Thread: What do Atheists do on Christmas?

Look it up if you really care. If I asked you who told you what 2+2 makes I think you'd be a bit lacking too. You still know it.

Does anyone know if they still make the vanillha flavour cola?

Originally Posted by Dreamhope11

Does anyone know if they still make the vanillha flavour cola?

They do. Along with cherry, raspberry, shit flavored and butterscotch as well.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

shit flavored

My fave

I dont see why aethists cant, for most people its a time of family bonding and having fun with the family clan, it dosnt have to be about religion.

and then of course, there are all the christians that are doing the opposite of what most people in this thread are talking about.

santas not in the bible, this gives aethists a reason to join in with the christmas season, of course, then the religious fanatics say that christmas is too commercial, true meaning of christmas, all that jazz.

thats just how i see it, great thread though.

Researchers calculate that Jesus was actually born some time in April.

Who knew?

Fuck December, celebrate then!

How would a researcher calculate such a thing?

Originally Posted by Lucid_boy

How would a researcher calculate such a thing?

Especially considering Jesus never existed. Fucking idiots.

Originally Posted by drewmandan

Especially considering Jesus never existed. Fucking idiots.

How many times do I have to tell people.. Jesus is alive and well.

Theirs like 5 in every county...

Originally Posted by drewmandan

Especially considering Jesus never existed. Fucking idiots.

I believe that you should probably consider checking out the general posting guidlines.

I think to say that these men just decided to make up a person for no apparent reason and start spreading there beliefs around is ludicrous. You seem to be forgetting that MANY of these believers including the disciples (peter being the most prominent of those who died) died for this new faith. If this was just some story they randomly made up why would peter, one of the original 12, die for it? It is likely that Jesus did exsist, was betrayed, and was crucified. Weather or not he had powers and was God's Son is a matter of faith. Some people have compared what the christian religion started out as to the cult's that end up getting in fire fights with the police and getting killed. Personally I don't believe that was how christianity started out, I believe the bible.

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

Researchers calculate that Jesus was actually born some time in April.

Who knew?

Fuck December, celebrate then!

I AM BORN IN APRIL I'M A JESUS REINCARNATION

Originally Posted by Dreamhope11

I AM BORN IN APRIL I'M A JESUS REINCARNATION

No.

Atheists celebrate christmas for the lulz.


Seriously.

I don't care if Jesus was born or died or if a rock rolled away from the cave. It's christmas. It's cold, snowy, and there's little sunlight, so we don't give a shit.

Originally Posted by Xei

And Coca Cola didn't actually make the first Santa or come up with the red Santa image... just an urban myth.

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

Ah...well...my bad.

But where did you hear that the red Santa image being created by Coca Cola is an urban myth?

Originally Posted by Xei

Just something I know... Wikipedia says the classic image was made by Thomas Nast in the mid 19th century.

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

Just something you know...

Your credentials impress me.

Originally Posted by Xei

Look it up if you really care. If I asked you who told you what 2+2 makes I think you'd be a bit lacking too. You still know it.

http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/h...ore_santa.html

"Starting in 1931, magazine ads for Coca-Cola featured St. Nick as a kind, jolly man in a red suit. Because magazines were so widely viewed, and because this image of Santa appeared for more than three decades, the image of Santa most people have today is largely based on our advertising."

"The Civil War cartoonist Thomas Nast drew Santa Claus for Harper's Weekly in 1862; Santa was shown as a small elf-like figure who supported the Union. Nast continued to draw Santa for 30 years and along the way changed the color of his coat from tan to the now traditional red. Though some people believe the Coca-Cola Santa wears red because that is the Coke® color, the red suit comes from Nast's interpretation of St. Nick."

Especially considering Jesus never existed. Fucking idiots.

Well, he did... he was embellished with magical powers later but Jesus was a historical religious leader.

Originally Posted by Xei

Well, he did... he was embellished with magical powers later but Jesus was a historical religious leader.

No, he really wasn't. There isn't a single shred of historical evidence that he ever existed. Gospels don't count.

I think you're forgetting that Christianity as we know it was created in the 4th century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

Apparently most historians believe there was a Jewish teacher called Jesus in the first half of the first century who was crucified...

I never really cared for history anyway.

Originally Posted by Xei

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

Apparently most historians believe there was a Jewish teacher called Jesus in the first half of the first century who was crucified...

I never really cared for history anyway.

There were probably several guys named Jesus, some of whom were teachers, some of whom were crucified. There were plenty of Jews and plenty of Romans crucifying Jews. So that's not good enough. For there to be THE Jesus, there would have to be solid evidence of the same man who was named Jesus and was Jewish and was crucified and had a messianic Jewish ministry and had disciples and was betrayed by a friend named Judas, etc. I'm not talking about A Jesus. I'm talking about THE Jesus.

drewmandan is right, there isn't much evidence that there did exist a Jesus. Do you think that four of the disciples could independently write more or less the same nonsense in their Gospels? About Jesus performing miraculous feats that normally don't happen? These obviously are either lies about a real character (and Jesus praised honesty, no?) or a simple fairy-tale (Jesus never existed).

The disciples came together and decided on a story, then went off and spread it around. Was the story based on a real Jesus? I doubt it. Even the Gospels don't say much about Jesus' background or history. And if you throw out the Gospels, you throw out all evidence of this character.

You can liken Jesus to an ancient "Harry Potter" if you will, what with performing magicks and whatnot.

Originally Posted by Xei

Look it up if you really care. If I asked you who told you what 2+2 makes I think you'd be a bit lacking too. You still know it.

Evaluating 2+2 is a bit different to determining the origin of the image of Santa Claus, because the value of 2+2 is dependent entirely on how '+' and '2' are defined. That is, if you know exactly what is meant by '2+2', then you can deduce its value.

Naturally but it was just an example.

Originally Posted by archdreamer

Evaluating 2+2 is a bit different to determining the origin of the image of Santa Claus, because the value of 2+2 is dependent entirely on how '+' and '2' are defined. That is, if you know exactly what is meant by '2+2', then you can deduce its value.

Originally Posted by Xei

Naturally but it was just an example.

A better example might be, who was it that first told you the name of X person. You could logically conclude who it might have been, but you couldn't be absolutely sure. Who told you your parent's names? (assuming you have any, if not then whoever happened to be your guardian for any length of time during your childhood) Well for me I could say well I would say my dad probably "told" me my mom's name and vice versa by simply using his or her name.

Originally Posted by DeathCell

Tell me it's not the 9th.

Why? No it is actually the 15th, same as MLK.

Originally Posted by Sandform

A better example might be, who was it that first told you the name of X person. You could logically conclude who it might have been, but you couldn't be absolutely sure. Who told you your parent's names? (assuming you have any, if not then whoever happened to be your guardian for any length of time during your childhood) Well for me I could say well I would say my dad probably "told" me my mom's name and vice versa by simply using his or her name.




Why? No it is actually the 15th, same as MLK.

The 9th would be my birthday.

I'd say that would explain our butting heads being a fellow goat.. But you probably don't believe in astrology, I'd assume.

Originally Posted by DeathCell

The 9th would be my birthday.

I'd say that would explain our butting heads being a fellow goat.. But you probably don't believe in astrology, I'd assume.

I would say everyone is bound to butt heads at some point...for the two of us specifically it has more to do with our conflicting world views, like astrology for example, than anything else.

Originally Posted by Sandform

I would say everyone is bound to butt heads at some point...for the two of us specifically it has more to do with our conflicting world views, like astrology for example, than anything else.

The weirdest thing is I used to hold probably all the same views as you.

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They have a great respect for authority but may not, if they reach high rank, be willing to listen to other opinions on things they are directly responsible for. As the ranking authority figure in a given situation they expect their underlings to be as self disciplined as they themselves are, and to perform every task undertaken to the highest standard.
They are, nevertheless, fair as well as demanding. Among their equals they are not always the most pleasant of work fellows for they are reserved and too conservative, valuing tradition more than innovation, however valuable the latter, and they are often humorless. There is also a tendency to pessimism, melancholy and even unhappiness which many Capricornians are unable to keep to themselves, especially if they fail personally. In the extreme this trait can make them a very depressed individual; ecstatic happiness alternating with the most wretched kind of misery which is so subconsciously buried that he or she should seek help if such emotions become frequent. For the above reason, capable Capricorn should spend many hours in meditation, gathering the strength to control such inner emotions.

The swings in mood are not the only reason some Capricornians deserve the adjective based on their name - capricious. They can be surprisingly and suddenly witty and subtle for the quiet, reserved individuals they seem to be, and they also have a tendency to ruin things by unexpected and utterly irresponsible bouts of flippancy. In certain individuals in whom the characteristic is strong, the temptation to do this has to be resisted with iron self-control. Another unexpected quality in some Capricornians is an interest in the occult which persists in spite of their naturally skeptical turn of mind.

Their intellects are sometimes very subtle. They think profoundly and deeply, throughly exploring all possibilities before deciding on a 'safe' alternative. They have good memories and an insatiable yet methodical desire for knowledge. They are rational, logical and clearheaded, have good concentration, delight in debate in which they can show off their cleverness by luring their adversaries into traps and confounding them with logic.

In their personal relationships they are often ill-at-ease, if not downright unhappy. They are somewhat self-centered but not excessively so, wary and cautious around people they do not know very well, preferring not to meddle with others and in turn not to allow interference with themselves, thus they tend to attract people who do not understand them. Casual acquaintances they will treat with diplomacy, tact and, above all, reticence. They make few good friends but are intensely loyal to those they do make, and they can become bitter, and powerful enemies. They sometimes dislike the opposite sex and test the waters of affection gingerly before judging the temperature right for marriage. Once married, however, they are faithful, though inclined to jealousy. Most Capricornians marry for life.

Their occupations can include most professions that have to do with math or money and they are strongly attracted to music. They can be economists, financiers, bankers, speculators, contractors, managers and real estate brokers. They excel as bureaucrats, especially where projects demanding long-term planning and working are concerned, and their skill in debate and love of dialectic make them good politicians. They are excellent teachers, especially as principals of educational establishments where they have the authority to manage and organize without too much intimacy with the staff members. If working with their hands, they can become practical scientists, engineers, farmers and builders. The wit and flippancy which is characteristic of certain Capricornians may make some turn to entertainment as a career.
Possible Health Concerns...

Capricorn governs the knees, bones and skin, so its subjects may be liable to fractures and strains of the knees and other defects of the legs. Skin diseases from rashes and boils to leprosy (in countries where that disease is prevalent) are dangers, and digestive upsets may be caused by the tendency of Capricorns to worry or suppress emotions. Anemia, Bright's disease, catarrh, deafness, rheumatism and rickets are also said to threaten the natives of this sign.

It also looks like you were born on a cusp so some Sagittarius qualities are probably involved too.