The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
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Not to mention that the christian charity organizations suck. |
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The biggest problem with Christianity I see today that wasn't like this before was that we (yes I'm Christian) try to shove our rules down peoples throats because the world has gotten comfortable with us being here. The major problems change over the years (or decades or centuries). If you have ever read the book of acts (I'm not telling you to do it) Paul (or was it peter) is what the ideal Christian would look like if you look at the church then it was actually quite beneficial to the roman empire. That's not really the case today though most Christians from what I understand are legalists, and yes I'm a hypocrite. |
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"For a long time it gave me nightmares, having to witness an injustice like that. It was a constant reminder of how unfair this world can be, I can still hear them taunting him. 'Silly Rabbit, Trix are for kids!'... How come they just couldn't give him some cereal?"
Is that not enough? Those are some pretty major issues concerning free thought, don't you think? Do they teach that it's wrong to question God? You are told to accept everything in the bible on faith, some of which clearly contradicts reality. The mere concept of faith alone is the antithesis of free thought. I can't think of a more clear cut example. When science conflicts with the Word of God, you are told by default to side with God. Thus you are not free to think your own thoughts. |
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Last edited by Caprisun; 10-05-2010 at 04:13 AM.
"Someday, I think you and I are going to have a serious disagreement." -- Hawkeye (Daniel Day-Lewis) Last of the Mohicans
I'm going to have to disagree with most of what I've ready here. If someone else has made this point already, I'm sorry I didn't see it. Religion does nothing but hinder. There are no benefits whatsoever to it. Organized religion's only goal is to deter personal growth and promote a unity of mindless drones in order to make it easier to control them. I have no problem whatsoever in the belief of God or even every story in the Holy Bible. I believe them. Then again, I believe in every story that has ever been told and ever will be told. With infinite dimensions and possibilities, every story is true. But while I will debate my beliefs and reasons for them, I will never push them on others, because just because what I believe is right, doesn't mean what you believe is wrong. Spirituality is all encompassing and should be embraced. Religeon is narrow minded and should be rejected. Anyone ever notice the resemblance between religion and superiority groups like the KKK? The only difference is that religions find themselves superior to more people. Indeed the KKK is only an offspring to religion. The KKK would wish others dead, but religion wishes people to go to hell, which in my opinion is merely a made up place in order to keep people afraid, and thus easier to control. Tell me what person deserves an eternity of torment? If anyone answered this and actually believes someone does, they need to seriously refamiliarize themselves with the idea of eternity. I don't care if you raped a kid, murdered millions or even billions. Sure they deserve some nasty treatment. But eternity really? I think a lot of people instinctively associate eternity with a really long time with the possibility of escape or redemtion. No. Eternity is forever and ever. A million years of torture, then a million more after that. And that isn't even a millimeter to a lightyear, because it never ends. If anyone really wishes hell on another being, I would say they deserve more punishment than the person who murdered his whole family. You bear that whip and fire and see how long you have the desire to use it. Sorry, I kind of veered off there. Anyway, what I am trying to say is people should be enlightened, not filled with horror stories. A person should do good in life, not because they are afraid of punishment or even wish for greater reward when they get to "heaven". They should do it because the want to do it. Go spirituality. Down with religion |
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Why are you pretending like you are unaware of any conflicts? Do you need me to specify so you can ackowledge their existence? Is blind faith not the foundation of every large religious institution on our planet? That would mean your religion can't function at its most fundamental level without establishing a standard of ignorance among its followers. This is the corner stone of modern religion. What more could you want from me? |
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"Someday, I think you and I are going to have a serious disagreement." -- Hawkeye (Daniel Day-Lewis) Last of the Mohicans
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Formally Known as MrBlonde.
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This post makes no sense whatsoever. The KKK were a radical extremists they clearly didn't follow the rules. Please don't try and twist the truth here. |
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Formally Known as MrBlonde.
Formally Known as MrBlonde.
You, sir, are a fucking troll and elementary debater. You are putting words in my mouth. This gay gene is only ONE possible explanation of homosexuality. There are many more possibilities, such as complications during fetal brain development. If you think a person can just decide to be gay, I present to you a challenge: turn gay. Do it right now. You will find your efforts futile. |
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People always want to control people, regardless of the puppetmasters convictions. In the past ten years someone in France was fined for publicly stating his disagreement with the states limiting drug laws. That didn't have to do with religion. The U.S.S.R. had it's own propaganda against relgion, just as Christian's have propaganda for it. This is natural. Manipulating people's actions isn't nearly as satisfying as manipulating their thoughts- at least to many evil people. This isn't a religous thing. It's a power/intoxication thing. It isn't even really in line with Biblical doctrine. I know a Muslim who says the same thing, that the Quran encourages understanding ones reason for belief. It's interesting to look at the politics of religion, but wrong to blame non-religious specific faults on the concept itself. |
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I just assumed you talking about that. Yes there are many other reasons in which I am ready to debate. There is no reason for you to be cussing at me. If you don't agree with me fine I understand that but to call me a troll is another. I am here giving my opinions and point of view just like any other member. I am really sorry if my post offended you. Just thought I give my take on it. |
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Formally Known as MrBlonde.
I haven't read any comments other than the title of this thread. My answer is: No |
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I don't see why you should be sorry for offending anyone. I think the concern is well intended, but this is R/S. Everyone knows the stakes. So you aren't being a nuisance because your beliefs are different from the majority. That was why this sub-forum was made; so people could discuss reigion and debate their own view points and be comfortable about it. If anyone was really getting annoyed, they should have just left. Plus, this conversation seems perfectly on topic to me. The latest conversation is asking a basic question that has to be answered before any conclusion to the OPs question can be reached. |
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