Thread: does anyone else think this?

i wasnt entirely sure wether to put this here or not but anyway...

im not really a religious person but i have a few beliefs, i like to think that we all go to heaven, and the reason being is that where we are is hell, you cant get any worse than this, although i do think we should all make the most of life, but does anyone else believe we are in hell now so we all go to heaven?

No I believe I am on Earth and unless I get in a space craft I will remain on Earth until I die. There is nothing further after death.

I agree with Sandform insofar as proof is concerned; all my decisions are based on proof, otherwise I don't really make any assumptions when it comes to "knowing" anything for sure.

If you mean Heaven vis-a-vis Christianity, then hell no I don't think it is real. If you mean heaven in a subjective way, that is different. I would say oblivion is heaven compared to life.

to make it fully clear i fully believe we are on a planet created by the big bang. when i say this is hell, a better way of putting it is that there isnt really a hell because u cant get worse than this.

and how can u believe there is nothing after death, i think that is a pretty miserable way to live. do u not even believe in ghosts at least?

and by the way never, i dont mean heaven in a christian way, i just mean my mind/spirit or sumthing will carry on for eternity in happyness

Originally Posted by slash112

to make it fully clear i fully believe we are on a planet created by the big bang. when i say this is hell, a better way of putting it is that there isnt really a hell because u cant get worse than this.

and how can u believe there is nothing after death, i think that is a pretty miserable way to live. do u not even believe in ghosts at least?

No I am quite positive ghosts do not exist, aside from symbolic ghosts such as people who might as well be dead because they have given up on life or had horrible things happen to them.

sandform its quite naive to think that, are you not even open to the posibility?

Originally Posted by slash112

and how can u believe there is nothing after death, i think that is a pretty miserable way to live.

Think about that. Your implied premise is that if it is miserable, it must not be real.

Of course that is not what you were saying, but inwardly you are rationalizing this way. I do not personally say "there is nothing after death", but I do not say there is either. Belief is an enemy of truth; a very dangerous one. Entertain ideas all you want, just don't make anything concrete.

i like the way u think never, i supose ure rite but i just want something to live for

If you assume you are in hell, you will never get to heaven.

Hey, you know, I like to think we'll get to be rewarded too; to think, that maybe, we'll be happier- even in death- instead of insisting that there's nothing to live for but ourselves, and nothing to die for, except from age...

Though, it could be vain to say that I deserve heaven- which I don't think I do...

NOT saying, that being alive is not enough reason to be good, and to take care of each other- as fellow humans- with respect and love.

I dont belive this is hell, theres too much good stuff. Limbo pherhaps.. altho some peoples circumstances and lifestyles are much better than others... are there diff levels of limbo dependin on how good a person you were in your previous life? or is it all bollocks? ( i suspect the latter)

Originally Posted by slash112

i wasnt entirely sure wether to put this here or not but anyway...

im not really a religious person but i have a few beliefs, i like to think that we all go to heaven, and the reason being is that where we are is hell, you cant get any worse than this, although i do think we should all make the most of life, but does anyone else believe we are in hell now so we all go to heaven?

I have not read everything up till here, but I do have a thought on this matter.

I came to believe that the world is one big organism and everything plays its part. That is for plants, water, animals and in my opinion also for humans. That it is not obvious doesn't mean it isn't there.

By being born we somehow disconnect on some level to the nature that is life and I would like to believe that - life and death - is part of that bigger circle of life. So by dying we find inner peace and "return" to that circle of life as a whole connecting to everything again.

So on one Level you could say that being disconnected from what we come from is kind of "hell" because it is unnatural. We feel helpless and on a desperate, constant search for answers. From a certain perspective we humans are pretty pittyful creatures. And we are fully aware that there is a good chance, we will never be able to answer any of the big questions.

So, in our living time, we are disconnected from our roots, from nature, from our surroundings and one of the reasons for poverty, wars and suffering is that the "invisible connection" is denied. We continuously move further away from our roots, thus creating this hell. Some people can still feel that connection, others shift into forgetting and accepting the new manmade surroundings and beliefsystems. (e.g. awareness of lucid dreaming.. why so few?)

So what I believe is that when we die, we return "home". It will be a pleasent expierience nothing like anyone could imagine. We loose our narrow consciousness and become "whole". That is a form of heaven, since it completes the circle and is the meaning of us.

That is of course just my current state of mind.

But for me believing this, it becomes true. Just for me, not for anyone else, but that is also the point of existing, I think. We live our lives with certain expectations and hopes and with that we create the world around us, individually.

It will make more sense after the confusing "living part", I guess

Sorry to burst your private sphere, but the world could be a lot worse than this. After all, it could be... hell. You know, with the towering flames and endless torture and shit. I will agree that life is generally one fucker of a horrible thing, but it REALLY could be worse. And that's only as far as human imagination can take us...

I don't believe in heaven and hell though, so that might just be easy for me to say. I just don't get karma, it doesn't make sense. Well, it made sense to me when I was like six, but I grew out of it.

Originally Posted by Idolfan

Sorry to burst your private sphere, but the world could be a lot worse than this. After all, it could be... hell. You know, with the towering flames and endless torture and shit. I will agree that life is generally one fucker of a horrible thing, but it REALLY could be worse. And that's only as far as human imagination can take us...

I don't believe in heaven and hell though, so that might just be easy for me to say. I just don't get karma, it doesn't make sense. Well, it made sense to me when I was like six, but I grew out of it.

Hmm.... The world could be a lot worse that is right...


But it could be a LOT better.

When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars

This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
The age of Aquarius
Aquarius!
Aquarius!

Harmony and understanding
Sympathy and trust abounding
No more falsehoods or derisions
Golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revalation
And the mind's true liberation
Aquarius!
Aquarius!

When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars

This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
The age of Aquarius
Aquarius!
Aquarius!

Felt like quoting a song.

Has anyone ever thought that mabey hell was back when the dinosaurs roamed the earth and saitan ruled? But then god came along and through him out or something with an ice age. Sense hell is often connected with fire mabey the ice age put hell out (somewhere else). This sounds really stupid and off the wall but oh well. Just a thought. And Im sure theres someone out there that will go against this and will go in to detail of how this was simply impossible. But whatever. I'd Like to hear your opinions.

Originally Posted by Onahappynote

Has anyone ever thought that mabey hell was back when the dinosaurs roamed the earth and saitan ruled? But then god came along and through him out or something with an ice age. Sense hell is often connected with fire mabey the ice age put hell out (somewhere else). This sounds really stupid and off the wall but oh well. Just a thought. And Im sure theres someone out there that will go against this and will go in to detail of how this was simply impossible. But whatever. I'd Like to hear your opinions.

No.

Ok. It was just a thought. lol Thanks.

Originally Posted by DeathCell

Hmm.... The world could be a lot worse that is right...


But it could be a LOT better.

Indeed.

How "good" life is depends upon the situation of the one doing the analysis. I try to look at the situations of those who have it the worst in life.

Saying "it could be worse" is of course a great way to cope and that's fine, but realistically we all want to be happy, not miserable or even just plain satisfied for brief moments in life.

Originally Posted by slash112

i wasnt entirely sure wether to put this here or not but anyway...

im not really a religious person but i have a few beliefs, i like to think that we all go to heaven, and the reason being is that where we are is hell, you cant get any worse than this, although i do think we should all make the most of life, but does anyone else believe we are in hell now so we all go to heaven?

There is no heaven or hell. There is only an infinite frequency range.. The reality we live in now is within a certain frequency range. Its known as the physical plane. And its one of several levels of existence, awareness, consciousness, dimensions, or whatever the hell you want to call it.

Vibrations existing outside of the range of the five human physical senses normally escape our conscious perception.

For example, their could be an elephant standing right on your computer desk , but you can't perceive it because its most likely out of the normal frequency range.

People who meditate are able to reach certain frequency ranges. Think about it now, the average person only uses 10% of the brain in their lifetime.

Just like the astral plane. The astral plane operates at a higher frequency than the physical plane. Since the astral plane is at higher frequencies than the physical plane, thoughts are way more powerful. You can simply make something appear or change something just by thinking of it. Emotions, fantasies, all thoughts period are more powerful at higher ranges.

Some people may argue that the astral doesn't exist or its just your imagination. I'm not sure, because there is no scientific evidence to support it. But whatever you want to call it, those people that have experienced astral projection, their awareness was just at a different frequency range.

AS for as ghosts, i just think their conscious entities in another level of awareness (or another frequency range that we cannot perceive )that somehow is slipping into the physical frequency range

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

People who meditate are able to reach certain frequency ranges. Think about it now, the average person only uses 10% of the brain in their lifetime.

Incorrect, the average person uses all of their brain.

We are all going to die in this life.
A person uses every useable part of the brain.

no the average usage of the brain is actually around 10 percent. everyone knows that.

IF IT IS USEABLE< IT USES IT. if that's 10 percent, whatever.

Originally Posted by slash112

no the average usage of the brain is actually around 10 percent. everyone knows that.

It's a myth. Read this: http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percent.asp

Originally Posted by slash112

no the average usage of the brain is actually around 10 percent. everyone knows that.

It is a myth...If you look into neurology at all you will see that we use our whole brain. Maybe you are only using 10&#37;...but most people use 100%