Thread: The SSILD test. - 30 days.

Yea now I just need to work on staying focused in a lucid and try to complete a goal, I've had plenty of lucids, but almost never end up fulfilling my wishes of what I want to do when I get lucid.

I am very happy to see that some of you are having good success with SSILD. This thread is very valuable stuff. Please make sure you guys check out the latest SSILD tutorial published on my blog: blogspot.com

I need to get back to doing SSILD. I have been saying I am going to, but I am too concentrated on waking up every REM.

Hey cosmiciron, tutorial says to get 4-5 hours of sleep. What if I do this at 4 hours and 6 hours and 7 hours? (My usual waking time) would it be useless to try it after the initial time or would it be good?

Day 20

Testing out some home-brew techniques... I fell asleep before I did my SSILD cycles.

Now I have to decide whether to do 30 days, or 30 attempts--I just realized that I've missed half of them.

Attempts: 10, Lucids: 5, OBE's: 1, FA's: 13, HI's: 2

I would go with attempts. 30 days with 15 attempts seems like it doesn't give you the information you are wanting.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

I need to get back to doing SSILD. I have been saying I am going to, but I am too concentrated on waking up every REM.

Hey cosmiciron, tutorial says to get 4-5 hours of sleep. What if I do this at 4 hours and 6 hours and 7 hours? (My usual waking time) would it be useless to try it after the initial time or would it be good?

Whatever works for you, doesn't really have to be exact. I can get it to work with only 2 hours of sleep. Basically, once you master it you can pretty much get it to work no matter what. However, a not very drowsy state usually yields better results.

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

Whatever works for you, doesn't really have to be exact. I can get it to work with only 2 hours of sleep. Basically, once you master it you can pretty much get it to work no matter what. However, a not very drowsy state usually yields better results.

Gotcha. Is the phase supposed to feel like you are leaving your body? Er.... getting two bodies at once? I had 3 LDs last night, and I think it started because of the SSILD. I don't know why I stopped doing this, if seemed to work so well and I somehow forgot about it and didn't think about starting up.

I'm gonna post the 3 LDs in my DJ today if you want to check it out.

Day 21: didnt sleep well, no results

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

Gotcha. Is the phase supposed to feel like you are leaving your body? Er.... getting two bodies at once? I had 3 LDs last night, and I think it started because of the SSILD. I don't know why I stopped doing this, if seemed to work so well and I somehow forgot about it and didn't think about starting up.

I'm gonna post the 3 LDs in my DJ today if you want to check it out.

The word "phase" is used to describe whole bunch of phenomenon such as LD, OBE, NDE, and so on in the hope to stay neutral. Maybe you are referring to the trance state while cycling? Anyway, the sensations felt can vary quite a lot. Personally I almost never incur anything unusual during the cycles, while some people experience all sort of wild things.

Day 21

Too busy again, no attempts this morning. (although I did have some strangely vivid HI experiences last night, I guess because of sleep deprivation--strong enough that a couple times I'd jolt aware, realizing I was like starting to hear things and stuff, like imagination except fading into real perceptions without intending it to)

@BrandonBoss

Yeah, I'm going to go with the 30 attempts.

Attempts: 10, Lucids: 5, OBE's: 1, FA's: 13, HI's: 2

Day 1

So I decided to try the technic out and log here how it goes. Last night was my first attempt and it got me pretty satisfied.

I naturally woke up after 4 hours of sleep, got up for a couple of minutes, maybe ten. While I was up, I avoided lights at all costs, as I knew they could get me way too awake (just couldn't help the cellphone light as I checked what time it was and the fridge's light). Back to bed, lying on my back (least favorite position), I began the cycles. Did like 4 of the quick one and some 6 of the long ones, though it is hard to be sure: you indeed lose count!
Then I rolled to my side and tried to get back to sleep. It wasn't being exactly easy (probably because I was too excited about the nem tech), but it became impossoble as a mosquito came in and bugged me all he could. I lost patience and got up of bed once again, turned on the light ("yeah, screw SSILD, I have bigger issues right now!") and hunted down the damn bloodsucker. After that, I went back to bed and decided to go all over the cycles again, but this time lying on my side. My presleep thoughts were so agitated at this point that I was having a real hard time doing the cycle and ended up getting asleep even before having a chance of doing the longer cycles.

About two hours later I naturally woke up again, but it took me a while to realize I was awake. Then I began paying attention to what I was thinking about, and I saw it was some weird memories. Then suddenly I realized that these were no real memories, they were fragments of my dreams! The dreams were so vivid that it really took me a while before I noticed they weren't waking life memories! Incredible, I said to myself, I don't recall ever experiencing some thing like that! Then I tried doing cycles once more, it was difficult to keep focus on the senses (this time I am sure I was really excited) but I managed to reach the longer cycles, during which I fell asleep once more. Naturally woke up later, but this time I could not recall a single fragment of dream. [EDIT: half an hour after writing this, I actually recalled some parts of a dream I had in this last sleep period. Not as vivid as the ones I had earlier in the night, but much more vivid than my usual ones]

So this is it for my first time trying this technic. I know the post is a little long, but it is just because I got really excited and wanted to share the experience in details. Next post, if I ever come to writing them, will surely be much more sucint.

Lucids: 0, OBE's: 0, FA's: 0, HI's: 0

^^^ Remember, that if you have trouble falling asleep after doing SSILD, do a RC. It can be a FA.
Some time ago, I've done a SSILD. I had such a trouble falling asleep, I've done like 3-4 nose plug RCs, and I couldn't breath. But when I did the 5th RC... I could breath

^^^ Remember, that if you have trouble falling asleep after doing SSILD, do a RC. It can be a FA.
Some time ago, I've done a SSILD. I had such a trouble falling asleep, I've done like 3-4 nose plug RCs, and I couldn't breath. But when I did the 5th RC... I could breath

I did lots of RCs, but they didn't get me any result. Anyway, I was also trying the "look at your hands" RC, which can be quite a silly one if you are dreaming of being in a dark room... :p

Anyway, pretty interesting this thing of you having to try 5 times before getting a result with nose plug. I've heard this is the single most reliable one out there... Do you think the first four attempts were false positives, or that you still weren't dreaming?

Nice technique
I tried it last night but unfortunately i'm a heavy sleeper , very lazy to get out of bed to wbtb :/
Even when i adjust an alarm , i get out , turn it off and continue sleeping lol

Originally Posted by lucsande

I did lots of RCs, but they didn't get me any result. Anyway, I was also trying the "look at your hands" RC, which can be quite a silly one if you are dreaming of being in a dark room... :p

Anyway, pretty interesting this thing of you having to try 5 times before getting a result with nose plug. I've heard this is the single most reliable one out there... Do you think the first four attempts were false positives, or that you still weren't dreaming?

The first 3-4 RCs were done when I was still awake. I falled asleep into a FA, and did the RC thinking that I'm still awake.

I had an another cool attempt too. I did 2 cycles of SSILD, falled asleep, and continued doing them in a dream

Day 1:

Hey guys. I've been out of the lucid dreaming scene for a looooong time. I used to use Naiya's all day awareness method and I was getting about 2 lucids each week. I want to get back into lucid dreaming so I read this last night and thought I would give it a shot along with doing all day awareness. Here's what happened:

I woke up at 5:40am and got up to visit the bathroom and get a drink. After about 3min I hopped back into bed, relaxed for a minute and then started to try and do my SSILD cycles. Unfortunately I seriously could not keep my concentration for the life of me. I don't know why, I was trying hard but I guess I was just too tired as I had done about 5hours of exercise yesterday. I did manage to get one full rep done though and I also tried to do more. As I was laying in me bed, I then did a nose pinch RC and it was successful surprisingly haha. I haven't done that RC in about 2 years so it felt really funny breathing through a closed nose haha. I woke up right afterwards though (or was it a false awakening? I cant remember) so I'm not going to count it as a lucid.

I think I'm going to keep at this for the full 30 days along with using all day awareness. I want to have at least 5 lucid dreams in a month.

Lucids: 0, FA: 0

Originally Posted by Tushix

Day 1:

Hey guys. I've been out of the lucid dreaming scene for a looooong time. I used to use Naiya's all day awareness method and I was getting about 2 lucids each week. I want to get back into lucid dreaming so I read this last night and thought I would give it a shot along with doing all day awareness. Here's what happened:

I woke up at 5:40am and got up to visit the bathroom and get a drink. After about 3min I hopped back into bed, relaxed for a minute and then started to try and do my SSILD cycles. Unfortunately I seriously could not keep my concentration for the life of me. I don't know why, I was trying hard but I guess I was just too tired as I had done about 5hours of exercise yesterday. I did manage to get one full rep done though and I also tried to do more. As I was laying in me bed, I then did a nose pinch RC and it was successful surprisingly haha. I haven't done that RC in about 2 years so it felt really funny breathing through a closed nose haha. I woke up right afterwards though (or was it a false awakening? I cant remember) so I'm not going to count it as a lucid.

I think I'm going to keep at this for the full 30 days along with using all day awareness. I want to have at least 5 lucid dreams in a month.

Lucids: 0, FA: 0

Welcome back, then Please note that with SSILD you are not supposed to maintain concentration. Just do it in a very relaxed manner and let go eventually. The magic starts AFTER you fall asleep.

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

Welcome back, then Please note that with SSILD you are not supposed to maintain concentration. Just do it in a very relaxed manner and let go eventually. The magic starts AFTER you fall asleep.

Thank you
I'll keep that in mind for my next attempt. Thanks for sharing such a simple yet effective method.

Is it okay to do SSILD with a fan on for white noise? I'm really used to sleeping that way, so I'd prefer to do that, but I can turn it off for a WBTB SSILD if I have to.

I then did a nose pinch RC and it was successful surprisingly haha... I woke up right afterwards thpugh, so I am not going to count that as a lucid

I really think you should count that as a False Awakening though. Just for the sake of science hahaha

PS: how well do you manage doing your All Day Awareness? Do you add some RCs to your awareness routine, Tushix?

Originally Posted by Matt1

Is it okay to do SSILD with a fan on for white noise? I'm really used to sleeping that way, so I'd prefer to do that, but I can turn it off for a WBTB SSILD if I have to.

Yes it's fine. Just focus on listening (the action), not what you hear (the result).

Day 2:

I had a horrible sleep because I was at a party last night. I did wake up to try SSILD though but I have no memorable results. I'm having a lot of trouble with dream recall because I haven't done this in so long, which may be hindering my performance. Anyway, no results I can recall from last night.

Lucid: 0 FA: 0

Day 2

I wasn't sleeping at home this night. Woke up after 4 and a half hours of sleep, went to the bathroom, ate something and went back to bed. Tried the cycles, but my thoughts were drifting away very fast. I mean really fast. Even though I wasn't lying on my favorite position, I wasn't capable of doing 2 quick cycles before spacing out. After trying a lot, rarely being capable of completing a full long cycle, I gave up and went to sleep.

When I woke up in the morning I was very disappointed because I recalled no dreams at all. I stayed at bed for a while when out of the blue I remembered some fragments and they seemed amazingly vivid (not as much as the dreams from the night before, but still much more vivid than my usual dreams). One thing I have noticed is that when I wake up after practicing this technic, I just lay in bed for a longer while than usual before I realize I am awake. This may be just an impression, or perhaps just coincidence.

Lucids: 0, OBE's: 0, FA's: 0, HI's: 0

Originally Posted by lucsande

Day 2

I wasn't sleeping at home this night. Woke up after 4 and a half hours of sleep, went to the bathroom, ate something and went back to bed. Tried the cycles, but my thoughts were drifting away very fast. I mean really fast. Even though I wasn't lying on my favorite position, I wasn't capable of doing 2 quick cycles before spacing out. After trying a lot, rarely being capable of completing a full long cycle, I gave up and went to sleep.

When I woke up in the morning I was very disappointed because I recalled no dreams at all. I stayed at bed for a while when out of the blue I remembered some fragments and they seemed amazingly vivid (not as much as the dreams from the night before, but still much more vivid than my usual dreams). One thing I have noticed is that when I wake up after practicing this technic, I just lay in bed for a longer while than usual before I realize I am awake. This may be just an impression, or perhaps just coincidence.

Lucids: 0, OBE's: 0, FA's: 0, HI's: 0

You might need to adjust your schedule. Try waking up naturally if possible. Sufficient sleep usually yields better result. Your observation on the wake-up latency is correct. SSILD does tend to do that, and that is a perfect window of time for performing an instant phase entry. Just relax your head and allow it to sink into the pillow while concentrating on the ears. Doing so, once mastered, will result in instant vibration and subsequent RC will usually be successful.