Thread: Piracetam and Lucid Dreaming...

Me? Or the baby? I'm so confused!!!

Same picture?! Baby of doom?!

All silliness aside, yea I don't agree with spamming. It's one thing to tactfully advertise your product (I have a friend on FB who promotes her frozen yogurt shop), and another to just blast URL's across the interwebs. I mean you don't see large companies stuff as "spam" you see a apple logo, windows logo, nike check you don't see it as spam. But it pretty much is, just like any/all commercials on TV. Idk...at least that's how I feel lol

Originally Posted by TonyHChan

Hey I'm not a bot just to let you know.

That's exactly what a bot would say....

Seriously though, I know you work for the company. I've seen you advertising it on other forums as well.

What a naughty baby!! lol Botbaby, babybot....hmm

How could I be a bot seriously.

Honestly he might be very enthusiastic about Piracetam but I ever so heavily doubt he's a bot. Bots don't answer to claims of them being bots.

Well, he's obviously not a bot. But, affiliated with the company, yes.
Either that or he just happens to show up on any forum where smart drugs for thought is mentioned.

@StaySharp
Hey just to update you on the importation of piracetam. When I was in Sydney, Australia working as a Cisco Certified Network Professional, my third shipment of piracetam was confiscated by the TGI. I had no idea it was a Schedule 4 drug there and it was definitely a close call. I did not get in any trouble from this - I basically just said whatever and let them throw it away or whatever they did with it. Just check what the laws are in your country before you even consider. I don't know you but I wouldn't want you to risk anything for a substance. In S. Korea they seem to not care about it so I have not had any probs with customs.

Hey tommo I do apologize if I come off as a bot or someone who is affiliated with the company. I do work in the cisco networking field as a CCNP here in Seoul, Korea 6 days a week - on call. The lucid dreams I experience from piracetam and choline (as choline bitartrate) are real and they are wonderful. Not only do I experience lucid dreaming, I have an increase in photo sensitivity and my intake for bright colors are enhanced. Recently. I found some documentation on a current test on a age from from 19-24. This had me convinced why this was coming from the piracetam and how this is actually beneficial to me. In the past I did suffer a head injury that still gives me minor tinitus and maybe it I was able to see things much better than before. It seems that this has also decreased my noise level from tinnitus. I'm sure this has to deal with it alleviating issues with my central nervous system.

Piracetam and Piracetam-Like Drugs
From Basic Science to Novel Clinical Applications to CNS Disorders
Andrei G. Malykh and M. Reza Sadaie
NovoMed Consulting, Silver Spring, Maryland, USA ª 2010 Adis Data Information BV. All rights reserved.

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Piracetam also improved colour discrimination in patients (aged 19–24 years) who suffered from traumatic brain injuries of different severity.

Hmmmm.... ok, well I'll let it rest for now.
I am in Australia now. SO it's basically impossible for me to get it. I'm looking at other nootropics besides the racetams, but it seems the vasodilating effects are less selective to the brain.

Yeah I've already taken a small look on the laws and it was enough to tell me I wont get it unless someone I know gets Piracetam prescribed. Because if he/she would then give it to me, then that wouldn't be illegal anymore, and the risks of taking it would be up to myself like with all medicaments you take.

As for the tinnitus, I'm pretty sure piracetam helped you, while browsing for experiences with Piracetam I've also came across reports that Piracetam is occasionally prescripted to people with tinnitus and it helps.

Originally Posted by StaySharp

Yeah I've already taken a small look on the laws and it was enough to tell me I wont get it unless someone I know gets Piracetam prescribed. Because if he/she would then give it to me, then that wouldn't be illegal anymore, and the risks of taking it would be up to myself like with all medicaments you take.

As for the tinnitus, I'm pretty sure piracetam helped you, while browsing for experiences with Piracetam I've also came across reports that Piracetam is occasionally prescripted to people with tinnitus and it helps.

I'm not exactly up to date on German law.... but, I think you have misunderstood how it works. Unless it's the most ridiculous law ever enacted. There's no reason it should be legal if you're using someone else's prescription.

Originally Posted by tommo

I'm not exactly up to date on German law.... but, I think you have misunderstood how it works. Unless it's the most ridiculous law ever enacted. There's no reason it should be legal if you're using someone else's prescription.

Right that's totally ridiculous, but the law is against import and illegal selling, it's not telling anything about the voluntary use of the medicament itself. If there is an law against that it's unrelated to all posts and laws I found so far, which I can't exclude. Either way I won't risk anything illegal but you know... since when do laws make sense? And at least here in germany people are busy taking down the last laws which make sense one by one so whatever.

Hahaha! Sorry to hear about the legal status of Piracetam in both of yalls countries! I feel like I'm rubbing it in your face

I have been taking DMAE and Vinpocetine as well as a bit of DMAA. I have to admit, it was quite the rush stacking these three along with the Piracetam that I've been taking. I was highly motivated and managed to get a lot accomplished the last two days and even had some seriously intense dreams.

I never have time to write them in the morning, I might download like a voice recorder app for my phone so I can talk about my dreams right after I wake up.

The dream I had last night, was about me being a samurai. Which is often a reoccuring theme in my dreams, and fighting off a bunch of people trying to steal my laptop. Yea....I know...weird and anachronistic. It was nice, I wish I could remember more of it, all I know is that there was some sort of important file in the laptop I was supposed to take to someone (never did, ended up just fighting outside for almost the entire dream) LOL

Originally Posted by tommo

Hmmmm.... ok, well I'll let it rest for now.
I am in Australia now. SO it's basically impossible for me to get it. I'm looking at other nootropics besides the racetams, but it seems the vasodilating effects are less selective to the brain.

Yeah man you definitely need to be careful ordering piracetam to Australia. When a batch of a order arrived to TGI it was confiscated when recognized. I learned this the hard way and took the 30-40 dollar loss on that incident. They don't seem to take any supplements lightly when they catch it. The first and second order got to me without a problem like I said. It's all chance in my opinion.

Yeah, I've ordered a few things without trouble, but then every single thing I order which is legit ends up getting opened and checked lol
Luckily customs budget will be getting cut this year. Good time to order stuff!

I hear you out buddy. They don't seem to be too strict although this was back in 2009. They nabbed my last import of piracetam and I was without it for at least 2 months, but I wasn't going through any withdraws or addictive like symptoms with it lol. I just switched to some coffee and B-complex for the time being. Honestly, I need piracetam for when I am working on the field on call. It gets pretty intense operating as a network engineer plus I am trying to study logic for the CCIE, but I just don't have that much time. Maybe now they will loosen up on the supplement harassment there and leave people alone about a supplement really. I wouldn't call piracetam a drug, it's more like a non-toxic cognitive enhancer.Sorry to get off topic, but have you visited MCA museum in Sydney?? Pretty cool site there I did enjoy it. Beautiful city btw and never quite had the chance to visit Melbourne.

So I was doing a bit of research tonight and I found out L-Theanine (found in green tea) actually raises the GABA receptors which is what Piracetam acts on. So essentially it would enhance the effects of Piracetam. I'm going to give it a shot, just need to find a good green tea now lol

I'm wondering if this coupled with my Choline in the morning would help with the Lucid dreaming. I imagine it will, however I need to test on it more and find out about it.

I want to just state that the last three nights have been filled with amazing dreams. Yes there are some "sad" parts, I think most of my dreams typically seem to start off as nightmares, and then I just....you know twist them to where I want them to go.

Tuesday:

My brothers and I were training at some martial arts dojo ran by an old man. The dream progresses like around 3 months or so, and a dragon comes killing my brothers and leaving. The old man gives me a ring and I transform into a dragon at will. I fly off into the sky towards the departing dragon that had slain my brothers and dueled it as a dragon. After defeating the dragon I returned to the dojo only to find that old man had revived my brothers. The old man told me that it wasn't the ring that had transformed me, and that I had willed it into being.


Pretty 3p!c if I say so myself. I told myself to become a dragon, and I did. And sorry for the lack of details and glitz, I typically am a much better writer, but I can only remember the keypoints to the dream..I definitely am liking how L-Theanine and Piracetam are working together though. I had a dream on wednesday night but all I can remember about it was that I was in a desert, a whole bunch of frogs and rain.

So I just ordered some Aniracetam, and I am wondering if it stacked along with Piracetam will increase the "lucidity" of my dreams. I tried a small amount the other day when I recieved my package and it gave a small energy boost so I know I definitely shouldn't try to take it shortly before going to sleep (although it could just be my body isn't adjusted to the ampakine).

Any one know?

Originally Posted by Shadow12ogue

Yes I take choline as well, and sorry about that..

Yea, I take choline, and get it from eating eggs in the morning. Yea, I take piracetam in the morning with my coffee lol. And I've never tried galantamine, I know someone who did take it regularly however it would upset their stomach. So I never really gave it a shot, and I'm content with how piracetam has been.

I'm finding it a lot easier when waking up from a dream to fall back into it. I normally have trouble sleeping at night so, continuously would wake up with out being able to fall back to sleep so quickly. I've had lucid dreams since I was a child, I had an interesting dream last night actually. I should have written it down when I had woken up. :/

so how do you eat your eggs?
Boiled or fried
do you think that Lecithin its a good source of choline?

Originally Posted by Shadow12ogue

I recently started taking Piracetam (8 months ago) for my memory issues dealing with short term memory and to help me with my SAD/ASD since I don't like taking pharmaceuticals.

This is funny and contradictory but I won't go there.

I had some experience with piracetam a couple years ago, taking it everyday before work, study and basically anything that I thought would be mentally tiring. I think the stuff works, personally, but I couldn't say for sure that my ability to dream was dramatically enhanced or anything. I'm sure if you put the attention on trying to become lucid just like you put energy into learning something or work, then I think the results would be comparable, and maybe your recall might be a little better.

Originally Posted by Shadow12ogue

So I just ordered some Aniracetam, and I am wondering if it stacked along with Piracetam will increase the "lucidity" of my dreams.

I would recommend taking one or the other, not both.

Originally Posted by darklight101

so how do you eat your eggs?
Boiled or fried
do you think that Lecithin its a good source of choline?

I typically eat my eggs fried, although some mornings I do have them scrambled. Just really depends on what else I'm eating with my eggs.

Originally Posted by Phion

This is funny and contradictory but I won't go there.

I had some experience with piracetam a couple years ago, taking it everyday before work, study and basically anything that I thought would be mentally tiring. I think the stuff works, personally, but I couldn't say for sure that my ability to dream was dramatically enhanced or anything. I'm sure if you put the attention on trying to become lucid just like you put energy into learning something or work, then I think the results would be comparable, and maybe your recall might be a little better.

LOL yea I know turning to other drugs versus pharmaceuticals, however here in the USA I don't have to have a prescription for my Nootropics nor do I have a long list of side effects that essentially would make them counter-productive.

I've recently added Pramiracetam to my cognitive stack, and I've noticed a lot more dreams. I have been having a dream almost every night for the last 5 days, and if I wake up during a dream I've found it a lot easier to fall back asleep and continue with the very same dream. I dreamt I was in a Amusement-park-esque prison last night, and spent most of my time lost and running around oddly coloured hallways haha.

I have been taking Piracetam for quite a while now and I don't think it has done anything to effect my dreams, with normal day time use. At least, not much. I think I am remembering more dreams even when I don't have a good sleep pattern (usually when my sleep is off, I remember fuck all) but that's about it. I can't tell whether my dreams are more crazy, as they are always pretty damn out there anyway.

This is just daily use, I guess I will have to try taking it with WBTB.

WBTB? What is that?

And yea, my dreams are pretty out there too for the most part however I'm easily recalling my dreams. Such as last night I dreamt that I went to a movie and outside in the parking lot Spiderman was killed. Apparently I was dreaming that I was in the Marvel universe, definitely a weird dream though. Considering Spiderman is one of my favorite superheroes.