Thread: Question for athiests...

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

I feel that. I have a family member that was suicidal over guilt from masturbation. Thanks, Christianity.

While the Bible nowhere explicitly states that masturbation is a sin, there is no question as to whether the actions that lead to masturbation are sinful. Masturbation is nearly always the result of lustful thoughts, sexual stimulation, and/or pornographic images. It is these problems that need to be dealt with. If the sins of lust, immoral thoughts, and pornography are forsaken and overcome, masturbation will become a non-issue. Many people struggle with guilty feelings concerning masturbation, when in reality, the things that led to the act are far more worthy of repentance.

Originally Posted by kingerman

While the Bible nowhere explicitly states that masturbation is a sin, there is no question as to whether the actions that lead to masturbation are sinful. Masturbation is nearly always the result of lustful thoughts, sexual stimulation, and/or pornographic images. It is these problems that need to be dealt with. If the sins of lust, immoral thoughts, and pornography are forsaken and overcome, masturbation will become a non-issue. Many people struggle with guilty feelings concerning masturbation, when in reality, the things that led to the act are far more worthy of repentance.

Thinking about sex sex sex sex is perfectly normal. No one should feel guilty for it. You think about sex all the time. Women's naked bodies are amazingly beautiful. You are thinking about having sex with the same sex our the opposite sex right now. How do I know? I keep talking about sex. It's okay. I know, because you are human. We are biologically wired that way. That's why there are so many billions of us on the planet. We like to have sex a lot.

Ponder this paradox:

Thinking about having sex with someone is a lustful thought, or a sin, unless you are married to them. But, you would never get married to them unless you were sexually attracted to them. It's impossible to be sexually attracted to someone, fall in love with them, without thinking about wanting to have sex with them.

It's a tragedy that people in church who are gay will want to kill themselves because they feel guilty for being gay. It's a tragedy that people in church will want to kill themselves because they think about having sex with the same sex.

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Oh, and by the way, on the subject of sex, it says in the Bible that if a man rapes a woman who is betrothed, his punishment is to give her father 50 pieces of silver and he must marry her, and may not divorce her all of his days. (Yeah... and I never in all my 25 years of church, never heard that scripture preached on. I came across because I was so devout I read the Bible five times.)

Lovely. What a brutal punishment. Now, this sick fuck gets to rape her over and over again for the rest of her life, but it's not considered rape by society because they are married.

And, she is forced to marry her rapist, because she did what? Oh, she was born a woman, and women are property to be bought and sold like cattle. If you don't know the scripture reference, then you don't know your Bible well enough. It shouldn't be too hard to find.

The verse is Deuteronomy 22:28-29
If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Now that is some sick shit!

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Oh, and by the way, on the subject of sex, it says in the Bible that if a man rapes a woman who is betrothed, his punishment is to give her father 50 pieces of silver and he must marry her, and may not divorce her all of his days. (Yeah... and I never in all my 25 years of church, never heard that scripture preached on. I came across because I was so devout I read the Bible five times.)

Lovely. What a brutal punishment. Now, this sick fuck gets to rape her over and over again for the rest of her life, but it's not considered rape by society because they are married.

And, she is forced to marry her rapist, because she did what? Oh, she was born a woman, and women are property to be bought and sold like cattle. If you don't know the scripture reference, then you don't know your Bible well enough. It shouldn't be too hard to find.