Thread: A poll

Originally Posted by Xox

let's make communication easier!.

+1 respect

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Oh man...

The war thing was a friggin analogy. A fictitious example to make understanding easier. You think I'm actually talking about going to war? lulz

The "why do you hate me so much" thing was ironic, to show your speedy conclusions.

People trying to be superior by having views that are intentionally different from everyone else's is what I'm criticising. You were probably offended by this because I know you've done the same before.

Seriously, the worth of your opinion isn't measured by how eloquently you explain it.

Perhaps some of us should learn that.

I'm sorry you feel like people who try to explain themselves are really just trying to be superior.

Now, would you like to post on topic, or will you be leaving this thread alone from now on?

Originally Posted by Kromoh

I don't get what's with all these nearly-atheist-but-not-atheist people. Stop trying to have an opinion superior to everyone else. Neutral factions don't win any war, neutral factions are ignorant to war. Pick a side already.

Opinions are just opinions, don't think anyone on here is trying to make theirs seem superior. My religious views didn't fit into any option other than "Other - please specifcy" so I did. I believe what I believe, I don't need to pick a side or try to categorise it.

@ Xaq:

And what will you do? Ban me? You've been posting off-topic too. -.-


AALSO. The poll is still wrong. It's friggin athEIst, not athIEst. I wonder if believers do that just to piss atheists off.

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@ everyone:

I'd really want someone to enlighten me on the difference between an agnostic's beliefs and an atheist's beliefs. I mean, so many people call themselves agnostics, when they're actually atheists.

An atheist does not believe in god. An agnostic does not know whether a god exists or not.


I am some kind of panentheist. I believe that the universe is a representation of god manifested physically.

I'm an Eckist.

Originally Posted by LRT

I'm an Eckist.

What are the basic beliefs of eckankar that set it apart from other religions? I've wondered this for awhile and haven't been able to find an answer.

Oh man, let's not turn this into a thread about agnosticism. There have been a couple of other threads solely about that.

That said, my beliefs or lack thereof branch of into (of course) much more than that. But as I said, saying "atheist" just makes communication easier. If someone's interested, they ask questions and I'll explain. I think most of everyone has complex and detailed ideas about everything.

On a side note, I find it very charming when people explain their exact viewpoint in real life. It's refreshing.

uh, between pantheism and panentheism. :\

+ agnostic?

For all intents and purposes, I'm an atheist.

However, recently I've been drawn to pantheism. It's not that I'm rediscovering belief in a god, but rather I highly value the interconnectedness of all life. Secular pantheism may be a proper title.

You know, I was talking to this guy the other day. There are two ways you can see religion: as the truth or as (part of) a culture. I know many atheists that take lots of time to learn about religions just because they find them beautiful. It doesn't imply that they believe in them, though.

So far christians make up 6 % of R/S.. The only thing that suprised me was the huge ammount of 'Other'

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk

The only thing that suprised me was the huge ammount of 'Other'

Exactly what I criticized in my oh-how-inflammatory posts. People wanting to have unique opinions etc.

I hate how some people value having opinions more than the opinions themselves.

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk

So far christians make up 6 % of R/S.. The only thing that suprised me was the huge ammount of 'Other'

Well, there's only four faiths and two lack of faiths listed as options to choose, which leave a lot of other beliefs out. However, I don't think there are enough maximum options on the polls here to encompass even a twentieth of the belief systems of the world.

Originally Posted by Kromoh

Exactly what I criticized in my oh-how-inflammatory posts. People wanting to have unique opinions etc.

I hate how some people value having opinions more than the opinions themselves.

I don't see that at all. Choosing an ideology or faith that isn't mainstream doesn't necessitate the notion that they only chose said faith because it was unique.

Originally Posted by Catbus

Well, there's only four faiths and two lack of faiths listed as options to choose, which leave a lot of other beliefs out. However, I don't think there are enough maximum options on the polls here to encompass even a twentieth of the belief systems of the world.

Exactly. But, have you ever heard of statistical representation? Mainstream religions should appear more in statistics than their less-known counterparts. Or do you seriously believe most people get to a point in their life and choose the faith they will follow randomly? Nah, they keep the belief they were taught, which makes the statistics remain approximately the same over time.

Originally Posted by Catbus

I don't see that at all. Choosing an ideology or faith that isn't mainstream doesn't necessitate the notion that they only chose said faith because it was unique.

Yes, it doesn't necessitate such. However, that doesn't mean it isn't what happens. I don't see any agnostic/undecided person (which I think are much more reasonable than religious zealots) choosing a mainstream religion to follow. I think you know why. Don't make me number the problems of mainstream religion yet once again.

And I think you understand the charm of having an unique religion. Don't pretend there isn't any. That is what I criticize here - people choosing things because they want to have a cool opinion, and not because the opinion is true/important to them.

@ Kromoh: Maybe, maybe not. Some people probably do that, but it doesn't seem fair to assume that everyone who has a unique religion only chose it because they want to be different.

I'm agnostic, by the way.

Originally Posted by Hidden

@ Kromoh: Maybe, maybe not. Some people probably do that, but it doesn't seem fair to assume that everyone who has a unique religion only chose it because they want to be different.

Yes. Those who don't choose so because they want to be different are what I call exceptions, though.

Originally Posted by Catbus

Well, there's only four faiths and two lack of faiths listed as options to choose, which leave a lot of other beliefs out. However, I don't think there are enough maximum options on the polls here to encompass even a twentieth of the belief systems of the world.

I picked the choices based on the biggest religions. Those are the 'Big 4'

Originally Posted by stonedape

I'm guessing about 65% atheist, 10 buddhist, 10% agnostic, 10% other and 5% christian. We've flamed most of the christians away. Soon our mission will be complete. MUHAHAHA.

And atheist is still spelled wrong. LOL

i think there are more chirstians then buddists. aethiests do rule dreamviews though. I don't think we have any juws.

Originally Posted by guitarboy

i think there are more chirstians then buddists. aethiests do rule dreamviews though. I don't think we have any juws.

Its kind of sad, 'cause discussions are extremely predictable.

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk

Its kind of sad, 'cause discussions are extremely predictable.

It's fun watching the cranky atheists flame the sad christian fuck that wanders into R/S, though.

Wait wait wait...you guys have eradicated the majority of the Christians here? I LOVE YOU!

Originally Posted by Kromoh

People wanting to have unique opinions etc.

How can you be so sure that people claim opinions for the sake of uniqueness and not for the sake of explaining their genuine beliefs? Perhaps you can point out some examples in the thread and explain what gives them away to you.

Pick a side already.

Also, why?

Just wanting to see things the way you are seeing them. Mayhap that way I'll better understand your point of view here.