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      Cool Igniting Lucidity Technique~ILT

      Hello oneironaughts. This is an easy and Very effective technique that I've been holding because of the generic copying people have been doing lately. You know, find some tech, label a new name on it and says it works. Anyways, I thought I would care to elaborate on a technique that works every time (not exaggerating) for me and I assume it will do for you. This technique has not been tested on anyone (I actually thought of just passing it to my bloodline because of the conflicts in the past). Also this will be the last tech posted by "Malac". Further techs will be created by the organization I've planned to create.

      Igniting Lucidity~ILT

      Preparation
      This doesn't really matter much, as long as you slept earlier and sure that you can go in the REM process as soon as you go asleep, then you've completed preparation. I do advise that you've had at least 4-5 hours of sleep earlier though. Basically what I'm saying is that you need to WBTB or do this when you Nap(anytime in the 9 hours after you slept).


      Technique
      Simple. Let me explain. Have you ever tried a WILD or just tried to have normal sleep but you couldn't because those thoughts in your head couldn't shut the hell up? Or have you've ever heard someone tell you that if you want to DILD, etc... that you gotta think and repeat the words "I want to Lucid Dream" or whatever mantra, because those words were that last words as a meaning to your subconscious before you slept? Again, those annoying words that drift you off so far from your goal from thinking of " I will realize I'm dreaming" to imagining your self on some space pirate adventure in Iceland, making you soo far from the subject? I mean heh, the more you resist them thoughts, the more annoyed you get huh? Or you succeed in making them vanish but forget Lding all together lol.


      Well this is what I, Ladys and Gentleman, found out a month ago from theorizing to doing it! If you actually work with these thoughts, or let me put this in another way, if you were to influence these annoying (whatever you interpret them) thoughts into Lucid dreaming thoughts, you can hit an LD from the very start of a dream, thus making it a WILD, or getting a DILD everytime!!!

      Now, do I have your attention yet? You might be wondering, just how do I do that? These subconscious automatic thoughts? This inner voice. Well, I'll tell you just how from my perspective. In a metaphor, it's like giving a nudge(ignite) on a marble thats on the edge of a slope. Once doing that, it rolls all on its on downhill. Yes it might go different directions slightly but it's still going "downhill". Now for simple steps that I'm sure you want.
      >Summarization of steps 1 and 2 in understandable terms <

      Basically be the observant, while letting your thoughts freely go wild, but "will" the topic of lucid dreaming to slip in the random thoughts to push it the right direction. Just lightly conceptually "insert" the topic of lding in the gibberish. I find that its waay easier if your mind is clear. Do some tweaking around if you have to but eventually you'll find out what I mean. I find that you should just normally go to sleep but "multi-task" slightly for a moment to influence these thoughts, then go on to sleep again without worrying, as long as your inner voice is talking about lucid dreaming with no effort from you, then it will be successful.Difficult to explain in words but what I've said should be right. When you feel that lucid dreaming is being automatically brought up as a topic by your subconscious or whatever is talking, then continue to just listen as you would with the random thoughts( you'll have to anyways since its the only thing you're thinking of) and you'll asleep soon.Two things will happen.
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      1. You'll hear those thoughts in your head saying stuff like "am i dreaming" automatically and you'll have a WILD or
      2. You'll be in a DILD from or near the beginning.


      The whole process takes as long as it takes for you to goto sleep because all you're pretty much doing is altering that inner voice to what "you" want it to be. Either if it's gibberish or talking about lucid dreaming, there's still no effort on your part for sleep to take any longer then it did when that inner voice spoke nonsense, just now it's talking about Lding.

      You might get automated phrases such as "Lucid dreaming is cool" or "Lding is awesone" or some huge explanation about it, it can get very deep. I even get songs from time about Lding (yes they suck). Basically all you're doing is the same ol going to sleep routine but slightly for a moment adjust that inner voice for a sec or two and then continuing your sleep without having to think or worry about anything else as because the trap is set (The trap for Lds baby).

      I have to say, for typing this up very late in at night (well morning) I think I explained it good enough. I'm sure you get it. I could only explain from my POV but hopefully later I can be more thorough on this technique if you're confused, as in every topic there are always those people who doesn't get it. The instructions of this were made on the spot because I haven't considered to make this a tutorial until now. So basically this is a draft/revision version huh? Hope those who try this have success and make variations based off this.

      Tootos , I'm off to sleep and have LD sex tonight (just saw some hot chick on the net earlier)
      Last edited by malac; 04-27-2008 at 09:05 PM. Reason: Update
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      Interesting. I'll try it next time I can't sleep.

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      Sounds easy, thanks!
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      Oh I get it, so you're taking it to advantage the fact that it's easy to get annoying thoughts? That's good thinking, nice post.

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      Clever technique ill try it, nice one

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      I see where your getting at, and i know exactly how ill do it
      Im gonna try this technique out for the next week or so, still needa improve dream recall atm :S


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      Heh thanks, if you have any questions, I'll try to answer them.
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      Yes, how good are you good at LD'ing? Just curious.

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      I did this last night, and I had a DILD after not having one for about the last month. Not completely sure whether it was the technique (since I just followed the advice and tried to "influence" my thoughts), but I'll try it again tonight and let you know. If it works again, I'd say we've found a winner. Thanks for the post.

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      Way to get it together Malac.

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      Cool

      oh wow when'd you start posting again... dont worrie Im not gonna start anything. If anything congratz on posting it and not screwing us over again. Well I hope your organization/cult/ what ever goes well malac.
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      dude...actually makes a lot of sense. I must try it, TONIGHT!!
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      It sounds like a pretty simple tech, I like it. I've never tried it to often to think about lucid dreaming before sleep, because it tends to keep me awake, but maybe I could carefully make them into lucid dreaming thoughts, I think I will simple imagine being in a lucid dream.

      Oh, and malac, I've become pretty good with tactile sensations lately, eh well the main thing I've practiced as of the past week has been visualisation, but it's quite fine tuned, even though not always stable, and not always what I want it to be. I could be wilding in a bit, my plan to do it was to protend to ride a bike, well visualising a path to ride on, and maybe imagine some music.



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      But if your listening to it, your consontraiting on it.. And you wont fall asleep.. Its hard to understand :S ..your daying listen to that voice inside your head.. change it to lucid dreaming, And listen.. But all the things that are said is you controlling it, maybe its just me...
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      I understand what you are saying Malac.

      But in order to get your subconcious to start "talking" about lucid dreaming, lucid dreaming needs to be in your daily residue. Which boils down to reality checks and dream recall, just like all the other techniques. I just try to keep lucid dreaming my main topic of conversation for the day, and do regular reality checks. By creating memory impressions you can greatly increase your chance to snap into lucidity.

      Furthermore, I'm glad you are telling people to actually interpret the thought "I will have a lucid dream". I've been teaching some local people lately and instead of telling them to say the words "lucid dream", I tell them to say they will recognize they are dreaming, or they will figure out they are dreaming. Alot of new people cant just say lucid dream as they go to sleep, it wont do them any good if they've never had a lucid and dont know what to expect.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod View Post
      It sounds like a pretty simple tech, I like it. I've never tried it to often to think about lucid dreaming before sleep, because it tends to keep me awake, but maybe I could carefully make them into lucid dreaming thoughts, I think I will simple imagine being in a lucid dream.

      Oh, and malac, I've become pretty good with tactile sensations lately, eh well the main thing I've practiced as of the past week has been visualisation, but it's quite fine tuned, even though not always stable, and not always what I want it to be. I could be wilding in a bit, my plan to do it was to protend to ride a bike, well visualising a path to ride on, and maybe imagine some music.
      I'll PM you later about tactiling

      Quote Originally Posted by LlamaBeanz View Post
      I understand what you are saying Malac.

      But in order to get your subconcious to start "talking" about lucid dreaming, lucid dreaming needs to be in your daily residue. Which boils down to reality checks and dream recall, just like all the other techniques. I just try to keep lucid dreaming my main topic of conversation for the day, and do regular reality checks. By creating memory impressions you can greatly increase your chance to snap into lucidity.

      Furthermore, I'm glad you are telling people to actually interpret the thought "I will have a lucid dream". I've been teaching some local people lately and instead of telling them to say the words "lucid dream", I tell them to say they will recognize they are dreaming, or they will figure out they are dreaming. Alot of new people cant just say lucid dream as they go to sleep, it wont do them any good if they've never had a lucid and dont know what to expect.
      Yea, alot of people think that the mere words are magical that they will be granted a lucid dream. A simple example would be like walking(I think ). A person never says the word "walk" to learn and do it. Instead,they understand the process of it and actually will theirselves to do so. A probably better example is like imagining an apple. Yea, the word "apple" can remind of an apple in your head, but instead of saying it, you have actually imagine the apple itself... Heh, I'm tired right now but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, simple stuff you already know I'm sure
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      Quote Originally Posted by malac View Post
      I'll PM you later about tactiling



      Yea, alot of people think that the mere words are magical that they will be granted a lucid dream. A simple example would be like walking(I think ). A person never says the word "walk" to learn and do it. Instead,they understand the process of it and actually will theirselves to do so. A probably better example is like imagining an apple. Yea, the word "apple" can remind of an apple in your head, but instead of saying it, you have actually imagine the apple itself... Heh, I'm tired right now but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, simple stuff you already know I'm sure
      Sweet, I'd appreciate some new idea's on it

      Yeah I know what you mean with the walking, thats kind of how I had to accept visualizing, kind of like you cannot learn to move your arm by words, or explain it in words.

      Words are literally shortcuts, or alias's which represent the real thing.



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      Hmm. Guess people are taking this lightly. Guess I minds of well make the topic more flashy like the rest huh There was another reason why I decided to post this and that was to see results on other people. If people aren't interested in coming in or read the simple explanation then ohs wells for my experiment.
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      Quote Originally Posted by malac View Post
      Hmm. Guess people are taking this lightly. Guess I minds of well make the topic more flashy like the rest huh There was another reason why I decided to post this and that was to see results on other people. If people aren't interested in coming in or read the simple explanation then ohs wells for my experiment.
      Yeah not alot of people read tutorials compared to those that have "OMFG, 100% successful tech, super easy"

      It'd the sad truth I guess...



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      im going to try this oen tonight, ill tell you if i get anything

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      Looks like this is something I'll do tonight, since I'm currently working on pre-sleep thought manipulation.

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      Using those damned thoughts to help? Good Idea, man!

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      Hmm I think I might give this a shot tonight.
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      I understand exactly what you are saying and I will try it tonight. I will post my results tomorrow. I have a feeling this might really work because I've had something similar work.

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      When I read this I knew exactly what you are talking about because I do it nearly every night, but have been unable to explain to others what I was doing! Great tut.
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