhabit this planet: the .01%. How powerful they are is irrelevant, as the evolution of their acceptance peaked with ego e.g in isms we trust. |
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All Im saying is that for as long as there are people opposed to the one race notion (and there are currently billions, and those in favour of it have some of the lowest birthrates in the world) It will be unachieveable, peacefully anyway. |
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When every individual obtains self-peace? |
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I think everyone would have to realize the interconnectedness of all life. We all depend on one another to live. We are all part of a greater system of life. We believe ourselves separate and act as if no one else matters. We cannot see each others suffering. We horde selfishly. We are self destructive and destructive to those around us. We are tools of destruction more than tools of creation. We are taught to be monsters. All we are has been taught to us in some way. We are taught that life is a competition. Survival of the fittest. We only care for ourselves. We cannot work together for the greater good of all. We have tryed before, but it is always corrupted by selfishness. |
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Our truest life is when we are in dreams awake
These peoples will no longer exist, though. This future isn't just a fantacy in my mind, it's æons of collective will; it's the apex of self awareness. You've only to search your mind for a few moments to realize it's the only logical conclusion our species can come to if it wants to evolve. |
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Actually, that view of one language-one culture of yours is entirely out of touch with nature |
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There seems to be no logical reason at all to assume that these peoples will no longer exist. |
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Because diversity as we know it has done a bang up job so far, right? |
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I'm still not seeing the relationship between diversity and lack of peace. I see a relationship between ignorance and lack of peace. And ignorance tends to lend on the side that everything needs to be "like me" or else. This becomes the foundation of genocide, all in the name of creating a utopia. |
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End forced taxation. |
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Change "like me" into "like us". If the collective mind worked in harmony, it wouldn't act out against those who wanted to separate. They would go do whatever it is they do, and us would continue to build. It's not genocide, because we aren't killing anyone off, they've had done it to themselves. |
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You outnumber us right now, you won't then. As more people become truly aware of their environment; become aware of what their purpose is, they will understand then accept the fact that their is a need out there greater than that of an individual's want. |
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I'm sorry greenhavoc, I usually can follow most arguments for what they're worth.. but you're a rare case in which I think you're utterly and completely wrong. You keep making statements with no support, claiming them to be self-evident when they're not. There is no over-arching goal to our or anything else's evolution. There is no intent, no progress, no destiny, no apex. These are all classic misconceptions of evolution. |
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Its not that I don't understand, its that I don't agree. If I didn't understand, then I clearly would have a reason to keep responding. I see that you are putting forth a description (rather than advocating), so we should be able to talk about this with relatively level heads. I just don't think you are making much of a case, beyond saying your prediction is 'just so'. You have said that you can't elaborate on why you think your vision is 'just so' because it's self-evident. But I have my own view of humanity's 'destiny', that has undergone some x amount of scrutiny, and I'm seeing something entirely different. What have you seen that led you to this position? |
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Last edited by IndieAnthias; 11-01-2011 at 08:17 AM.
You're right, I've got nothing else to add. |
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