music alarms while asleep experiment

**JesterKK** · 09-26-2010 02:49 PM

ok for the last couple of weeks I've been using a certain method which has given me a few lucids. Before I was using this method, achieving lucidity was very rare for me, and now I'm having about 2 or 3 lucids per week. Here's the method:
1. Listen to some music that subconsciously reminds you of lucid dreaming. I use Subliminal lucid 3.0 by ninja9578. Perhaps while listening to it, read about lucid dreaming or about normal dreaming.
2. I put the music on a phone that has the capability to sound an alarm multiple times during the night without me touching it and does not increase in volume after each snooze period. I set the music track as the alarm tone.
3. I make sure that the phone does not vibrate when the alarm goes off.
4. I set the alarms at 4.5 hours after my expected sleep time, and at 90 minute intervals after that.
5. Make sure the alarm is fairly quiet and/or place it far away from your ears.
6. If the alarm wakes you up during the night then attempt a DEILD. If it does not wake you up then it might be too quiet or too far away, but it might also be the perfect distance away from you. If it does not wake you up and you experience lucidity then it is the perfect distance away. If it wakes you up sometimes, but not everytime it goes off then it is a good distance away and you should note whether it wakes you from a dream or some other type of sleep. You do not want to be woken up while dreaming ideally.

So far this method has been what I consider a success and you might be able to see that from my DJ. I have stopped making entries of non-lucids in it, so my recall is fairly poor, yet I have had a large spike in lucidity. Where I have gained lucidity, I have not been able to hear any music during my dreams and have not heard my alarm at all that night, but I know for a fact it has gone off multiple times. The trick here is not that you hear the music consciously while dreaming, but that your subconscious registers the music and you suddenly become lucid. I have had many moments of sudden lucidity with no reality checks.

This method is still in its nascent stages so anyone else who wants to test it out should join in. I might see how often I achieve lucidity when I stop using the method again just to be truly scientific, but I don't really want to stop having LDs.
The benefit of this method is that it does not take conscious effort or great awareness, but it relies on your subconscious ability to learn and perceive.
Also you are expected not to lose any sleep using this method.
It might help to maintain a fairly rigid sleeping pattern though, because if your body clock is unpredictable it will be more difficult to set the alarm reliably.

**JimmyD** · 10-07-2010 11:35 AM

Check this out:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f32/dream-song-105019/

After posting I just realized that you and I have a somewhat mutual idea.
Although I haven't proven mine works, I think I don't need to anymore because you have!

I have taken a break after a stressful stretch of frustration in my always uncontrollable dreams, so I'm not going to try anything for about a half a month so I can start again. But this is all good.
I'd like to normally be able to realize I'm dreaming at-least a few more times than 1, but for an extra boost it looks like this would work also. (as well and the other 999 methods out there).

Over all it looks like we discovered the same thing. We should keep in-touch - I'll let you know how it all goes.

**JesterKK** · 10-08-2010 01:25 AM

great. well yeah it would help for research purposes if as many people as possible could test this out. and it would help if there was anyone willing to experiment to find out whether this is a placebo or not. I've had this idea a long time, but haven't had the tools to use it until very recently. the last couple weeks I haven't had a lucid because of irregular sleeping patterns and anxiety. plus I haven't been reminding myself of lucidity at all. but once things settle down hopefully the dreams should start up again. I have had a few super vivid dreams though with heightened awareness. I tend not to hear music while I'm in the dreams actually, the lucidity just switches on and I hear only the dream stimuli. There have been times in the distant past where I have heard music playing in the waking world in my dreams, but that was very rare.

**JimmyD** · 10-08-2010 07:15 AM

Yeah. yes yes yes.
By the way - I think you should also check out EILD Tutorial - Dreamviews Lucid Dreaming Community & Resource
It's relevant.

**JesterKK** · 10-09-2010 03:05 PM

yeah i've tried that before. I guess this is EILD, but it uses music specifically. Before, I've tried wearing a sock and putting a vibrating phone in it, but it just wakes me up everytime it goes. might try again soon, but for now I'll stick with the music.

**JesterKK** · 12-19-2010 12:45 AM

ok, here's an update.
I had a dry spell of lucids from the 14th of october til the 21st of November. This was due to a very erratic sleeping pattern with some nights of no sleep at all.
my phone broke around the 26th of November so I had to stop using this technique.
I got my phone back from repairs on the 17th of December. I haven't had a lucid since the 21st of November.
I haven't even thought about lucid dreaming for well over a month except for after I had my last lucid.

no musical alarm = no lucids
erratic sleep pattern = no lucids

The findings are fairly inconclusive because even under 'optimal' conditions my lucids were fairly infrequent (approx. 3 per month).
And I am also unable to tell whether it was irregular sleep or the absence of music or chance that caused my dry spell.

Anyway, I just want to bump this thread and see if any more people are willing to try this method.
And I just want to stress again that this method is a form of EILD, but it does not require any conscious energy. i.e. you don't need to be aware that the signal has occurred,you should just become lucid automatically.

**YourDreamComeTrue** · 02-04-2011 04:50 AM

Great idea, I like it alot.
I'm gonna give it a try.
My chosen track is radiohead, everything in it's right place ( vanilla sky )
I will set it up on my ipod. I also have a pretty cool pillow that has a small speaker inside which is perfect for the job!
i'll let you know how I get on.

Dave.